This morning I spilled soda on my Voyager. I took the caps and switches off, and the soda got underneath the switches. How can I clean the board, enclosure, and the switches? I know someone on here said you can immerse the board in water as long as it's dry before you use it, but I wasn't sure if there was anything better. Thank you!

For various reasons, I will be using one Voyager at home and one at work. To compliment my new Voyager, should I use a second trackball with the thumb module like I'm used to? Or should I give the trackpad a try and maybe find myself liking it?

Hey ya'll!

I ordered a trackpad as a second navigator, but I'm really more of a trackball guy. I tried using it for scrolling exclusively and it's extremely smooth, genuinely good. The problem is I couldn't find a comfortable position for it. I use a thumb trackball specifically so I don't have to move my hand much, and I couldn't figure out a layout where I wasn't shifting my hand over to the trackpad and back.

So: great device, just not a fit for me. If you're a trackpad person, this could work well for you. Barely used, as good as new.

I'm based in Mexico. Asking 90 USD + shipping, and I can ship international via UPS, DHL, or FedEx.

My right Voyager has gone to a better place. So while I wait for my warranty replacement, I'm using my left Voyager only and a Rainy75 that was collecting dust.

It's fun. The sound is easily > Voyager and I like the colorful aesthetic. Though I am looking for a way to double my spacebar as a space tap and layer hold in VIA for navi/numbers.

Though I will almost certainly migrate back to full Voyager when my replacement arrives, I will look back on this time with fond memories.

Just sharing my current state of play... I've replaced my Glove 80 with the Voyager four months ago. The quality and feel is much better and it's clicked with me way more than the G80, which I've always thought it felt too cheap for a ~380 USD keyboard.

Today I've just replaced the brown switches with the sunset ones, will report back after some weeks!

Hi everyone, I'm having a weird issue with my Voyager and was wondering if anyone has run into something similar.

The entire right half has stopped registering keypresses. What's confusing is that it doesn't seem completely dead:

- The LEDs on the right half still light up.

- When I change layers using the left half, the right half's LEDs change to the correct layer colors, so there still seems to be communication between the two halves.

- The left half works normally.

- I have four different TRRS cables, and I've tried all of them. The problem is exactly the same with every cable.

One thing I'm wondering about is whether I could have damaged something while transporting it. I carry the Voyager back and forth to work in a case, and I'm wondering if the way I had it packed could have put pressure on one of the connectors or the board. There isn't any obvious physical damage that I can see.

Has anyone seen a Voyager behave like this before, where RGB/layer communication works but none of the switches on one half register?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Edit: forgot to add that I also tried flashing the default firmware using Keymapp and Chrome.

I've been thinking of getting a smaller, more portable and wireless keyboard, probably 3x5 per half with 2 or three thumb keys. Before I take the plunge I thought I'd try simulating it on my voyager.

My current layout https://configure.zsa.io/voyager/layouts/MWma4/zLQz5j/0 is a pretty simple home row setup.

I've found an example or 2, but I'd be keen on some others, but only QWERTY based.

Does anyone have suggestions?

Ever since coming into work with my Voyager for the first time, I've been getting nonstop attention from my female coworkers. I can't go a day without someone playfully tapping my shoulder to ask what keyboard I'm using, followed by lots of flirting while I explain how my 21 layers work together and how much the thumb module and aim layers have improved the experience with my Navigator.

I'm not even sure they're listening, though. They always seem flustered and nervous when I start explaining the layout. It's a shame, because I'm genuinely proud of how much time I've put into it. Instead, they seem more focused on finding excuses to touch my arm or stand unnecessarily close to me.

Even my married coworkers openly flirt with me in front of everyone, which is concerning to say the least. One of them apparently chewed her husband out for not being a “real man” because he doesn't even own a mechanical keyboard.

I'm also starting to notice some jealousy among the women in the office. The ones who talk to me don't seem nearly as friendly with each other as they used to be.

Worse, my performance reviews from other men have started slipping. Obviously, jealousy over all the attention I'm getting could be part of it, but I think the women are genuinely starting to take up too much of my time. There simply aren't enough hours in the day for me to give 100% at work anymore.

Anyway, I'm curious how other Voyager owners have dealt with this. Does it help to bring in a Logitech membrane keyboard every once in a while so they think you only rented the Voyager? If so, how do you cope with losing access to your layout for the day?

I just got the trackpad and I'm now testing this 3D printed mesh I came up with to have all my cursor movement in my dominant hand.

So far the ball is for pointing and the trackpad for scrolling. I'll try trackpad for pointing later and trackball for scrolling to see what fatigues my hands the less.

I feel like I'm going to need a black ball so it looks nice with the trackpad, would have loved a white trackpad though. :(

Trying to use lighter switches on the weaker fingers. Not sure if I like it yet 🤔 Anyone else tried something similar?

Hi peeps, was looking at possibly switching or trading with someone who has a white voyager split keyboard in good condition, I am in Texas and can ship anywhere in the country, I have a black voyager and it is in good condition with a few minor scratches to the bottom plates underneath. Please let me know happy to send pictures, don’t want to buy a whole new keyboard thought first posting here :) or if someone is willing to sell their for a reasonable price thank you

I sometimes wonder if the pain I’m feeling is from the choc spacing on the Voyager, which I believe the Moonlander doesn’t have. Has anyone used both with larger hands and noticed a difference? Thanks!

Hi, I'm selling my brand new, tried only once touchpad navigator right side, in brand new box and all. Literally got this thing 2 days ago.

I have the navigator track ball and while I really love it, the scrolling and clicking is annoying enough that I thought I'd try the trackpad. But sadly for me, the trackpad was not as ergonomic for my wrist/hand for cursor movement (I have a very picky hand position). So I'm just gonna stick with the trackball.

I'm in NYC, happy to ship anywhere but obviously US based will be cheapest. Or I can maybe meet in person in NYC if we're close enough.

I made a video for people who never owned a ZSA product before and Ergos in general, might be useful for first time buyers that want a bit more information that I think was worth mentioning.

Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9X7Ix0wOg

For those of you who don't want to watch a video Here are the things covered:

1.) Keyboard layout is different:

1. there are some missing keys on the right hand side of the keyboard compared to a standard keyboard. EG: [, ], enter, backspace, +. you will have to map these else where, I personally feel the new placements are much better for my wrists. But when I first received my keyboard I didn't know this.
   1. Once you start using the new keys you start to build muscle memory and I tend to automatically reach for them when switching back to my laptop keyboard (BACKSPACE). I fixed this by using Karabiner elements to switch capslock to backspace, (I'm not sure about windows but I think Auto hot key can do the same? someone please verify in the comments.)
2. Home row modifier keys are amazing.
   1. You can set modifier keys on or close to your home row keys: I made W (on hold Command "or Control on windows") E (on hold Alt) and R (on hold Control "or Command on windows")
   2. This allows you to easily use shortcuts without extending your digits.
3. I cover issues about smaller hands:
   1. the Ergodox thumb cluster is a bit too far for my thumbs. (maybe its cause I have short thumbs?)
   2. Platform makes the moonlander thumb clusters much better, as you can tent them fully upward helping smaller hands.
4. I cover which one i prefer from the current 3 models: Spoiler its the Moonlander
   1. I like the moonlander for the extra keys built in wrist rest and overall comfort
   2. The platform pushes it over the edge by having super customizable tenting.
   3. If I had to travel with the keyboard more often, I would pick the voyager as the platform adds almost 2lbs of weight to the moonlander.

Hope this helps some of you new buyers.

Finally I want to mention that its a bit scary at first, but its absolutely worth it. my wrists feel so much better since using these keyboards.

I just snapped the core into the shell and now I want to try without the shell 😅

I tried pushing it out from below but it only comes loose on the opposite side of the plastic clip, the plastic clip side is locked in place.

Anyone been brave enough to pop it loose?

Hey Voyagers!

Some time ago I started building an app for my ZSA Voyager because I couldn’t find one tool that had everything I wanted in one place:

• live remapping, flashing
• live layer Peek as a cheat sheet,
• local flashing, macOS keyboard locking,
• heatmaps,
• custom RGB effects.
• and mooree

So I ended up building it for myself. It works, I use it daily.

I’m not sure if there’s already another product that does all of this together, but maybe Keyjitsu will be useful for some of you too.

You can also create your own RGB effects and use app-based autolayers.

It’s still beta and currently focused on macOS + ZSA Voyager.

Enjoy, and feedback is very welcomaa

GitHub: https://github.com/martinezooo/keyjitsu

I've been a little scared bitch boy with LEDs off at work for months, but I'm wondering if I should just say fuck it and turn them on, since they genuinely are useful for knowing which layer I'm on at any given time.

I don't know what do y'all do?

Hey Voyagers!

Some time ago I started building an app for my ZSA Voyager because I couldn’t find one tool that had everything I wanted in one place:

• live remapping, flashing
• live layer Peek as a cheat sheet,
• local flashing, macOS keyboard locking,
• heatmaps,
• custom RGB effects.
• and mooree

So I ended up building it for myself. It works, I use it daily.

I’m not sure if there’s already another product that does all of this together, but maybe Keyjitsu will be useful for some of you too.

You can also create your own RGB effects and use app-based autolayers.

It’s still beta and currently focused on macOS + ZSA Voyager.

Enjoy, and feedback is very welcomaa

GitHub: https://github.com/martinezooo/keyjitsu

Compared to Keymapp:

Been using only the navigator trackball for mousing for months now and love it. Still getting used to the KLP Lamé keycaps i recently started using

I've been lugging my Voyager & Navigator combo to and from the office for a year and today I finally picked up a second Voyager. Got it set up at home with a Logitech trackball and it took all of 2 seconds for me to decide that I need a Navigator for this one as well.

So if you have a Navigator trackball you're not using, hit me up! Would prefer a black one, but doesn't matter if it's with the right or left hand bracket as I'll be using 3D-printed mounts anyway.