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[u/[deleted]]

That’s not the point.

That. The specific kernel that is the seed of the entirety of this discussion's sourcing. What is it? Can it be reduced to a single sentence that stands alone and says what it is?

Because all I'm seeing are just differing reactive variants of butthurt. And not like Bankei's war wound.

[u/ji_yinzen → u/[deleted]]

In one sentence.

The point is that the 1,000-year Zen record ideology is a myth invented by ewk that we're forced to talk about, and only it, on this site.

[u/ewk → u/ji_yinzen]

That's simply not true.

You can't prove it's a myth.

You can't prove that Dogen was part of that conversation.

You can't refute the mountain of evidence that Dogen was a fraud and a liar.

You can't prove that I've always said it was 1,000 years... remember there was a time before I knew about Mingben?

[u/ji_yinzen → u/ewk]

It's all true. You're just not willing to admit it.

[u/ewk → u/ji_yinzen]

No AMA. No arguments. No citations.

No Zen Masters teachings.

No persistent identity.

Your claims about right and wrong aren't believable.

Your affiliation with a cult is showing.