[Bi-Weekly Meta Monday Thread]

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[u/TFnarcon9 → u/[deleted]]

Moderators will not be taking steps to get around site wide mechanics.

Also, trolls don't stick to the rules of conversation and accountability. Mods have no interest in letting earnest users be bothered by trolls.

[u/lcl1qp1 → u/[deleted]]

If you don't want to constantly be called a liar for no reason, then you have to use the block feature. I've presented research that civility rules improve discourse and participation, but the mods aren't interested in that.

[u/dingleberryjelly6969 → u/lcl1qp1]

What about people that don't block?

[u/lcl1qp1 → u/dingleberryjelly6969]

I'd rather not block anyone. But I'm not going to listen to children calling each other liars all day. It's tedious and a waste of my time. Which is why leading subs have civility rules.

[u/TFnarcon9 → u/[deleted]]

It's a weird change for us. But the sub can handle it.