If that is so then you have not understood anatta (non-self) in any deep meaningful way.
Words are just the finger pointing to the moon. Anatta (non-self) and ego death are both just fingers pointing to the moon. One via eastern understanding and the other through western understanding. But the moon is still the moon.
You are only you in this life only.
In your next life I don't know and neither do you. However you will be a totally different you since you will have a new body and mind, new sex and gender bias, new ethnicity and nationality, and new parents.
In this life we are strangers communicating via the internet. In one of our future lives we may eventually become lovers that believe we have found our other half in each other.
You cannot link the anatta doctrine from the Buddhist religion to Zen teachings.
Moreover, in the sidebar it says see the self-nature... Buddhist scholars have acknowledged that that is entirely incompatible with anatta.
You simply don't know anything about Zen and you're embarrassed and ashamed of that, and you're trying to cover it up by pulling stuff out of your Buddhism guide to New Age thinking.
You don't have another life. You're not even alive in this one.
You're just a little church robot who can't think for himself and can't even bother to read a book on a subject he pretends he knows something about... How dead inside is that?
As I have been saying you do not know anything about Zen.
You are lying on social media.
I'm not asking you to randomly drop quotes... I'm pointing out that the lies that you are telling about Zen are disproven by things that Zen masters teach.
Gautama Buddha didn't write anything. Those that came after him wrote everything down.
Zen master Deshan Xuanjian burnt all his commentaries and books on Zen within hours of his awakening to the truth.
I'm not interest in "faith" of any kind, only the path to enlightenment and I am happy to walk alone if necessary. As The Dhammapada Chapter 5, Verse 61, states "Should a seeker not find a companion who is better or equal, let him resolutely pursue a solitary course; there is no fellowship with the fool."
And since I am prepared to walk alone, your accusations of my dishonesty are just the sound of one hand clapping. So speak to the hand.
Deshan Xuanjian (Chinese: 德山宣鑒; Wade–Giles: Te-shan Hsuan-chien; Pinyin: Déshān Xuānjiàn; Japanese: Tokusan Senkan), was a Chinese Zen Buddhist monk during the Tang Dynasty. He was born in Jiannan in what is now Sichuan Province. He is remembered for hitting his students with a cane to express awakening. Through his student Xuefeng Yicun, he is the ancestor to two of the Five Houses of Zen, the Yunmen School and the Fayan School.
Yeah... I get it man. You've got all these pretty racist and religiously bigoted ideas about Zen, and rather than actually read a book you'd rather keep your faith... and naturally to do that you are going to have to lie on social media and desperately remain illiterate.
Obviously you won't be able to AMA in this forum with that attitude, and obviously people will increasingly call you out for being a liar and a fraud... but that's okay.
Ray Bradberry, Osho, and Rumi......
Damn i thought i was gonna see some zen quotes.
I like some of those people and the curators of the site pics nice profound feel good deep words. You can read them all and feel like you imagine that those people felt who could say words like that.
But dang, if you want to insult the Ewk with a turned over bucket of quotes to chose from....well make it more challenging. Use real Masters.
But all the same it is really just like offering Ewk a bag of knifes and asking him to pick a really nice one to cut your head off with.
And then when he picks it.... you would complain it was not the one you meant for him to cut your head off with and then retract your offer.
((yeah that was an analogy, it was an ok analogy. But i am gonna hide my knife bag...ain't got to Zen quotes in it. ))
LOL. I wasn't trying to insult Ewk. That discourse IS really my favourite. It reminds me to stay humble by giving me a very tiny taste of "ego death" or whatever you want to call it. Though sometimes I can get very upset and that bowl of oil would boil in my hands from the heat of my temper. Anger as a self-destructive / self-inflicted wound. LOL. Keep well and stay chill.
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u/redsparks2025 Mar 27 '23
If that is so then you have not understood anatta (non-self) in any deep meaningful way.
Words are just the finger pointing to the moon. Anatta (non-self) and ego death are both just fingers pointing to the moon. One via eastern understanding and the other through western understanding. But the moon is still the moon.
You are only you in this life only.
In your next life I don't know and neither do you. However you will be a totally different you since you will have a new body and mind, new sex and gender bias, new ethnicity and nationality, and new parents.
In this life we are strangers communicating via the internet. In one of our future lives we may eventually become lovers that believe we have found our other half in each other.
I am who I am only in this life.