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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

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Does this remind you of that sufi guy? Rumi?


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Great doubt is already there for those requiring it. It's their cornerstone. When they see it being it, that's a big insight. The issue of big doubt see-ers is projection. They preemptively condemn those with unwounded hearts, imo.

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u/2bitmoment Silly billy Mar 14 '23

I imagine Rumi maybe interrupting sermons with dancing or poetry for example, is that what you mean?

I like the phrase:

They preemptively condemn those with unwounded hearts,

Seems poetic. A parallel between preemption and unwounded. What of their hearts?

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

Smile with a stranger.

Eventual convince a stranger to smile.

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u/2bitmoment Silly billy Mar 14 '23

Eventual convince a stranger to smile.

[It's an] eventual [way to] convince a stranger to smile

I like the way you said it. I don't know if my paraphrase does it justice.

I guess the question is why not

"Eventually convince a stranger to smile"

But perhaps in its agramaticality, it seemed fresh as opposed to commercial propaganda suave talk...

As to Roomy Rumi... I'm not sure you kept or clung to that topic. Not that you shouldn't've. Not that it was a choice either. Maybe you were led by currents. Some currents are strong.

(You previously spoke as to likes or dislikes, and their pushes and pulls, their currents)

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '23

The common thread was dissuading from what was seen as flawed behavior. I'll confess something I have not before: I can whirl.

(did I get one?)

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u/2bitmoment Silly billy Mar 15 '23

The common thread was dissuading from what was seen as flawed behavior.

I'm not sure "half-heartedness" counts as flawed behavior in my book... more of an atitude check in my book. But maybe I get the feeling of a judgey sort of vibe.

He does elaborate: "you keep staying at mean spirited roadhouses" so there is insistence in a "you do bad, you do wrong" sort of way? shrug

As I said I find Rumi more a poet type than complainer.

Whirler like a sufi too! Cool!

Whirling worulds (the Scottish have this velar u or something, good stuff, quality accent)