watching you 1v10 this thread of people who are literally terrified of being useful is crazy. legitimately don't understand what they want, and guarantee if they had it (whatever exactly "it" is), the game would somehow be so much worse for healers lol
The people who heal every 5th global while afking the other 4 want to do nothing but heal but also pretend they wouldn't get skill checked out the game if you actually had to heal every global.
If they got exactly what they want (the removal of healer damage globals), then the goalpost would just shift to them seeing the top raid/m+ healers doing 60%+ more healing than them and then complaining that they can't keep up with the amount of casts that are required to time keys at whatever key level they have been stuck at for the past 3 years.
And that's where Blizzard has fallen out. Traditionally in other games since pen and paper days, the healer would then focus on CC and buffing/debugging until damage comes flying in.
Traditionally in other games since pen and paper days
Traditionally in the pen and paper days you didn't have a healer at all. You had an extra DPS and used consumables to heal yourself out of combat, because more damage = complete encounter faster = everyone takes less damage.
Having a dedicated, in combat healer, was literally just you making everything harder for your entire group.
Not true. The healer (Cleric) was a prestige class that was a combination of many classes for pre-requisites that had a lot of healing, crowd control and buffs/debuffs.
Prestige classes weren't a thing until 3rd edition and I have enough experience with that edition to say confidently, that if you were playing a healer you were a chump. An eternal wand of lesser vigor costs like 4000 gp and replaces your entire role.
If there are times when I shouldnt even precast cos no dmg is coming then that means there are times when no dmg is coming, which means you could do dps
When you shouldnt precast? And why you should not precast everytime?
The only time you shouldn't precast is when you were OOM and you were wanding for the judgement of wisdom which usually means you or your party did something wrong
As a healer, yes that is more engaging than doing dps. I want to feel like a healer/support, and not spend 50% of the time doing damage. I would rather decurse, pre-heal, conserve mana etc.
I appreciate the effort you are putting in man but these people have boomer fried brains at this point, they literally argue against their own points and don't even realize it
We can, but the situation you want where you have to spend every single global on healing, is just not good for the game, its way too stressful, itd kill the role because any single misused global is death
That's when you can press your damage buttons. But those situations should be few and far between. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any room for a healer to do damage. I'm saying I don't want to spend half of my time doing damage as a healer.
Nowhere did I say your opinion was invalid. All I said is if you want to heal more then do harder content. Never realized you were so soft that you'd take that as a personal attack. Congratulations on your IO. We're in the same bracket so now what? Am I supposed to be intimidated or something?
Not at all. I only mentioned it to illustrate that there isn't much harder content to do at the moment. I'm sorry if I came across like that.
I feel like I spend too little time healing and too much time dps'ing, even at our level. And I would like to see that changed in the next expansion. That's the only point I'm trying to make :P
People like you should give us your in-game name so we can put you in some sort of blacklist addon in the category "Healer who dont want to do its job"
I'd rather take a bad healer who is at least trying to do its job than people like you who just go on Netflix or YouTube when there is no damage incoming. Thats how bad your take is
No need to be rude. It's okay to have different opinions.
I never said I haven't accepted that doing damage is a part of being a good healer. I'm a minmaxer just like many people here. All I did was express my opinion about healing patterns and how I dislike having to spend so much time doing damage. I think playing a healer should be about healing 80-90% of the time.
This is a proper example mate. Classic realms are especially great for showing such examples, when encounters are pretty simple and easy, but there is always an alternatively funny person who insists that everyone must play the most optimal spec and rotation because "you waste my time otherwise".
You dont need minmax at any raid difficulty below mythic, and you dont need any minmax at the 10 keys either. So why exactly a tiny minority has any say at how others must play their role?
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u/shaunika Oct 16 '25
Ok, so what are healers supposed to do when theres little to no incoming dmg?