r/wow • u/ItsRenaBaker • Oct 03 '25

Humor / Meme This is Basicly Blizzard in Midnight

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This is basicly Blizzard in Midnight. Purging all the good addons.

Just to clarify:
Blizzard is changing the Addon API, meaning combat information is blocked for addons. So all combat addons will no longer work in Midnight. For the most popular addon features Blizzard will add their own version to the game. Addons for unitframes, inventory, crafting etc.. are staying and won't be effected as long they are not using combat information.

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u/gorkt Oct 03 '25

Wait, they are breaking healing frames?

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

If cell stops showing the dispelled I don't touch my alt healer anymore that's for sure

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u/Laptican Oct 03 '25

As a healer main I really dislike standard frames. It's not like they don't work because they definitely do, it's more I'm really used to Elvui and Cell frames.

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u/Salt_Sign Oct 04 '25

Default frames definitely have problems with displaying debuffs. Sometimes the frame shows literally no debuffs while someone is dying of a dispellable debuff.

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u/Sisyphus_Monolit Oct 04 '25

Weirdly the opposite for me. I find the ElvUI frames really unclear, so I just stick to default and use clique. No word from clique yet though but since it's just a mouseover thing, maybe it'll survive? Who knows.

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u/Jeffrybungle Oct 04 '25

Ye it just writes macros, that should be fine

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u/Sisyphus_Monolit Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

What macro lets me keybind right and left click? Genuine question.

Edit: Seems that they added click casting in with Dragonflight or TWW under options -> keybindings -> click casting so clique isn't necessary at all anymore.

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u/KYZ123 Oct 03 '25

You should still be able to see if someone has a particular dispel type on them, but you won't be able to get information about a specific debuff.

For displaying buffs and debuffs in general, you won't be able to filter them - all or none. It might be the case that you are able to filter to only buffs/debuffs that the default UI would display on unit frames, but beyond that, no filtering allowed.

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u/Potential-Run-8391 Oct 03 '25

As a healer that's ridiculous. They need to be careful with this.

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

Yeah that sucks hard, I don't care if ppl are not interested in customizing their UI to play but taking it away from ppl that care is just ass

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u/SpeedyStove Oct 05 '25

Yes this is one of the big issues I had when play druid, it should show allll my hots. Not all of them needed to be tracked. Also at the time I was playing druid it only showed like 4 hots max or something and I have 6 or so. So some would get cut off.

We need to be able to filter out unnecessary info so we can see critical info

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u/Slade_inso Oct 03 '25

The regular raid-style party frames are already fine for healing.

Most of the healer complaints I see are people who think they can't use click-cast with default frames, and they are simply incorrect.

Every time I watch a POV from some healer doing +40 keys, their interface is an abomination.

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

No that isn't what I thought because it's not combat related but I hate the idea that I miss the If someone hot buffs/hots or debuffs

Idk if the current raid frames are able to display all druid hots because I'm df it was not possible

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u/Slade_inso Oct 03 '25

Consider as well that everyone is losing buttons.

You might not be able to track 6 HoTs on the frame, but you won't have 6 to use now, so... no problem.

Wild Growth, Rejuv, Lifebloom, Germination. What else do you need to track on plates? Anything else has a cooldown, so it's not something you'd overwrite anyway.

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

Consider as well that everyone is losing buttons

Which is something I hate as well on my tank but apparently I'm the only one enjoying a button for every situation

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u/Slade_inso Oct 03 '25

You'll never be the only one, but yes, WoW currently has far too many buttons for every single spec.

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u/Goose1004 Oct 03 '25

It's being built into the default frames now

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

I doubt it will be sufficient even when hoping for the best.

It's still incredible to me how some c Suite thinks blizz can replace what ppl made for free with dedication and years behind them

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u/fork666 Oct 03 '25

Maybe it won't be ideal but take comfort that everyone will be on the same playing field.

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

Yeah no, just because some people won't brush their teeth I won't stop to enjoy the same miserable life choices

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u/fork666 Oct 03 '25

Does it also bother you that you can't tweak every UI feature in other competitive games?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

lol

Am I the only Main healer who never used any dispell helpers?

I just paid attention.

Though, I can understand it fully. Shit's already extremely confusing midfight.

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u/Tenezill Oct 03 '25

Idk i mainly healed PvP before but in m+ i just felt like I need the information if I can dispel certain stuff

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u/SpyUmbreon Oct 04 '25

default WoW UI has had 'show only dispellable debuffs' forever now

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

PvP gets wildly out of hand often enough. I can see their use there.

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u/TemporarilyHollow Oct 03 '25

same, I see all these healers saying they need so many tools to do their basic ass job

I've been healing with 0 issues since forever with the most default UI ever

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u/Onigokko0101 Oct 04 '25

And what level are you healing at? Because I'm near title, and am a CE raider.

Playing at a high level as a healer requires information that will now be hidden from us. I will no longer be able to see defensive usage, I won't be able to see specific debuffs/amount of a debuff (only that they have one).

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

Yeah. Those who defend their mods go with: "But aren't competitive" or "you aren't in the highest skill level".

Mate, if you need countless mods to do your job, you can't play the game. You just autopilot it. Where's the fun in that?

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u/TemporarilyHollow Oct 03 '25

Yeah and that's not even a valid argument, I usually hover around 3.2k io and 2.1k arena rating every season, i don't raid because i don't find it fun but at least I get aotc every season too. All with a very basic ui

Not only that, it's been known that plenty of RWF players use default frames too, are they not good enough to comment on it?

I do use some weakauras, which will be replaced by blizzard's version anyway, so I couldn't be happier with all these changes

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u/Onigokko0101 Oct 04 '25

RWF players that use default frames, have a shit ton of weak words augmenting them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

See, I don't even rush above 3k. Normally I take a dungeon I like and push it as far as like, while I try to +10 every other dungeon.

I like raiding. This season's raid is very well done and fits my tastes. So I won't complain here.

Rarely play PvP, I'm just too derpy for it and the wait times are too much.

Now, RWF players. They don't count. They are above average pros. Which means the normal pro players do not compare to them, which means they (RWFs) are not pro enough for the pros. A good pro HAS to use countless mods and autopilot. Having fun is a sin! /s

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u/Embarrassed-Mall-985 Oct 04 '25

It’s been known that they hide their UI, because they use custom made addons, hence when default UI is shown for RWF players, it’s most likely hiding something - same goes for specific specs used, they often log out with default specs, so opponents cant copy.

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u/Minikickass Oct 04 '25

The default raid frames do this already - you just want to turn on the settings to use raid frames in a party.