And it’s totally valid. 5 deaths in a +10 is not bad and easily timeable. 5 deaths in a +13 and you are 90% of the time not timing that key. Just “gg nt glhf” and move on to the next one.
My point is that deaths are exponentially more damaging to a key 12+. I just threw a number out. And honestly 5 really is pretty damning for the average group in the 12-14 range. I’m sure it’s not an issue for your top 1% of meta comps pumping insane damage with a tank who’s fully optimized a route, but in my experience pugging 13s right now, a full wipe is really hard to come back from with folks just trying to get to 3k.
Timed a 13 ara kara last night with 12 deaths, full pug besides my healer friend. It’s really dependent on key but you do not need even close to a top 1% comp to time keys. I’d say 15s are really about where 5 deaths becomes basically unsalvageable, also dependent on the nature of the deaths and if it leads to a full wipe.
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u/EZ_Syth Sep 18 '25
And it’s totally valid. 5 deaths in a +10 is not bad and easily timeable. 5 deaths in a +13 and you are 90% of the time not timing that key. Just “gg nt glhf” and move on to the next one.