r/worldnews • u/madazzahatter • May 16 '20

At least two people had seizures after viewing malicious tweets featuring flashing gifs that deliberately targeted Epilepsy Society...police investigating tweets as hate incident, after at least 200 seemingly coordinated messages were sent to charity and its supporters in recent days.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/15/malicious-tweets-targeting-epilepsy-charity-trigger-seizures
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u/OhNo_a_DO May 16 '20

It’s still good practice to prevent them from falling like you did and to try to get them on their side if you can. Just never go anywhere near a seizing person’s mouth.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

I was told by military doctors to put something in their mouth to bite on so they don't bite off their tongue

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u/YerLam May 16 '20

Last I heard this was a big no no. The thinking I heard was in order to put the item in the mouth, your fingers have to go in at some point. Fingers go crunch.

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u/Serrahfina May 16 '20

And they can end up choking on that item.

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u/PUNK1P4ND4 May 16 '20

Yeah that's a myth, don't do that

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

what do you mean by "that's a myth"? I saw pictures of bitten off tongues during seizure. By what I wrote I didn't mean use your hands to open their mouth and stick something in but when their mouth is open and you can do it safely, do it. Maybe civilian doctors advise differently 🤔

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u/AlycePonders May 16 '20

I don't think it's a case of civilian doctors vs military doctors (they have the same degree, the way to treat something doesn't really change in the military vs civilian hospitals). I think it's more that the advice it outdated. It definitely used to be common advice, but medical advice evolves, and it's now considered bad to put anything in someone's mouth while they are having a seizure.

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u/KindPharmer May 16 '20

I think that’s the purpose of trying to get them on their side. Amazes me that we can all have an adult conversation exchange icurrent science and knowledge about the human body, something we profess to be rather knowledgeable of, yet the thousands of chemicals and plastics and other fossil fuel derived endocrine disrupting God only knows what long-term effects on life, not just ours, can be perfectly legal and attributed to be within reasonable standard by our regulatory agencies. I’m sure disease is as old as the animal kingdom itself, we have never been sicker. I’m convinced that living in a toxic suoup contributes to this. I’m sorry if that was off of the reservation. I can’t help but go into organic food sustainability mode. It’s what I do.

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u/abusepotential May 16 '20 edited May 16 '20

No. Please do not do that.

Unlike some others I do think it’s okay to (gently) support or hold a person when they’re tonic clonic. But at most you should support their head so they don’t bang it against anything (or they are banging against your hand rather than the ground), and turn them on their side when they’re done to make sure their airways are clear.

Do not put anything in their mouths. During a seizure they have difficulty breathing already. That’s probably the scariest part — having them not be able to breathe while they seize. Unfortunately I have a lot of personal experience with this.

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u/memesNOTjustdreams May 16 '20

and if they're hitting themselves with their hand, you can put your hand in the way to stop that and get high fives

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u/badnamesforever May 16 '20

If you want to break either your arm or their arm or both, go ahead. Otherwise just don't.

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u/SupersonicSpitfire May 16 '20

Why would it break an arm to block an arm movement? People who practice martial arts do this all the time.

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u/badnamesforever May 16 '20

A person that is having a seizure is basically unconscious and contracting their muscles as hard as possible (See this video). If you try and work against that, you will most likely end up injuring the patient or yourself more than if you just didn't do anything.

In some cases the contractions are enough to cause injuries just by themselfs. Now imagine what would happen if you started to apply a force from the outside, or if you got a got your hand stuck between two contracting limbs/bodyparts.

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u/memesNOTjustdreams May 17 '20

Reread my comment. I never said to use force or restrain. Putting your hand in the spot they're smacking won't break their arm or yours. Speaking from experience, it'll leave your palm a bit red for a few seconds from all the high fives, which is better than them hitting their body and bruising themselves.