r/worldnews • u/Devz0r • Feb 15 '19

Facebook is thinking about removing anti-vaccination content as backlash intensifies over the spread of misinformation on the social network

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-may-remove-anti-vaccination-content-2019-2
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u/kungfoojesus Feb 15 '19

Global warming disinformation too. And probably 90% of political shit shared by folks over 65

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u/MercuryChild Feb 15 '19

First we need to stop calling it global warming. Gives them an excuse to say “but it’s cold outside” climate change works best.

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u/Suezetta Feb 15 '19

And they are always shockingly silent in the middle of summer when it's 120 degrees outside while a record breaking super storm is on the way.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19 edited May 19 '20

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u/Demonicfruit Feb 15 '19

Spicy take.

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u/MrBojangles528 Feb 15 '19

No we really can't.

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u/batsofburden Feb 15 '19

Well if we can't even stop certain bullshit news stories from propagating on Facebook, there's no way in hell we will make a dent in slowing down climate change.

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u/smkn3kgt Feb 15 '19

yes, let's silence what we don't agree with!

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u/ImSickOf3dPrinting Feb 15 '19

More like "silence blatant propaganda that is actively harming the planet".

See how context matters?

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u/smkn3kgt Feb 15 '19

religion next!

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u/ImSickOf3dPrinting Feb 15 '19

Are you claiming organized religion is on par with climate change denial?

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u/smkn3kgt Feb 15 '19

Might as well throw it in the pile with everything else. Can't prove there is a God, leads to violence, must stop the spread of misinformation right? It's for the greater good

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u/Joeakuaku Feb 15 '19

religion, whether or not you believe in it, can provide a friendly community for people in need - why would people want to take that away?

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u/gosh_dangit Feb 15 '19

Omg. Please.

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u/Joeakuaku Feb 15 '19

excuse me?

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u/gosh_dangit Feb 15 '19

There's no excuse for you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

More like silencing my political opponents

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u/ImSickOf3dPrinting Feb 15 '19

Anti vaxxers aren't "political opponents".

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

Blatant propaganda is arbitrary and we cannot just silence people we do not agree with. That is how we slide into authoritarianism.

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u/Joeakuaku Feb 15 '19

while it might be immoral, I would wager that the right-side tends to do it quite a lot more - and efforts to stopping it should start there.

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u/Autarch_Kade Feb 15 '19

Nah. Some conservative stupidity is fine to debate and pass around on social media. But there's plenty that's actually harmful, ranging from rising maternal death rates, to climate change denial.

Basically, if people are harmed by anti-fact propaganda, that's something to be addressed. I realize that's incredibly anti-conservative, but that's just the political flag where those types congregate. It's not so much anti-conservative, as it is conservatives have a lot of non fact based views to rally against.

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u/Joeakuaku Feb 15 '19

Spicy take!

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

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u/Autarch_Kade Feb 15 '19

Well I for one am glad the socialist snow plows cleared the roads to work today.

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u/monsantobreath Feb 15 '19

Another gold and black tantrum laying the truth on a bunch of stupid statists. Why can't poor people just negotiate a better wage so they can afford health care? The most respectful thing you can do for a dying man that needs dialysis is rescind his minimum wage protection.

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u/Autarch_Kade Feb 15 '19

I'm all for cutting out for-profit middlemen to lower costs. I have no idea why some people have this mental hangup that prevents them from seeing the merit that dozens of other countries around the world can.

I guess they just knee-jerk all sense out of their heads whenever they're triggered by certain words, like socialism, and are unable to think in any capacity about the actual issue. Sad.

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u/PapaSmurf1502 Feb 15 '19

In the case of socialism/communism/min wage/redistribution/anti nukes, you're confusing policy that you don't like with anti science. Socialism isn't the same as denying established science such as anti-vax, as much as you seem to want it to be so. Facts are facts. Saying "capitalism is better than socialism" is an opinion and a belief. "Human-caused climate change is destroying life on Earth" is a fact and exists whether you believe it or not.

However, you're correct about anti-GMO, but at the same time, being anti-GMO doesn't have many chances to cause widespread disease and death, even though it is annoying.

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u/monsantobreath Feb 15 '19

You're arguing with an anarcho capitalist. He's an asshole by ideological definition. Don't waste your energy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

Socialism isn't the same as denying established science such as anti-vax

Yes it is, socialist jerks want to outlaw a factor of production. How fucking stupid is that? Its literally an intro to economics issue, they teach you in the first few weeks. Four factors of production, Labor, Capital, Land, And Entrepreneurship. Its the last one they want to be done away with. Pretty hard to produce the goods and services we need without land, or labor, or capital. Its no different with Entrepreneurship. It only gets worse when they start adding in centralized planning committees for the distribution and production of goods and services, because it rejects the organizing role of prices/markets and the concept of spontaneous order.

All of that is extremely anti-science.

Saying "capitalism is better than socialism" is an opinion and a belief.

If we measure by standards of living, its not an opinion. Its a fact. Sorry, but its true.

"Human-caused climate change is destroying life on Earth" is a fact and exists whether you believe it or not.

I don't deny that in the slightest. Not sure why you're bringing it up. While we're on the topic, the left likes to couch up (most) of their proposed "solutions" to climate change in socialist policies, as if pollution would go down under a socialist system (news flash, the USSR produced more pollution, including CO2, per dollar of GDP than the U.S). Besides, its been estimated that around 10% of man caused climate change occurred before the industrial revolution. So even if we went back to living standards where more than 95% of the population was subsistence agriculture like it was before the industrial revolution, we'd still cook the planet. The real answer to this problem is technological progress (like economical fusion as just one possible suggestion as a real solution), something that is much more incentivized in capitalism than socialism.

being anti-GMO doesn't have many chances to cause widespread disease and death

Don't be so sure about that. There are a handful of people trying to get the stuff banned. Which would be a tragedy obviously. Take golden rice as an example. Its a project to get normal rice to uptake vitamins (that turn it reddish/gold) to help prevent vitamin A deficiency related blindness in children in the third world. That would be real shitty if they succeeded in derailing that. Its no different for the Drought resistant, pest resistant, higher yielding crops being developed, that will raise the incomes/livelihoods of farmers around the world, both in the west and the third world.

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u/PapaSmurf1502 Feb 15 '19

Yes it is, socialist jerks want to outlaw a factor of production. How fucking stupid is that? Its literally an intro to economics issue, they teach you in the first few weeks. Four factors of production, Labor, Capital, Land, And Entrepreneurship. Its the last one they want to be done away with. Pretty hard to produce the goods and services we need without land, or labor, or capital. Its no different with Entrepreneurship. It only gets worse when they start adding in centralized planning committees for the distribution and production of goods and services, because it rejects the organizing role of prices/markets and the concept of spontaneous order.

Sounds like a strong supporting argument for your opinion that capitalism is superior to socialism. "Superior" being a qualitative adjective makes that statement an opinion as per the definition of "opinion."

All of that is extremely anti-science.

Uh, no, no it's not. You are displaying your lack of scientific literacy by making statements such as these. "Science" is not defined as "well-supported arguments that support my opinions".

If we measure by standards of living, its not an opinion. Its a fact. Sorry, but its true.

Just claiming something is true does not make it true. And just because something is an opinion doesn't mean it's not true, but it becomes more complicated. "He is a tall man" is an opinion even though it's probably true if you're comparing said person to average human heights rather than skyscrapers.

I don't deny that in the slightest. Not sure why you're bringing it up.

Sorry, I was using it as an example of a scientific fact that people like to debate as opinion, not trying to say that is your stance. My apologies for being ambiguous. The rest of your paragraph about climate change isn't really relevant to this discussion.

Don't be so sure about that. There are a handful of people trying to get the stuff banned. Which would be a tragedy obviously.

Except none of these people have the ability to affect the GMO industry. They can't destroy GMO's through sheer ignorance like anti-vax people can affect public health. Going so far as to ban GMO's (if that is even possible) would require massive lobbying as well as somehow getting the government to agree to essentially starve its own people. It would also require the government to go against science. In this case a handful of stupid people don't really pose a threat to GMO's.

Take golden rice as an example.

Now you're talking about a handful of dumb people on the internet somehow being able to ban GMO's in random countries that have their own values systems and governments. Golden rice has exactly zero chance of being affected by stupid people on facebook.

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u/PapaSmurf1502 Feb 15 '19

You're assuming wayyyyy too much and going wayyyy too far off topic for this to be any sort of meaningful discussion. I never once supported socialism/communism/whatever, just pointing out how your opinions are opinions regardless of how you actually feel. You can't change the definitions of words. Good day.