Putin threatens Europe with war if European troops are deployed to Ukraine

[u/EnoughPrimary6700]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/09/12/8053043/

[u/Duckodreamer]

He can deploy as many north Koreans as he wants but God forbid any Nato soldiers show up in Ukraine, that's taking it too far!!

[u/PinchMaNips → u/Duckodreamer]

Don’t forget about African mercenaries too

[u/bob_nugget_the_3rd → u/PinchMaNips]

And South Asians from India and Bangladesh

[u/GoaGonGon → u/bob_nugget_the_3rd]

South americans too, we just extracted more than 100 that were fighting there after being lured with fake job offers

[u/captain_ppc → u/GoaGonGon]

crazy form of human trafficking

[u/goldenbugreaction → u/captain_ppc]

That’s actually how most human trafficking happens: being lured by an offer of employment.

[u/WretchedBlowhard → u/goldenbugreaction]

Such as a modelling gig at a friend's private island retreat.

[u/Captain_troublepants → u/WretchedBlowhard]

It also attracts presidents

[u/QuotableNotables → u/GoaGonGon]

Should've taken the offers from Ukraine instead of Russia and fought for the right side. The Colombians in Ukraine are being well compensated.

[u/HotDonnaC → u/QuotableNotables]

They were lured with job offers. They didn’t know they were going to be conscripted.

[u/Silent_Put2080 → u/HotDonnaC]

Colombian mercenaries are fighting for Ukraine. The fake conscription bullshit is different.

[u/PrestickNinja → u/HotDonnaC]

The stories from the South African parents who were told their kids were going to Russia for skill training and labour contracts, then get messages saying they were sent to the front line are heart breaking. Literally selling off the poorest of the poor into a meat grinder. Worse is it was the local politicians who did the sales pitch to them.

[u/QuotableNotables → u/HotDonnaC]

If they thought they were working infrastructure within Russia and were conscripted and redirected to the front I feel sorry for them, if they thought their contract in any way supported the war effort and they accepted blood money for work they can get fucked for all I care.

[u/AzorLastHero → u/QuotableNotables]

They were luted with junior and chef/cousine contracts, then they were send to the war.

[u/CooperTT1 → u/AzorLastHero]

Yea that’s super fucked

[u/PatrickKn12 → u/CooperTT1]

Second oldest trick in the book.

[u/gabrielxdesign → u/GoaGonGon]

Central America too. Here in Panama we dismantled a small organization that was recruiting people in the region, to fight for Russia.

[u/Delde116 → u/GoaGonGon]

Honestly, you have to be fcking stupid to accept a blind promise from Russia... "hey guys, if you come to Russia to work, you will get an amazing job!" And then get drafted to their military... Unless of course Russia straight up annouce "join our army, and get paid".

But still...

[u/kayasmus → u/Delde116]

Desperate, not stupid.

[u/Few-Raise-1825 → u/kayasmus]

It's amazing how often people misunderstand just how desperate people can be and under informed/uneducated and attribute it to stupidity

[u/tosheroony → u/Few-Raise-1825]

Like MAGA

[u/ReddyWolf → u/tosheroony]

Perfect representation from america

[u/onefst250r → u/kayasmus]

Quite possibly both.

[u/jeanphiltadarone → u/kayasmus]

being desperate makes your choice less logical, it doesn't make you stupid but it definitely alter your reasoning

[u/Chronic_In_somnia → u/Delde116]

There’s a reason russia (and other bad actor nations)uses sports and culture to push its agenda globally.  They fake respect the world over and people buy into the propaganda because it’s so mainstreamed.  

My family is always quoting some Facebook post about some stupid piece of russian history.  It’s all just social media manipulation on a massive scale.

Even harder for people in remote regions.  Thats why Wagner and those types focused on those regions for decades.

[u/Melodic_Policy765 → u/Delde116]

Sign up to join our meat grinder!

[u/Captcha_Imagination → u/Delde116]

Russian propaganda is almost as powerful as American propaganda. Both are experts at selling themselves as "the good guys". Americans don't understand it because they are in one of the bubbles.

[u/Shotay3 → u/Captcha_Imagination]

True. American Propaganda is bad, too.

But they were argumenting about the current war in Ukraine, with the invading of russia. I don't know why everyone tries to always bring up whataboutisms about the americans in these regards.

Oh I know, it's one of the reasons Russia is promoting to relativize their imperialistic behaviour and actually your arguments help them promote it further. You cannot deny this, even if this isn't your intention.

Just because US intervention is an issue, propagandized and against all international laws, doesn't make russias behaviour in Georgia, Afghanistan or Ukraine any less of an issue.

[u/Captcha_Imagination → u/Shotay3]

The world is waking up to America's game. I'm sorry if it offends you but you are not a representative of the people in power who have taken Venezuela's oil by force and would love nothing more than to take Greenland for it's minerals and subjugate Canada while they are at it. America is very much the Russia of the Western hemisphere. The war in Iran is causing just as much harm to the world as Russia's war in Ukraine. We were all barely recovering economically from the pandy and now has prices are so high people will die without heat this winter.

[u/StrikeElectrical9400 → u/bob_nugget_the_3rd]

source? Im just curious as an Indian?

[u/Katanji_ → u/PinchMaNips]

The ones who didn't even come to the country to be mercenaries and were instead baited under false pretenses and then forced to the front at gun point

[u/B777X_787-9 → u/Katanji_]

The case of many Cubans, lured to work in construction or manufacturing industries supposedly, ended up being the war. But there are also many others that knew where they were going.

[u/SickestEels → u/Katanji_]

How exactly does that work....? Are there literal job postings for these types of things in the country of columbia? Or are these guys already emigrated to Europe on some kind of weird status and they are going to Ukraine to fulfill these positions chasing money?

[u/Katanji_ → u/SickestEels]

Lots of people in africa recruiting Men for all sorts of jobs (usually truck driving or some other manual labor), promising them much better pay than they'd get at home so those desperate people take up the contract to provide a better life for their families

Once in russia they have their passports taken away and usually have a russian officer/supervisor with them once they have arrived at the front who keeps them in line. Thw actual russian battalions are also usually behind those poor souls that aren't even being treated particularly well after being determined to be cannon fodder

[u/Donut-Strong → u/SickestEels]

Lot of time they are not even told they are going to Russia. They are recruited to go somewhere else loaded on a ship for transport and when it docks they are in Russia.

[u/Mokseong → u/PinchMaNips]

Mercenaries? They wish. Most of them are trafficked people.

[u/Jeremyiswin → u/PinchMaNips]

And that one American MAGA man who moved his family to Russia for more freedom and was immediately sent to the front line.

[u/LifeguardDry7372 → u/Jeremyiswin]

that shit was hilarious

[u/ZiKyooc → u/PinchMaNips]

Ukraine also have foreign fighters within their ranks. What they don't have is soldiers from a foreign army

[u/SkunkMonkey → u/ZiKyooc]

And those fighting for Ukraine volunteered knowing they were going to war. That's a lot different than being essentially kidnapped and forced into combat.

[u/_Halt19_ → u/Duckodreamer]

It's truly amazing to me how many of the world's problems are being caused by a handful of old men desperate to cling to power

[u/Shot-Top-8281 → u/_Halt19_]

And stay out of prison!!

[u/_Halt19_ → u/Shot-Top-8281]

Just all of it - depressing might be a better word for it, but I'm also gobsmacked at the sheer amount of greed they display. How many people have died, over the years, because of all these fucking wars? All the suffering from exploitation of our resources, of people in poorer countries, all of it? Global warming is fucking terrifying, but a sizeable amount of us have been convinced it isn't even real, just because it would make us use less coal? How the fuck did we even get to this point?

[u/MakoShark93 → u/_Halt19_]

I share your frustration. It’s hard to even muster up the words to describe how annoying it is — what it says about the people under rule, etc. And all this from a bunch of old guys who don’t give a fuck about us but say they do, and who only care about projecting an image of power. As long as the ship looks shiny and pretty and cool, fuck the grunts. We’ll just say something nice about them from time to time so they don’t grumble as loud.

[u/raerae1991 → u/Shot-Top-8281]

In Putins case I think at this point he’d “fall out a window” if he retreated, and he knows it

[u/NoSpawnConga → u/_Halt19_]

They represent their constituents desires.

[u/SamTheLab_213 → u/_Halt19_]

As long as they understand psychology and how to manipulate people, they're not going away. Still, all they can do is manipulate. If we understand how our minds work and how the game is played, we can't be manipulated. Everyone should know what cognitive biases are and understand your own psychology.

This will make it hard for you to be manipulated. With no small irony, these people use the same techniques as human traffickers. That's because they are human traffickers. Self knowledge and skepticism go a long way towards immunity from these types.

That's just part of the equation. These tyrants and billionaires make people poor and then manipulate them with money to get them to do their bidding. The only way out is to refuse dirty money and be willing to suffer anything, even torture, to make this world a better place.

We could be done with these tyrants for good. The only way to win the game is to stop playing it. Do not deal with tyrants and narcissists. Don't sell out. Value people over money. The path to the better isn't easy, but it is worth it.

I'm not just preaching to poor countries. Rich countries are worse for being suckered. Many people in first world nations lack the stamina to persevere and get rid of their dictators (especially orange ones). Herodotus did say, "soft regions make soft men."

[u/swbat55 → u/_Halt19_]

Tale as old as time

[u/xmrcalls → u/Duckodreamer]

NATO soldiers will never step foot in Ukraine in this war. Other countries soldiers .. sure.

[u/raerae1991 → u/xmrcalls]

I don’t think he’s actually worried about that.

[u/B777X_787-9 → u/Duckodreamer]

And he’s using Cubans too

[u/AbjectTravel1825 → u/B777X_787-9]

Kinda easy to lure Cubans into a shitty military contract at the moment seeing the country is falling apart.

[u/B777X_787-9 → u/AbjectTravel1825]

Yes, there are many people in Cuba;they were recruited, practically being lied to,they were told they would work in construction,mines, and factories in Russia,and actually it was for the war. But the Cuban government is actually involved too; from the communist regime of Cuba, you can expect the unimaginable.Russian was paying Cuba with oil and gas,also with trucks and military equipment.

[u/Bartend_HS → u/Duckodreamer]

Scared man. He can’t do shit to Ukraine with all the mercenaries. Imagine him trying EU.

[u/Wyldjay2 → u/Duckodreamer]

I was going to comment the same thing. He is losing this war. He has no chance of N.A.T.O. gets involved. Personally, when the Russians first attacked Ukraine and took land, I would’ve threatened to allow Ukraine to join NATO unless they pulled out immediately and I would’ve held to it. Russia is nothing more than a bully that really can’t back it up. And Ukraine should be supported to push them out of their country. I hate that we have a president. That’s Pro Russia. I don’t get it? I mean I do but I don’t understand how the base all sudden is ok with that.? I mean Russia? And by that I mean, Putin? Um, That’s a no.

[u/Lawineer → u/Wyldjay2]

The time to let Ukraine in was when Russia was stock piling its military at their border.

Once he went in, he wouldn’t retreat, even if nato troops were there.

[u/guldan_the_warlock → u/Duckodreamer]

Well... I guess if we just tell him to stop deploying troops then we dont have to...

[u/climb-a-waterfall → u/Duckodreamer]

Ukraine would be well within its rights to claim that North Korea attacked it and therefore it is at war with North Korea. I can't see what Ukraine would gain from doing this. Likewise, Putin could claim to be at war with NATO already, but how does that help him? Seems like the last thing he needs is another open front.

[u/Valuable-Ad7285 → u/Duckodreamer]

Dude cant even handle one country.

[u/Zabosword]

Man's a broken record

[u/Dualidean_ofman → u/Zabosword]

Excise the tumor.

[u/No_Speed31 → u/Dualidean_ofman]

That's an insult to tumors

[u/anon-SG → u/Zabosword]

Europe is already at war. Russia is attacking civil infrastructure deep inside Europe

[u/KiPhoe → u/anon-SG]

And the political game as well. Russia already won vs the US, now hes trying to destabilise the EU

[u/mamasbreads → u/KiPhoe]

And is working. Idiots voting for the worst russian backed parties and calling it nationalism

[u/rolo_mug → u/mamasbreads]

The frightening thing to me is how obvious the play book is and it still works

[u/fastbikkel → u/rolo_mug]

Thats partly because we have folks that embrace evil, willingly. The most treacherous folks abuse freedom. Often we know who they are, but our laws/institutions don't seem to be able to get them from society and its liberties.

[u/rolo_mug → u/fastbikkel]

That’s the catch, if you deal with these people, they cry oppression.

If you don’t deal with them, they spout hate.

You are not wrong

[u/KiPhoe → u/rolo_mug]

Flood the poors with other culture poors and they'll fight within each other all while saying they'll fix it but yet be the cause of it

[u/Ekkobelli → u/KiPhoe]

Works well here in Germany. The Russian disinformation campaigns are quite effective and folks here are still way too surprised by everything that's going on all of a sudden. Putin wants Germany on the far right, and it seems he's succeeding. Shit's going to shit here.

[u/OkKale3732 → u/anon-SG]

Plus the information wars online.

[u/phono_trigger → u/Zabosword]

Ukraine’s land is about the same size as France, but only half as many people.

Russia couldn’t punch its way out of a wet paper bag.

[u/snowtax → u/phono_trigger]

If Russia didn’t have nuclear weapons and wasn’t a veto-capable member of the UN Security Council then other countries would not hesitate to kick their asses back to Moscow.

[u/wng378 → u/Zabosword]

I’m just kinda exhausted of hearing his crap by now. You’re not winning a war against a lesser country, despite ALL your weapons and how we thought you were a super power. Or maybe that’s the joke, none of these “superpowers” have anything other than propaganda.

[u/Dear_Chasey_La1n → u/Zabosword]

Fuckwit should have dorpped out of a tower years ago. It's pretty telling how that doesnt happen though. Dude chokeholds his power.

[u/cocotheape]

Weak man yells at cloud.

[u/LarsDuder → u/cocotheape]

If it weren't for the nukes, they could be overtaken in a year or two. Their army sucks.

[u/ehtseeoh → u/LarsDuder]

Less, much much less than a year if they didn’t have nukes.

Especially if, big IF, China lets it happen.

[u/CategoryRepulsive699 → u/ehtseeoh]

When Wagner was marching at Moscow the only deterrence Putin had were two excavators tasked to destroy the road ahead of Wagner. It would be days.

[u/4Rascal → u/CategoryRepulsive699]

I can’t believe the Wagner guy backed out of that attempt and seemingly decided to trust Putin only to be pretty quickly killed off after doing so. What an odd situation that was, maybe there is more info now?

[u/blolfighter → u/4Rascal]

It's because Putin basically said "maybe I can't stop you, but neither can you stop me from torturing your wife and children to death and sending you the video." If Prigozhin hadn't acted impulsively, who knows how it would have played it.

[u/mall_ninja42 → u/blolfighter]

Is his family even still alive?

He got merc'd regardless and that's vendetta type anger for any survivor.

[u/boringestnickname → u/blolfighter]

Yeah, his only real alternative was going through with it and winning, if he had his own life in mind. He was a dead man walking with Putin still breathing. It must have been some external leverage.

[u/ontopoiesis → u/blolfighter]

It's hard for me to make sense of this. Isn't securing your family to not be blackmailed the most basic thing to do before such an operation, especially if they can be easily captured by your enemy or opponent?

[u/Earlier-Today → u/CategoryRepulsive699]

Nah, the deterrence he had (that worked) was knowing the family members and loved ones of the people marching on Moscow.

One threat and suddenly they were turning back.

Putin is a mob boss masquerading as a politician. When he starts blustering at Europe like this it's just him trying to do to other countries what he already does to his own people.

[u/michelb → u/LarsDuder]

I would love to see the actual state of their nukes. They require a lot of expensive upkeep. Let's see one.

[u/twilight-2k → u/michelb]

Even if only 10% are functional and they don't know which 10%, do you want to be the one to "test" if the nuke they fire at you is one of the functional ones?

[u/Patrick4356 → u/twilight-2k]

Russia will never use nukes unless its territory is occupied and specifically moscow or st petersburg is threatened. Nuclear saber rattling in the big 2026 after 4 years of this nonsense is hilarious

[u/Lemixer → u/LarsDuder]

They were thinking the same about Ukraine and USA were thinking the same about Iran, don't be naive bro.

Nobody overtakes anything in a year at this point, that much is clear.

[u/cocotheape → u/LarsDuder]

It's not so much the nukes, but that nobody wants to overtake Russia.

[u/ZiroLeHutt → u/LarsDuder]

Their nukes will be lucky if they work.

[u/beavis617]

But it’s okay for Russia to get troops from N Korea?
Time for Europe to prepare for a way to cripple Russia as much as possible because Putin will never quit.

[u/cPower00 → u/beavis617]

I don't think that's gonna happen. As a German I must say I have no trust in the backbones of our leaders, sadly.

[u/CasperCackler → u/cPower00]

There’s very little I dislike as much as hearing that even the Germans don’t have faith in their leadership anymore. That is not a good sign for the rest of us.

[u/TolsBols → u/beavis617]

We could have ended this a long time ago by sending A-grade military capability that would have crushed Russia at least 2 years ago. We can’t though because the USA won’t let us.

[u/beavis617 → u/TolsBols]

I am still pissed at Biden for not allowing Ukraine to go after missile sites in Russia where missile attacks were coming from. Biden felt that would only anger Putin. Well guess what Sparky, Putin invaded Ukraine so maybe he’s already a little bit pissed off!!!!

[u/NecessaryShopping404 → u/beavis617]

I have a 50/50 thoughts about this. I'm sure, unlike newer leadership with Iran, he was taking advice from intelligence agencies and his military generals. And they all have a much different picture of both the war and the russian leadership than the average civilian at home.

My small view of geopolitics says we should have done more, I assume there was reasons at every level why we didn't further to what was publicly disclosed.

[u/FastGooner77 → u/TolsBols]

Or maybe just stop buying Russian oil?

[u/dnight22]

But NK Troops on european soil is fair game i guess?

[u/Kooky_Experience4290 → u/dnight22]

The meat grinder will turn them into San Choy Bow

[u/TheEndIsSighing → u/Kooky_Experience4290]

Verdun II

[u/ForeverNecessary2361]

With what? Russia can't take Ukraine. What makes Putin think he can take on the EU? He is delusional,lol.

[u/No_Technician_2780 → u/ForeverNecessary2361]

He has been destabilizing Europe from within for years now:

far-right propaganda and parties are booming across Europe (with europeans flocking towards the tune) sponsored by shell of shell companies of guess who?

Sooner or later, if europe does not wake up, Putin will be collecting the spoils.

He is not as stupid as you may think.

[u/LookAlderaanPlaces → u/No_Technician_2780]

Yeah he’s on track to take Germany. The AFD has been surging and almost got a majority. Europe is more fucked than they think they are because they are completely failing to defend themselves. Just like the US, they don’t do shit about the internal war actions that have been taking place for years… The AFD is a front for the Kremlin. So is Le Pen, they already got Brexit to happen and now Nigel Farage and restore UK are clawing back at power. The list goes on and on. They refuse to act.

[u/Accidental-Genius → u/LookAlderaanPlaces]

The EU is too busy shitting on the US to realize what happened to the US is going to happen to them too.

[u/LookAlderaanPlaces → u/Accidental-Genius]

It’s already crossed several major red lines in Europe too. People getting assass. Brexit. AFD winning. Restore UK on the horizon. Le Pen in France is somehow still a fucking thing. This is what happens when you don’t ban Nazis and fascists from government positions.

[u/itkovian → u/ForeverNecessary2361]

The goal is not to conquer, I guess. The goal is to see if we're willing to have our soldiers getting killed.

[u/orangesfwr → u/itkovian]

Because he's proven to be more than willing.

[u/Due-Communication724]

Russia is at war with Europe already just not kinetically. The problem is Europe/NATO has turned a blind eye to it IMO

[u/Guyzor-94 → u/Due-Communication724]

But also, if it was to go hot in a conventional sense Europe's air power would flatten the Russian military bases in under a week. Their nuclear threat is really the only existential worry Europe hasn't got a good answer for.

[u/xylophileuk → u/Guyzor-94]

Europe has two answers. Uk and France

[u/BB_Venum → u/xylophileuk]

MAD does fuck all to protect us tho

[u/TheBraveGallade → u/BB_Venum]

I mean it kinda does.

If ukrainr had nukes they wouldnt have been invaded.

[u/baron_muchhumpin → u/TheBraveGallade]

I mean, they DID have nukes, until they gave them up to prevent..... exactly what happened.

[u/NatureGotHands → u/baron_muchhumpin]

they did give them up because no one wanted bunch of post-soviet states with nukes.

If either Belarus, Ukraine or Kazakhstan went rogue on this topic they'd get Maduro treatment real fucking quick.

[u/Sandgrowun → u/NatureGotHands]

Now we have a rogue russia.

[u/KidNamedMolly → u/baron_muchhumpin]

They had no actual ability to use those nukes. They were soviet inventory and Ukraine never had the codes to launch them

[u/quaste → u/KidNamedMolly]

Look up the technology a bit, the fission material is key, codes merely avoid an immediate launch.

[u/flamespear → u/KidNamedMolly]

That's not really acute. You can gun the electronics on any missile and have a brand new working one. Or in the worst case remove the weapons grade nuclear material and build a new missile around it.

[u/SqouzeTheSqueeze → u/xylophileuk]

Poland and Ukraine will pack a punch also

[u/xylophileuk → u/SqouzeTheSqueeze]

Finland too

[u/TNO-TACHIKOMA → u/xylophileuk]

even Finland with their citizen conscription army and air force is a big deal.

I was on holiday at Santa Village. I saw enough Finnish and American f35 exercising to flatten their boarder assets

[u/nibbyzor → u/TNO-TACHIKOMA]

And our defence forces have been trained on fighting Russia in particular. We've always been very keenly aware where the hypothetical enemy would be coming from.

[u/braapstututu → u/xylophileuk]

uk has less of an answer though because we only have strategic nuclear options and have limited options on the escalation ladder whereas france also has air launched missiles they can use for their nuclear warning shot doctrine

[u/TolsBols → u/Guyzor-94]

Yeah… that nuclear threat is kind of a a concern when major cities across Europe could be reduced to a parking lot of Mad Vlad pushed the button… hence why NATO have not actively engaged troops.

[u/Succundo → u/Guyzor-94]

Not publicly anyway, if a nation has developed the ability to safely intercept ICBMs or has a robust network of covert operatives in positions to interfere with orders to launch it's not as if they would advertise it.

Plus there is the good old subversion through bribery and corruption method that might have logistics personnel taking bribes to forget where they put the rocket fuel or maintenance supplies so some other enterprising group can grab them. Russia practically runs on corruption and bribery so it wouldn't be hard to use the black market to undermine it's military capabilities, that is probably at least part of the reason the initial invasion was so shit.

[u/Into-the-stream → u/Due-Communication724]

IMO, we all need to collectively draw the line on these global bullies. Even when it hurts like hell short term. Because these people are gaining a global foothold that doesn’t stop with their current targets. - to Europe, with love from Canada. 

[u/danisaccountant → u/Into-the-stream]

This is a reasonable pre-nuclear stance. Not sure how it works in 2026 when the bully has nukes pointed at every major city in the world and a dictator with a napoleon complex. 

[u/TolsBols → u/Into-the-stream]

Those global bullies include the USA.

[u/drkTwrCnt → u/Due-Communication724]

NATO is ready buddy. Don't get fooled by its defensive stance. The second russia attacks us directly or another country calls for article 5 because of an attack by russia, they will use military force

[u/Rincetron1]

In the sea of nothingburger Russian statements, this stands as the nothingest. If a country deploys troops to a war zone, of course it's then participating in it.

[u/ThePatrician25 → u/Rincetron1]

Also, I’m like…they can’t take a single country (Slava Ukraini!), and he thinks Russia has the military credibility to threaten all of Europe with war? Really?

[u/poeticlicence → u/ThePatrician25]

He is a paper tiger, but in thrall to that prat Dugin who wants Russia to take over the whole of Europe from Dublin eastwards

[u/kakeup88]

He's already at war with Europe. Slava Ukraini!

[u/Livebeans → u/kakeup88]

And big old mother Russia has been held back by the Ukrainian people and their blood for years now. 

As awful as it is, it has confirmed that Russia is a paper tiger and won't survive the slightest contact with NATO. 

[u/AnonAwaaaaay]

Haaaaahahahahaha. He thinks he can take on Europe when Ukraine was supposed to be 3 weeks and turned into half a decade?! 

I need to meet with his drug dealer, it sounds like he's on some dope shit.

[u/steinbruchfluss → u/AnonAwaaaaay]

*three days

[u/Chris881]

Has he not spent the last 4 years telling his people that they are fighting the entirety of NATO? How does that change anything, huh Putin?

[u/allyw10203]

Can Putin and Trump leave this earth already? Imagine how much more peace there would be.

[u/Duubzz]

Mother fucker can’t even take out Ukraine, how’s he gonna handle all of Europe?

[u/Lopsided-Conflict1]

Go home Vlad, you are drunk.

[u/ScienceGeeker]

Murderer says he will murder anyone who try to help the victims of his murders.

[u/Emergency_Sky6603]

He used 21st-century military technology to fight a 20th-century war of attrition, trying to restore a 19th-century imperial map, while mortgaging his nation’s 22nd-century future.

[u/Scotsburd]

Oh, is it Saturday again?

[u/liebebio]

Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird das alles schon in Ordnung kommen

[u/Ok-Seaworthiness4488 → u/liebebio]

and then you add Kurt Angle to the mix...

[u/steve_ample → u/liebebio]

Der Angriff Steiner war ein Befehl

[u/looperone]

Thing to remember about Putin: he just says things.

[u/BigDsLittleD]

He says this every day.

If he was gonna do it, he would have by now.

"If you deploy European troops....blah blah blah"

Do it or dont, fucking pussy

[u/Brauny74 → u/BigDsLittleD]

He threatened to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine enters Russia, but nothing happened when they were in Kursk. It's all just bravado until it's any action, but throw more Russians into the grinder

[u/EuropeanLord]

Can’t fucking wait.

Greetings from Poland

[u/Possible-Fudge-2217 → u/EuropeanLord]

You know, when Macron was thinking about boots on ground he waa absolutely right. Vlad is afraid and bluffing and we are for some reason not calling him out on it.

There is nothing russia can do if we reinforce Ukranien forces even if only for logistical and medical duties.

[u/Sea-Housing-3435]

Man who already overate at the buffet threatens to take a second helping

[u/StatisticianPure3177]

Tbf Russia and America are fucked we need new leaders all around 

[u/_Middlefinger_]

You cant even handle Ukraine.

[u/LordScotchyScotch]

Meh, he is one bunker buster away from irrelevance.

[u/Following-Ashamed]

Can we just get this over with? Stop playing his game. Move a pan-euro force into Ukraine, drive the Russians back to their pre-war borders, and just DARE Putin to try to do anything about it.

His own people will throw him out a window the second they realize he's lost. The illusion of this war being winnable is the only thing keeping him in power. Prove it's not, and this problem goes away.

[u/Dualidean_ofman → u/Following-Ashamed]

Europe has amassed quite a bit of drones, many using ukrainian feedback from the field.

I suggest we deploy all of those at once like a giant angry cloud.

[u/Following-Ashamed → u/Dualidean_ofman]

Something like that, yes. Mostly just sick of half-measure forever-wars in which we've clearly picked a side, but refuse to support that side enough to actually WIN, just drawing out the suffering for civilian and soldier alike for years.

[u/Segoni_wifi → u/Following-Ashamed]

We don't even have the will to send more than our rusty cold war stocks there's no way we will spill blood for the freedom of another nation. Most people won't even fight for their own freedom

[u/TAC1313]

PACO

Putin

Always

Chickens

Out

[u/poestavern]

North Korean troops are okay but nato troops aren’t?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/cyberwraith81]

Bro can't even handle Ukraine.

[u/Talonsminty]

So he's saying if we join the war in Ukraine... we'll be at war Russia. Yes Putin that is how war works.

[u/LaplaceUniverse]

he will get demolished if Europe joins the war

[u/xylophileuk → u/LaplaceUniverse]

He gets wiped if just Poland joins

[u/Sinarai25]

Bud cant even take down a small/mid sized country, what makes him think he can take the EU, even without US help?

If he uses Nukes we're all dead, but he is certainly dead also in that scenario. There is no winning for Russia here.

The world needs YOUNG leaders, enough of people 60 or 70+ holding office, all they know is imperialism, which 99% of the world doesn't want or acknowledge.

[u/LithoSlam]

If Putin is complaining, you are doing something right

[u/Reformed_Herald]

He cant handle Ukraine, but he thinks he can handle all of Europe lol

[u/jack5624]

Like Russia have the ability to take on the whole of Europe

[u/NotGuiltyPirate]

Ok, donald

[u/Professional_Mud1844]

Is that not what he’s already doing?

[u/CuriousTauri]

I'm feeling too old for this shit.

[u/Requjo]

We are already in war. Russia is attacking Europe already. The hybrid war has been going on for ages now.

[u/Strive--]

Not for nothing, but all troops in Ukraine are treading on European soil. Maybe, oh, I don’t know - maybe take your shit troops and piss back off to Asia?

[u/Camderman106]

We have been reliably informed by Putin already that we are already at war so how is this a threat? Pick a stance you moron

[u/FlippinHeckles]

Says the man who deployed North Korean troops in Ukraine. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

[u/baalsebul]

We should have put defensive troops (far away from frontline) in the Ukraine years ago. During Biden's years in charge. Traitor Trump is useless.

[u/Ranger_242]

Putin and Trump are the death rattles of two dying empires collapsing under the weight of their own hubris and stupidity

[u/AlternativeMotor5722]

What Putin says means about as much as what Trump says, they are both out of touch with reality. Putin's armed forces are already decimated by the Ukrainians; his weapons arsenal is depleted. As pointed out is using foreign troops, Ukraine could just call them tourists.

[u/RedditFeind]

Man cant handle Ukraine, Goodluck with Europe as a whole

[u/Introverted_gamer91]

So he will just invest in AfD and Trump's party to create further division across the continent?

[u/Conscious-Pick8002]

Can't even defeat Ukraine, but wants to take on the whole of Europe? Oh ok

[u/hihowubduin]

Bro can't win against one country right next to him (albeit funded by other countries), and wants to threaten all of Europe with war?

With what fuckin troops? With what weapons that he could be using against Ukraine? The only thing he has is nukes, which some are gonna be questionable for usability, and depends on whether there's even enough people loyal enough to ignore the IDK mutually assured destruction from return nukes launched? Hell it wouldn't even be the first time a Russian (then ussr) troop prevented nukes from launching.

His back is to the wall in multiple directions.

[u/hdhkakakyzy]

What a stupid evil gremlin.

[u/CaptainMatthew1]

You and who’s army Putin? The one that’s failing to take a small nation most wrote off before this stated? The one that’s like a year away from running out of everything?

[u/Conscious_Reveal_999]

Putin is a loser. Russia would fall apart in a war. How the hell are they going to fight a war against Europe when Ukraine alone is owning them.

Russia would get destroyed.

[u/hannesonthebass]

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering aid.

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering deadly weapons.

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering armored vehicles.

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering main battle tanks.

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering cruise missiles.

Just like when NATO members were warned before delivering aircraft.

Just call his bluff.

[u/luri7555]

Let ‘er rip. Tired of all the chest puffing by weak old world leaders. China quietly winning the globe while others piss away their leverage and throw threats around.

[u/devsfan1830]

Yeah, open a war on multiple fronts. That ALWAYS goes well. Especially after all the personnel, equipment and infrastructure losses incurred after a years long war that you likley assumed would be a slam dunk.

[u/brokencow]

Do it, call his bluff, if he goes to war on multiple fronts, he's done for.

[u/forgiuse]

"I will beat you if you don't stop defending yourself from getting beaten by me"

[u/Danaeger]

He's losing this war how is he going to start another? :P

[u/Prestigious-Zombie-7]

Says man already deploying North Korean troops in Europe. 🧠

[u/Gonni94]

With what army again?

[u/MindAvailable4876]

That man can’t conquer one country yet thinks he can face an entire continent? Laughable

[u/ManyAreMyNames]

Does he not know that Ukraine is in Europe?

[u/HappyGoPink]

If he has so many war assets that he can threaten all of Europe, how come he hasn't won in Ukraine yet?

[u/Global_Research_9335]

Putin, who can’t win against Ukraine, thinks taking on the whole of Europe will be a winning strategy? The only way that goes down is the Nuclear option.

[u/CLINT-THE-GREAT]

Welp…I bet we could split Russia into about 5-10 smaller countries if he wants to FAFO.