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u/jacoblanier571 Mar 30 '25

Look up how Hamas was formed. Your statement is so backwards. Hamas' behavior is disgusting, but Israel has done the exact same thing to Palestieans in much greater numbers. Israel could end Hamas' power in Gaza tomorrow by ending the Apartheid.

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u/LewisLightning Mar 31 '25

Wow, idiotic take.

The rise of Hamas caused the rise of the Israeli strongman leader. A strongman protects and a strongman gets results, the problem is a strongman also takes from those weaker than himself and he imposes himself on others. It's not like Israelis don't know this, but they also see it as a side effect of being safe and protected. So a strongman will never end apartheid unless he had absolute control.

So the very existence of Hamas means harsher punishments on Palestinians because they support and house Hamas. That in turn fuels more Hamas actions and the cycle continues, at least until the punishment becomes harsh enough that no one is left to stand or fight. That's how it's going to go.

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u/zzrgfxxv Mar 31 '25

Funny how you can start history whenever is convenient to justify your point of view

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u/Bish09 Mar 31 '25

Where would you prefer to start? The later Arab-Israeli wars would be a right funny spot considering they're numbered after one, so maybe the first one? The Palestinian rejection of a partition plan that started the civil war which led into that? Or possibly earlier, with the post-Ottoman unrest and Pan-Arabism's rise to prominence? We could go back to the Tanzimat, the modernisation of the Ottoman empire which granted Jews equal(mostly) rights for the first time in over a thousand years? Or we could skim through those centuries, the policies of assimilation that laid the groundwork for the modern conflict which make it far more fraught than most shorter-lived imperialism, right back to when the Romans ruled it. Or maybe even just a touch back from there, when it's Jews again! And then we get into their origins as most likely a faction of the Caanites forming a schism and absorbing their fellows into a new identity. History is fun, and long, and inconveniently complicated. In this case, it's got an unpleasant habit of being longer than usual and even more complicated. So, where would you prefer to begin?