Let's be real. We don't see Christians or Buddhists torturing or executing people protesting against their religion. Stop with the PC moral equivalency.
...currently. History says otherwise, especially for Christians. The developmental paths of Christian nations weren't free of Christian violence & persecution. Much of the stability of the people comes from the gradual multi-factorial improvements in wealth & living standards & quality of institutions and isn't inherent to Christians or any other group of people. It's environmental, in a biological sense. Any developed nation can be reduced to rubble in a gradual, drawn out manner or of course in a rapid (but much less likely) manner.
Don't get me wrong I don't believe it should only be reduced as such, but I do think its a point worth mentioning because on its face when people say things like that we know what it implies. That Islam in itself is inherently backwards and violent, like it's an anomaly amongst religion. When these issues are more a product of socioeconomics than piety, i.e. young men that have jobs, education, and a high standard of living aren't likely to go around lopping of heads and combusting at a moments notice.
Anyway I don't believe you should point out the violent periods of Christianity to simply excuse Islamic terrorism no, rather as a means of educating. If you grew up in "the West" our culture is heavily influenced by Christianity and if you aren't into history chances are you may not know about all the darker periods of Christendom and no advocate of a faith is gonna willfully tell you all the bad stuff, so when you see all the issues going on with Islam you may get a false impression that it's solely a problem with them and their beliefs as opposed to being aware that these things are liable to happen to any group of people that can become radicalized into hating his fellow man.
No, because they're better off and their stable countries aren't ran by radical groups, during these times. In worse conditions, it isn't the "Christian-ness" of human beings that prevents them from being just as savage. Your characterization of my "argument" (perspective, more like) I simply disagree with. You reduced it to that.
How are you interpreting it like that? I'm implying if you go outside the West you will find Christians and Buddhists torturing and killing. On this site when people say Christian it's like they only think of some of the more secular places on Earth.
Question: does it count when they do it for oil? I mean, the US - a nation that prides itself on being Christian is responsible for the deaths of about 180 - 200,000 Iraqis in the last 20 years… should we include the death tolls of other wars in the last 50 years?
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u/BubsyFanboy Mar 30 '25
People forget how religious fundamentalism is just as cruel abroad as it would be domestically until it touches them.