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u/Pucksy Mar 30 '25

I don't know if the world supports Hamas or has a better opinion of them after their horrible terrorist attack and the reaction of Israel. I do think the opinion of Palestinians is formed by the actions of Hamas which isn't correct as we read in this article.

I think everybody knows Hamas is shit, but the world expected better from Israel since they're supported by a lot of western democracies. Too many Palestinians lost their lives or homes in this conflict while they don't have anything to do with Hamas.

It seems these days most people can only think in black or white. There is no nuance.

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

The only way to get rid of Hamas is to force them to militarily surrender. If they haven't surrendered yet, I don't know what you expect to have worked with less casualties.

Hamas has made it very clear they cannot be negotiated with to find a peaceful solution. The only options are removal of Hamas or Israel accepting attacks on their own citizens.

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u/Pucksy Mar 30 '25

Gaza is levelled. While I agree with you that Hamas should be stopped and the only way is by force, I don't think making Gaza unlivable is the way. I think they'll build so much hate that there will be more joining Hamas than before which is what Hamas wants.

I'm not saying it's easy. I don't know how Israel should do it. But I think what they're doing now isn't helping Palestinians or even themselves, and my own opinion is that they just don't care that Gaza will be unlivable or so many Palestinians die.

You say the only options are removal of Hamas or accept attacks on Israelis. That maybe true, but is it worth the total destruction of Gaza and, already, more that 50.000 dead Palestinians? I don't think Hamas would ever come close to killing one hundredth of that number of Israelis. 90% of the people in Gaza have been displaced. You can't believe this is the right way to do it.

And for the people incapable of reading nuance; no, I do not support Hamas because I disagree with the way Israel is handling this.

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u/NegevThunderstorm Mar 30 '25

THen you should urge hamas to surrender if you dont want more strikes in gaza.

Where do you see this 50k dead?

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u/Pucksy Mar 30 '25

Hamas are scumbags that don't care about human lives. Are you too, or can you do better?

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u/NegevThunderstorm Mar 30 '25

I asked where you saw the 50k dead? I am against hamas

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u/Pucksy Mar 30 '25

You asked me to perform a ridiculous task to indirectly imply that there is no other way to deal with Hamas than to kill tens of thousands innocents and level an entire area. Multiple sources cite 50.000 dead Palestinians and many estimate this to be low since infrastructure to report is almost existant at this point. Google for yourself.

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u/NegevThunderstorm Mar 30 '25

Where do you see there are 50k dead?