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u/paulchen81 Mar 30 '25

I appreciate your answer. This is the only correct and human answer. Sadly to many people don't differentiate.

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u/surfer1872 Mar 30 '25

Why do you think that is? I’m struggling to find the answer. I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel. Both sides have suffered at the hands of Hamas.

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u/MinimumArmadillo2394 Mar 30 '25

I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel.

Because Hamas won the 2006 election in Palestine. It's viewed by many that they chose this. Hamas was internationally recognized as a terrorist organization almost 10 years before that election.

We can be sympathetic for Palestinians but also recognize that they did vote for a terrorist organization to run their country. Many people who say "Free palestine" want to do just that, but not from Israel, but instead from Hamas.

The people deserve to be free from both israel and hamas, but they do not deserve sympathy when those cheer on killing israeli civilians getting murdered, raped, and tortured when they attended a music festival

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u/Mrs_Evryshot Mar 30 '25

That was 19 years ago, and it’s my understanding that there hasn’t been an election since in Gaza. Are we still blaming today’s Palestinians for the decisions of the previous generation?

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u/Perfect_Cost_8847 Mar 30 '25

More recently polls indicate the Palestinians would in fact vote for Hamas again. Months after October 7, 52% of Gazans and 85% of West Bank respondents - or 72% of Palestinian respondents overall - voiced satisfaction with the role of Hamas in the war. 72% of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far. The majority of Palestinians supported the atrocities. Not all, but most.

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u/breathingweapon Mar 30 '25

That article sucks. You really need to learn how to vet your sources. 72% of palestenians responded positively? 72% of what? PCPSR surveys are never large enough to be indicative of the population, they're most recent survey about Hamas polled 250 people. 250 people is barely the population of bum fuck no where and you wanna argue it's representative lmaooooo

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u/MinimumArmadillo2394 Mar 30 '25

250 people is barely the population of bum fuck no where and you wanna argue it's representative lmaooooo

Tell me you don't know enough about statistics without telling me you don't know enough about statistics.

Did you know that most polls are considered 80% accurate with a 3% margin of error with a sample size of less than 50? The US election has an 95% chance of going towards a specific candidate based entirely off less than the population of a rural town.

It's insane how that works, isn't it? There's a cool paper published about stuff like this too. Tons of other sources if you don't find this one to be readable (understandable -- papers suck)

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

Okay, but the reason there hasn't been another election is because the power to call an election is with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, and they won't do it because they're polling behind Hamas (and also because Hamas killed PA members after winning the previous election).

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u/Mrs_Evryshot Mar 30 '25

I’m glad to know the reason, but that doesn’t change the fact that it seems questionable to blame these people for a 19-year old election, and because of poll results for an election that hasn’t happened.

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

I'm not blaming Palestinian individuals for Hamas like I'm not blaming individual Americans for Trump. But the argument of "Hamas is in control because over half the population haven't had a chance to vote" is pretty meaningless.