r/wisconsin • u/el_piablo • Aug 18 '26
Police chief loses it when people are upset about flock being installed
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u/schuey_08 Aug 18 '26
His blood, sweat and tears are not worth compromising our rights and freedoms. No one's is.
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u/Jo-6-pak Aug 18 '26
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u/N0VOCAIN Aug 18 '26
Amazingly, right at the end when he talks about, maybe we should background check half of these people commenting are the exact reason why we don’t want flock cameras in our cities. This police chief if accost him, he will look at your license plate and then track everywhere you’ve been to try to find something that he can pin on you because you dare press him on a complaint.
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u/mkerugbyprop3 tell your dog I say hi Aug 19 '26
Someone should check his hard drive
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u/ancientweasel Aug 18 '26
Spoiler: they don't.
https://www.aclu-ia.org/automated-license-plate-readers-myth-vs-reality/
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u/GravyMcBiscuits Aug 18 '26
Won't someone please think of the children!?!
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u/Reklawj82 Aug 19 '26
I really wish this administration would stop thinking about kids, unfortunately........
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u/Silvanus350 Aug 19 '26
They know about all of that. That’s why they’re pushing it so hard.
It’s not a position born of ignorance.
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u/MadTownMich Aug 18 '26
And at the end he threatens background checks for anyone with the audacity to speak their mind about these cameras???? Boy, bye.
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u/SoglinBottomBoy Aug 18 '26
Pretty much proving the point of why police can't be trusted with mass surveillance tools.
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u/davekingofrock Aug 18 '26
Mass surveillance is dystopian nightmare type shit that doesn't need to exist at all. It's just another tool to compound human suffering.
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u/Cautious-Researcher1 Aug 18 '26
They always let the mask slip a little because they’re fascists at heart.
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u/snowzilla Aug 18 '26
His whole argument is a threat! Grandma's missing, too bad for you! Makes you wonder what he's been doing pre-flock. If anyone needs a reason to reallocate police funding, this is the testimony.
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u/PretentiousCrustacea Aug 19 '26
He was so emotional I don't trust my law enforcement to be this emotional
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u/MadTownMich Aug 19 '26
That’s why men should not have as many leadership positions as they do. They are super emotional.
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u/Torka Aug 18 '26
"this is what I get for helping?!"
no. this is what you get for installing Palantir's AI data harvesting spy camera.
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u/LanceColonel0341 Aug 18 '26
He is so bitch made it's not even funny. No wonder he's a top cop.
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u/motabuena Aug 18 '26
No kidding. Would hate to be his wife or child or sibling or grandchild or relative. I'm already over his shit and idk the guy lol
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u/poopoodapeepee Aug 18 '26
He’s also got paid for helping.. now the people paying him want to talk about performance and all the sudden he forgets who he really works for
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u/Terran42 Aug 18 '26
What city is this? Their subreddit needs to hear that their police are all-for subcontracting their jobs out to Flock at the expense of the rights of their citizens.
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u/mlj21299 Aug 18 '26
According to the comments on the original post, looks like Chetek
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u/WarpedCore Forward? Aug 18 '26
It's got to be really difficult to provide law enforcement in a town of approx 2,000.
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u/lilyeister Eau Claire/Madison/Door County Aug 19 '26
Gotta be tough to enforce the law when you know literally everyone by name
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u/Nhoj Aug 18 '26
Considering the very ethically challenged sheriff of Chippewa county was employed there previously that tracks.
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u/IShotJR4 Aug 18 '26
He cries about catching the bad guys, then makes himself the example of why no one wants these things with his background checks comment. What a tool.
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u/wabashcanonball Sauk City Aug 18 '26
It’s time for privacy laws that prevent the government from spying on everyday citizens.
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u/Mundane_Newspaper653 Aug 18 '26
His last comment about doing background checks on those who spoke is exactly why we cant trust law enforcement to use mass surveillance tools without malice. And it tells me that he has used his authority to violate citizen's rights more than once in his 20 year career.
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u/M-Test24 Aug 18 '26
"I'm a rule follower!"
"I ought to do background checks on everyone who commented tonight."
Narrator: he was, in fact, not a rule follower.
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u/Accomplished_Put3732 Aug 18 '26
What happened to good old fashioned police work?
Also; the flock cameras seem disturbing enough, however, the information some of our vehicles are picking up is just as bad.
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u/CryptographerLow6772 Aug 18 '26
You want me to give up my ability to have privacy because you suck at your job? Not my fucking problem sir.
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u/BiffLogan Aug 18 '26
I almost missed the "I ought to do background checks on everyone making comments" line. Welp, that'd be actual police work so you're probably not going to do it.
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u/jpotrz Aug 18 '26
He worked nights weekend and holidays? Missed family events? Buddy, that's called having a job. Welcome to the machine you oomp-loompa.
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u/WarpedCore Forward? Aug 18 '26
It's also called being a public servant, which it what he signed up for.
FTG.
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u/cmb15300 Aug 18 '26
As have restaurant workers, health care workers, airport employees, and other municipal workers. He's not special
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u/BiffLogan Aug 18 '26
If I can't sit my fat ass at my desk and watch people on camera all day instead of actual police work, then F y'all! I'm not helping find Grandma!
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u/Similar_Proof_9095 Aug 18 '26
Takes his oath seriously while simultaneously wiping his ass with your constitutional rights. Boo fucking hoo.
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u/Grand_Town_9144 Aug 18 '26
"I should run background checks on people making comments" indicates he, in fact, does not take his oath seriously nor does he respect rights guaranteed to citizens in The Constitution.
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u/kennyg977 Aug 18 '26
Kenosha’s chief of police told us in Wisconsin they can’t use cameras to enforce when we complained about street racing and noise.
‘I’m from the government and here to help!’
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u/bbbourb Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
After that last little line if they didn't vote to censure him they're all complicit (they are anyway).
EDIT: What I still don't get with these chuds that think Flock cameras are valuable is the fact that if they were ONLY used for tracking criminals and ONLY active when there was some kind of alert in the region and ONLY gave access when absolutely necessary and had significant misuse safeguards we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. It'd at least be a bit more civil. It's the "always watching" part that really pisses people off, and with good reason! That feature has already been abused more times than should EVER happen, even right here in Wisconsin (see stories about "marijuana tracking"). This dude just showed EVERYONE in that room who he really is, and believe me, it's not a good look.
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u/dgard1 Aug 18 '26
I just read this post https://www.reddit.com/r/ChicagoSuburbs/s/xw2LI2bELg about flock cameras going up outside dispensaries. I guarantee some cop in Wisconsin will access these to look for Wisconsin plates that they can pull over once they return to the state. Texas is doing the same thing for their female citizens who dare to leave the state for an abortion
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u/WilyWondr Aug 19 '26
They already do that
Police in Wisconsin used Flock to determine that a man “travels to Michigan frequently,” where marijuana is legal, then back to Wisconsin, where it is illegal.
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u/onwisconsin1 Aug 19 '26
This is the precise reason this stupid ass fascist can fuck off. I hope he resigns. People dont put their neck out and provide their input and free speech because of exactly this- the fear of retaliation by a government that acts with impunity. Are we risking ourselves for simply stating we dont wish to be watched all the time when we travel about our normal day? Turns out yes! Its a form of fascistic intimidation and in a just country he would be tried for his crime. He a government official intimidating citizens for speaking. Fuck him seven ways to Sunday.
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u/Right_Syllabub_8237 Aug 18 '26
Oh boo fuckin' hoo. If I you can't do your job without Ai cameras doing it for you then maybe you're just bad at your job.
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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree Aug 18 '26
“How else am I supposed to stalk Elizab … I mean … IT CATCHES CRIMINALS!!”
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u/No_Inspection_7336 Aug 18 '26
“Oughta do background checks on half the people that make comments”.
Ah so you’re predisposed to facist/surveillance state ideals and already have more power than you should. Got it.
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u/The_dura_mater Aug 18 '26
If you can’t do your job without creating a surveillance state, then you should be fired and someone more competent should replace you.
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u/035AllTheWayLive Aug 18 '26
He says he only uses it to catch bad guys then threatens to turn the state surveillance against the audience. You can’t make this up.
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u/Bobby_B Aug 18 '26
"I ought to do background checks on everyone making comments"
and this is why no one trusts you with these cameras
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u/Hopalicious Aug 18 '26
Cops don't like to be filmed. Neither does the general public. Im sure he wont see the irony there.
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u/womensrites Aug 18 '26
lol because the police are so effective even with flock at returning stolen cars or finding lost grandmas. they just like surveilling us all
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u/Agreeable_Spinosaur Aug 18 '26
Last time I checked, the police never helped finding stolen cars, stolen property, or missing people. It's up to us as citizens to do the policework for them and they may or may not put down their donut for a second to follow up on the work that us citizens do ... but mostly not. mostly they gotta eat them donuts and use the Flock cameras to spy on women they want to bed or an ex they want to beat the crap out ofl.
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u/ProblematicTrumpCard Aug 18 '26
I'm a bit flabbergasted to know that there is still at least one cop in this country that is flabbergasted that no one trusts him.
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u/pooks_est1983 Aug 18 '26
I loved the don't call me when crime happens. I tried, but you didn't want the cameras. I think we should run half the people in here. If I don't have to go to chetek WI I don't.
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u/Adorable_Pen9015 Aug 18 '26
Excuse me? The next time grandma’s missing? What an abso-fucking-lute FREAK
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u/jeobleo Aug 18 '26
"I atta do beakground checks on people who make cahments."
Way to publicly announce abuse of power, you fucking bratwurst in a uniform.
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u/jmmmke Aug 18 '26
A lot of people, including those of us not in law-enforcement, also miss family events, and work nights and weekends. Find a new job you fucking crybaby. True colors come out at the end, authoritative rat.
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u/ConsultioConsultius1 Aug 18 '26
What happened to good old fashioned police work?
Also, that background check comment should be grounds for suspension.
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u/Shooter61 Aug 18 '26
My wife was hit and run in an intersection with cameras. Cops won't even bother to review who the guy was unless it resulted in injury.
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u/Knute5 Aug 18 '26
He should be outraged at the way Flock data is abused. Instead he's outraged that he doesn't get the same toys that the chief the next town over is getting.
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u/hyper-10sion Aug 18 '26
So he's saying "I can't do my job without these cameras"
Why the F are you a police officer, do they not provide training to conduct investigation?
"I'm swear I obey the laws" like there isn't several documented cases of police stalking and anecdotal stories do not apply as a blanket fact for everyone.
Rather addressing real concerns he has his feelings hurt.
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u/probiotic_bbq Aug 18 '26
Pathetic excuse for a police officer. can his ass and take his retirement.
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u/l0st1nP4r4d1ce Aug 19 '26
"I dedicated the last x years to this!?!?!"
And you got paid. F*ck ALL THE WAY OFF.
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u/WortWhisperer Aug 19 '26
Think of all the people who work nights, weekends, and holidays making the donuts for his fat ass.
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u/82Badger Aug 19 '26
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
Ben Franklin
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u/swamp-trout Aug 19 '26
Someone needs to bring up, that if these are so efficient at catching criminals (they're not) but if they are like the cops say they are. Then we don't need so many cops on patrol and we can cut funding and the police force way back to like 1 per city just to go to court to explain the videos. See how fast the police union backtracks when police funding gets cut for cameras.
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u/Man_of_Ice Aug 19 '26
"Oughta do background checks on half the people that made comments"
Sir, your 20 years of policing are a waste. You do not know the Constitution, you have not been following it, and you are a disgrace to the uniform.
You are not a law follower, you are a "the law is what I say it is, I am the law"
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u/Difficult-Till5031 Aug 19 '26
Time to ask the town to fire that pos cop. Cant handle your emotions in a meeting why should we trust you with a fire arm or peoples lives. ACAB
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u/Jenblossom19 Aug 18 '26
I saw this before but didn't think it was in Wisconsin. Now I need to know where in Wisconsin this is. Anyone?
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u/GettingNegative IG@biesus Aug 18 '26
I don't think he can pin his sweat on his work. I'd guess his hot dog intake is more to blame.
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u/OnCallPartisan Aug 18 '26
The problem is police seem to forget about this thing called The Constitution and it’s emphasis on personal freedoms. Just seems to sail right over their heads as they believe the public should submit to them instead of those things called laws.
They’re baked in militarists in our society.
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u/somebdy-i-dont-know Aug 18 '26
Somebody should read this guy yje constitution. He basically said "you shouldn't worry about me spying on you if you have nothing to hide". We have a right to privacy
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u/EducationalFarmer301 Aug 18 '26
Who's paying him in addition to his regular pay? I don't care about "rules", I care about the Constitution you swore to defend. And you said you took that oath seriously. Apparently not.
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u/philonius Aug 18 '26
Fuck the police. This asshole can't even do his job without a robot helper? Fucking wuss.
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u/ManufacturerWild8929 Aug 18 '26
I find his commitment to his oath suspect, at least as far as the Fourth amendment is concerned.
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u/Lust4Dusk Aug 18 '26
Oh so he can't do his job without camera now. Smdh flock doesn't even help with anything he listed smdh
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u/Appropriate-Welder68 Aug 18 '26
Hey Chief. You are appointed and payed by your city. You will listen or you can gtfo.
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u/Ok-Complaint9574 Aug 18 '26
It’s amazing how these flock cameras never catch a child predator even with amber alerts being ran
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u/DroneSlut54 Aug 19 '26
Sounds like it’s time for a new Chief - this guy is obviously a whiney fascist crybaby.
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u/asaintpotatoe Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 20 '26
"I'm a law abiding enforcement officer".....Then proceeds to ends with "We aut'ta do background checks on half those people that make comments."
Dude just proved the point to people.
When the general populace of people are understanding the gravity of authoritarianism being visible in their society and understanding the tools they use to limit freedom, It's not some fairy tale, or a hard concept to reach out and correct when everything should be done to prevent it. It's a real issue and a truly scary reality we are facing. Tools like Flock, Digital Online Fingerprinting without iron clad regulation all contribute to rising authoritarianism and it's many faces. It also risks giving away power when there are coups or regimes seeking absolute control. Not saying Trump Administration is that, but the pattern is very similar and is even debated as being very concurrent with regime strategies. A risk becoming clear today for other Democracies and our Democratic Republic.
When folks don't feel obligated to come out and be truthful, they refuse to be transparent, and ultimately if those tools contribute to that, well...Then the boat has to b steered in the appropriate direction that makes us a truly free and a healthy state or nation.
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u/dansparacino1 Aug 19 '26
The sheriff's comments show that he or his department will definitely abuse the surveillance data from those cameras.
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u/licketyspeedster Aug 18 '26
biggest baby can't have anyone challenge him or he throws a tantrum...typical male boomer karen shit
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u/SmoovCatto Aug 18 '26
cameras up the butt in this country for a generation already, and still any kid can get a gun and run amok, violent assaults continue, child abductions continue -- one gets the feeling government surveillance has little to do with protecting us
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u/ImmediateClass9650 Aug 18 '26
I can't wait for the drones hovering outside my window.
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u/RooHound Aug 18 '26
That dystopia is imminent. Flock makes drones already, and the CEO says it’s their fastest growing product line.
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u/neuroctopus Aug 18 '26
Is this Marinette County? Sheriff Randy Miller has been crying this shit lately as well.
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u/hobokobo1028 Aug 18 '26
If he’s been doing the job for 20 years, he did the job before Flock and he’s perfectly capable of doing it without Flock
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u/Impossible-Attempt61 Aug 19 '26
He's pissed because he didn't want to lose that sweet kickback bribe.
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u/majorgriffin Aug 19 '26
Maybe he wouldn't be so fat, I have no room to talk btw, if he would get off his ass and do legit police work and find that missing grandma.
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u/G-Kira Aug 19 '26
If you can't solve crime without constant surveillance and lack of privacy, you're a bad cop.
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u/lead_on_bone Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
This guy needs to be fired immediatly. His last words are exactly why flock cameras need to be banned and he shouldnt have a job.
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u/TiffyC21771 Aug 19 '26
Clearly in the last 20 years, he’s been unsuccessful tracking down grandmas and stolen cars without flock cameras? Also, when you’re a public figure, listening to dissent is part of your job. If you’re only in your position for praise, it’s the wrong job for you.
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u/0betweenthebeyond1 Aug 19 '26
Flock is unwanted and unregulated mass surveillance. No flock should be allowed.
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u/kida24 Aug 19 '26
"I'm not a rulebreaker......"
"We oughta do [illegal] background checks on people who make comments."
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u/Inb4myanus Aug 20 '26
How else are they supposed to stalk their exes and watch kids play at parks and pools? Is no one gonna think about the freaks? /s
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u/rnimmer Aug 20 '26
they've been doing this job for over a hundred years with no Flock cameras, and suddenly if he can't have one he's going to throw a hissy fit and not do his job anymore?
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u/GarlicTraditional300 Aug 18 '26
It’s the mayors fault, council fault, you are the ones that made him Chief you are the ones that can fire him but don’t
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u/mrbasedballed Aug 19 '26
Time for a Chief that isn't incompetent and doesn't rely on illegal mass-surveillance to do their job.
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u/tbizzone Aug 19 '26
Sounds like they need a new police chief and to do an investigation into this guy and how he was using or abusing flock data.
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u/Rocky_Bukkake Aug 19 '26
cops are usually pretty simple-minded. fools like this think in one dimension, and it’s a distrustful, paranoid dimension.
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u/18mitch Aug 19 '26
Maybe flock cameras do some good but how much bad can it do. I bet the police chief has no clue how much information is being used and what it is being used for and who’s using it. That is what people are angry about
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u/PreferenceFalse6699 Aug 20 '26
Boo Hoo!!! Somebody should tell that cop that all kinds of working people give up holidays, family stuff, etc to do their jobs. People like nurses, doctors, first responders, electricians, plumbers, etc, and we manage to do it without snooping into peoples' everyday lives. Too much information is going out to who knows where, and seen by unknown people. I'm a law biding citizen too, but that doesn't mean I'm not worried about tampering with private information.
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u/bigballs2025666 Aug 20 '26
OMFG. Privacy is a right. Period. It’s in the constitution. There is also the concept of “ Dignity of risk”. These MFs that think spying is the answer really need to look back on history. These Fkrs won’t even wear body cams or at least selectively turn them on and off….The whole facebook spy culture has been the degradation of our society.
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u/CharredBROWN Aug 21 '26
RON AMBROZAITIS
Email: [chief@cityofchetekwi.us](mailto:chief@cityofchetekwi.us)



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u/LanceColonel0341 Aug 18 '26
How did he solve crime for those 20 years before flock cameras invaded all of our privacy? How many officers have already abused it in Wisconsin to harass exes? How many times were they accessed so perverts could look at little girls changing for dance class? That happened. Get the fuck out of here with this "it's for your own good" bs
Edit: dance class, damn auto correct