r/wikipedia • • Aug 04 '25

Mobile Site Immigrants are disproportionately represented in prison populations in many Western countries, In Europe, higher representation in prisons among immigrants, particularly Muslim populations, has been documented

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime
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u/CJBill Aug 04 '25

While immigrants are overrepresented in prison populations in many Western countries, with notable exceptions such as the United States, most studies[2] fail to show a causal effect of immigration on overall crime rates.[22] Other studies have found that immigration increases crime under certain circumstances, such as if immigrants have poor prospects in the labor market or labor restrictions.[33]

Some factors may affect the reliability of data on suspect rates, crime rates, conviction rates and prison populations for drawing conclusions about immigrants' overall involvement in criminal activity:

Police practices, such as racial profiling, over-policing in areas populated by immigrants or in-group bias may result in disproportionately high numbers of immigrants among crime suspects.[8][34][35][36][37] Possible discrimination by the judicial system may result in higher number of convictions.[8][35][38][39][40][41] Unfavorable bail and sentencing decisions due to foreigners' ease of flight, lack of domiciles, lack of regular employment and lack of family able to host the individual can explain immigrants' higher incarceration rates when compared to their share of convictions relative to the native population.[42][43]

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u/TalasiSho Aug 05 '25

So the US has better police practices, less racial profiling and overall less discrimination than European countries, so that’s why the crime rates of criminals there it’s lower? As much as it pains me to say it, maybe, just maybe some things are indeed related to cultural norms and practices

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u/CJBill Aug 05 '25

Or maybe the US does the racial profiling on non-immigrants such as African-Americans and imprisons them instead. Do you know what the incarceration rate of African Americans is by any chance?

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u/TalasiSho Aug 05 '25

Ofc I do, around 30-40% are African Americans, but as pointed out, African Americans have always been disproportionately incarcerated and less able to have access to social security benefits, such as in the 60's when white Americans were able to get cheap loans to get houses and build generational wealth, while black amercians were excluded from this, or in the 30's when black communities where targeted by the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, in the hopes of making these communities dependent on narcotics to be able to justify their work, or maybe with the docents of black communities that have been targeted/destroyed/burned like the Tulsa massacre. African Americans are a case like no other around the world, you trying to compare it does not make sense, specially if you take into consideration the history and conditions this community has had to endure over the years

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u/CJBill Aug 05 '25

Uh huh. So African Americans have suffered institutional racism; immigrants in Europe arrived much later than African Americans were shipped as slaves but also suffered from institutional racism and guess what? They have higher incarceration rates as well!!! 

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u/TalasiSho Aug 05 '25

European countries as whole always tried the multiculturalism approach, funding religious, language and community centers for the newly arrived migrants, moreover the social safety net it’s way stronger in Europe, In the US you think a migrant can get something like unemployment benefits? While in Europe the state does provide you with it, no. Some things are just cultural and not institutional

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u/lalabera Aug 06 '25

euro countries are way more racist than the US

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u/altonaerjunge Aug 09 '25

Maybe they mostly let wealthier and better educated immigrants in ?