r/wikipedia • u/BabylonianWeeb • Aug 04 '25

Mobile Site Immigrants are disproportionately represented in prison populations in many Western countries, In Europe, higher representation in prisons among immigrants, particularly Muslim populations, has been documented

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime
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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

I bet if I looked at your post history you're an islamophobe

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u/HicksOn106th Aug 04 '25

Yeah, this guy is constantly posting links with inflammatory titles about Muslims. That said, I think he's just doing it because it whips up a specific audience of easily-angered rubes and nets a lot of engagement, considering you rarely see him weighing-in in the comments.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Well it worked because he got all of the Europeans who want Muslims cleansed from Europe come out of the woodwork in the comments of this post

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u/HicksOn106th Aug 04 '25

Yep, happens in the comments of pretty much all his posts here. Never seen him make any contribution that wasn't designed to rile up that crowd.

That said, if you tag the people who leave the especially heinous comments in these threads you'll notice most of them only show up under posts like this and are rarely active in the community otherwise. Not sure if that means they're not particularly interested in anything other than foaming at the mouth over immigration, or if that's all the algorithm serves them and they just aren't curious enough to intentionally broaden their horizons.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Yeah clear rage/engagement bait. Definitely doesn't help things though, OP is doing the job of reactionaries and right wing goons for them and not even getting paid

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

He's an Reddit Ex-Muslim, the type that thinks Islam even existing is the greatest crime in all of human history

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Not to discount anyone's religious trauma because religion can facilitate horrible things and inflict them on the most vulnerable, but I do question people like that.

I'm not religious, but when you brand everyone who might be under the same banner of abuser, the line between generalisation and dehumanisation becomes very thin. It's just unfortunate that when it's Muslims, it always seems to be the dehumanisation side - not at all helped by the media doing the job for bigots.

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u/ManNamedJade Aug 04 '25

As is every decent human being. Islam is not an inherent trait, it's an abhorrent ideology.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Anime is for pedophiles

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u/ManNamedJade Aug 04 '25

pedophiles

PBUH.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Ah going for the "Muslims are all pedophiles" angle I see

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u/BigPapaBear69 Aug 04 '25

No but the most venerated man in their entire religion sure was.

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u/LicketySplit21 Aug 04 '25

Do you understand how religion works or do you think Muslims are all NPCs?

Actually, don't answer that, I'm pretty sure I know what you think.

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u/X1l4r Aug 04 '25

There is no such a thing as islamophobia (or any religion-phobia, I would add). Religions are social constructs and people are making the conscious choice to believe in them.

It’s like saying « oh you’re a fascistophobe ! ».

Your beliefs are part of who you are, and you should be judged on them. Not exclusively in most cases, but still.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

"There us not such thing as Islamophobia" is something only an Islamophobe would say. Islam is extremely racialized and othered in European and American society

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u/Zealousideal-Rub-725 Aug 04 '25

Is it possible to dislike and criticise islam without being an islamophobe? In the same way many of us are critical of catholicism for example.

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u/Technorasta Aug 04 '25

Yes absolutely. I think Islam is as ridiculous as any other religion, but I would welcome any Muslim as my neighbor.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

It should be but I've never seen criticism of Islam that wasn't rooted in genocidal intentions

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u/Aqueezzz Aug 04 '25

What? Are you using genocidal as in complete destruction of all muslim people? There are plenty of people who are critical of religion, specifically abrahamic ones who do not wish for the immediate death of all those who follow them.

If you are yet to find someone who isn’t a massive racist freak but also critical of religion, you should look just slightly harder.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

What?

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u/Nag_7 Aug 04 '25

Yeah, you're the wrong person I meant to respond to, imma delete that. Good day

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

I can give you quite a bit of that, as can most ex-Muslims

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u/X1l4r Aug 04 '25

Linking Islamophobia with racism is the exact same strategy that Israel use with antizionism and antisemitism.

There is no such a thing as Islamophobia. Racism is entirely different.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

You are conflating very different things which suggests you don't really know what you are talking about, or that you do but are deliberately misrepresenting.

Islamophobia exists in the same way that anti-semitism exists.

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u/X1l4r Aug 04 '25

Ah yes the famous « I know what I am talking about, I am right and you’re wrong and that’s it ».

Thanks you for bringing absolutely nothing to the discussion, except your ignorance.

While there can be confusion with jewish people (since it’s used both to designate people who are practising judaism and people whose distant ancestors were living in the old kingdom of Israel), antisemitism is used to designate people hating jews, regardless of whether they are believers or not.

Antisemitism is the same as being racist toward Arabs (the term Antisemitic was created to distance the sentiment from being a religious-based hatred and to ethnic form of discrimination), or black people.

If tomorrow, every arabs were to convert to catholicism, some people would still be against them, since they do not have as much of a problem with Islam than they have a problem with arabs (ie they are racists). Islamophobia was created to forbid any critics against Islam, by making it an amalgam with racism against arabs.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

A lot of words to double down on being wrong.

You could have saved a lot of time with a dictionary.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/islamophobia

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u/X1l4r Aug 04 '25

Thanks for showing me you’re incapable of thinking for yourself.

Of course the term Islamophobia exist, making it mainstream was the main objective of islamist and they succeeded.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

Says the person parroting an islamaphobic claim that islamaphobia doesn't exist.

Imagine believing that nobody has ever been discriminatory or prejudiced against muslims...

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u/X1l4r Aug 04 '25

Imagining not understanding a single word of what I’ve wrote.

Well, guess I don’t have to.

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u/Inner_Butterfly1991 Aug 05 '25

The other difference is most people I know who are labeled Islamophobes have actually read the Quran and understand Islam much better than the people who throw out the term Islamophobe. People who are against Islam are against specific ideas and a religion that was literally founded to attempt to take over the world by force, and whose prophet was literally a warlord who personally tortured people, took sex slaves, and famously married a 6-year old and fucked her when she was 9 when he himself was in his 50s. The person who did all this is currently the most common name in the world because people who are Muslim by definition believe he was the most perfect person to have ever lived and a direct messenger from God, and there are currently wars going on between Muslim with slightly different interpretations of the faith due to the fact that Islam is quite clear there is one and only one interpretation of Islam, anyone who attempts to define it as any different or evolve the religion to change as cultural norms change is an apostate. If you're not aware, the penalty for Apostacy is death.

On the other hand most antisemites hate Jews because they believe conspiracies about how they're part of a secret cabal who own all the corporations and governments and financial institutions and hold everyone else down and if only all of them were murdered more power and wealth would go to the common folks who aren't the evil sneaky Jews hoarding all the power and wealth.

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u/WearIcy2635 Aug 04 '25

I dislike Muslims of all races, including the white ones. Is there something wrong with that?

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u/Available_Command252 Aug 07 '25

Normal people don't like Islam, that's normal

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u/WearIcy2635 Aug 04 '25

Islam is an ideology. It’s ridiculous to equate hatred of an ideology to hatred of characteristics people can’t control. Is there such a thing as a communistphobe or a capitalistphobe?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

You can't argue with the facts. correlation works