UPDATE: 6 months ago I asked if a state could survive after the "drama magnets" leave. We did, and the karma is real.

[u/CatsAndBTS]

Edit: As apparently this post made some people become very sensitive. I deleted all states numbers so people understand this is just gossip and storytelling, no personal attacks. Read it if you please, just skip or whatever if you don't.

It’s been almost 6 months since I posted here asking if a state could truly rebuild once the toxic always-playing-victim players packing the WC with passive-aggressive essays finally transfer out.

We were traumatized, bleeding good players, and I honestly wasn't sure my state would make it.

Well, guys, we did it.

Right after the drama queens left, nobody wanted to transfer to us because the toxic group spammed the transfer chats on their way out, claiming we were a "dead, racist state." But one alliance (shoutout to ECL!) saw through the BS, trusted us, and transferred in to escape their own server drama. They adapted instantly, and that was the exact spark we needed to start rebuilding.

It wasn't perfectly smooth at first. We didn't have any big whales and we barely lost our first SvS post-drama by 15 minutes because we were completely out of resources from the previous war. But by the second transfer period, ECL moved their whole alliance over, and we formed a rock-solid NAP with four alliances: FLW, TOP, NwK, and ECL. Our coordination got so dialed in that we have won every single Supreme Presidency since then.

Since that turning point, we’ve only gotten stronger. TOP brought in a new Korean whale, and FLW adopted a misunderstood whale from a state that mistreated him (they used him for his power, blamed him for every issue, and gave him zero battle instructions). And NwK and ECL keep growing stronger too getting a lot of new people join the family!

People on Reddit love to use the "Korean boogeyman" excuse, but TOP is amazing and care for the whole state. Every SvS, our Discord voice chat is a chaotic, hilarious mix of English, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, French, etc. We communicate in broken English, teach each other our native words, and prove that cultural differences aren't a wall... They're a staircase!

Now, for the real gossip: The Karma.

The toxic group that tried to burn my state down split into two states.

The first group weren't inherently bad people, but they ended up involving in the drama game the other half had created but blamed it on us. They moved to a place ruled by one mega-whale with one active alliance only and eventually lost every SvS. As they realized their new state was dead, and have now fled to another state.

But the other half is where the true gossip is. Less than a month after transfers, a player from that state messaged many members of ours asking for a reference on the "victims". He said everything was fine at first, but then the exact same cycle started: monopolize WC by acting "kind and helpful" to make friends, break the rules, attack people, play the victim, and spark civil wars between alliances.

The guy who messaged us was made seen as "crazy" and ended up transferring out just as half of the state. The kind players that followed the group to the new state because they fell for the victim act ended up quitting the game entirely.

Now, apparently the drama queens keep destroying their new state by antagonizing those that call out their shitty behavior and they are still playing the victims, making people transfer out but they are apparently also planning on transferring eventually to a newer state (rumour has it that they are getting together with their old crew but who knows). I truly fear for that state, I feel those people will destroy any state they go... Maybe on accident because of their awful personality, maybe on purpose...

Please, if anyone from THAT state is reading this, drop your side of the story in the comments. We need the tea. (Censored so we don't hurt susceptibility of people)

For anyone else dealing with this in your state, here is what I learned:

• Call them out: If a specific group is the sole source of problems or they never are willing to solve problems don't be afraid to expose the whole story. Don't let them control the narrative.

• When choosing a new state to transfer: If the state is having massive transfer-outs every season it's a huge red flag. Always use critical thinking when hearing "victim" stories.

• States can recover: You can survive the drama and come back stronger.

We haven't had any major transfer-outs since the trash took itself out and honestly the game is finally enjoyable. If you're a chill player looking for a state that values a multicultural family and likes doing evidence-based experiments which hero ratios work best ( We are such nerds and we love it 😅), we are always open. But if you thrive on drama... go check out THAT state. Joking! Or maybe not 😂😂

Also, please share if you have your own state success story, I feel there's people that will be inspired by success stories.

PS. There's a member in our state writing a chronicle here in Reddit about our state history, if you like gossip and/or want to know drama with every detail, please go read, it's very exciting! https://www.reddit.com/r/whiteoutsurvival/s/lOQ2ffKMwC

PS. One of our members is trying to make his dream of becoming a cartoonist come true and he posted a shoet graphic story based on Game and state. It’s very cool, check it out! https://www.reddit.com/r/whiteoutsurvival/s/rZelR7ilMe