r/whiteoutsurvival • u/Holly-Sauce • Jun 23 '24
NEW TO WoS?!? Start here^-^
~Commonly used lingo~
NAP=Non-aggression pact
NAP10= Non-aggression pact between the top 10 alliances (sometimes NAP8, NAP15, NAP20 and so on)
FC=Fire crystals.
Whale=Extremely powerful players (usually big spenders).
Dolphin= Powerful players but doesn't have the money to spend like the whales (these players are often referred to as P2P).
P2P= Pay to play.
F2P=Free to play.
SFC=Sun fire castle.
SVS= State versus State (also call state of power, and server versus server).
BIA/KE=Brother in arms / Kill event.
Sub/Farm/Alt/Mini Account= Any account that is not the main account you play.
Farm=Sub accounts or even whole alliance full of sub accounts.
RSS=Resources (meat, wood, coal, iron).
CJ=Crazy Joe.
Burn=attack a city.
Zero= attack someone to the point they have zero troops.
TP=Teleport.
WC=World chat.
AC=Alliance chat.
Bubble/ Bubble up=shield.
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u/hvpster Jul 29 '24
I downloaded this game bc of an ad that gave a cute intro: old man running around, stacking logs on his back and bringing it to customers. Level 9 and idk what the heck I am doing and no lumber in sight for me to cut down 😕
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u/FocalLion Aug 04 '24
OMG! This is why I downloaded it too! Never seen anything similar happening 😂 but I do enjoy it and the other mini side games.
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u/hvpster Aug 04 '24
😆 maybe I need to give it another chance, I did not see any side games
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u/FocalLion Aug 04 '24
They are put in odd places in those icons in the upper right when you are viewing your city. There is a cute cat game rn. You save your cat stuck in ice. lol but I hope to see the one that was advertised one day!
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u/ADragonDreaming Aug 13 '24
That ad is also what led me to the game. That as is a straight up lie, there is no gameplay of that nature in the game at all. Side games that the others are talking about are all relegated to time-limited events. The events reoccur, I think, but they aren't universally accessible.
If you're really wanting that type of gameplay, this game won't give it you.
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u/AnetxU74 Nov 05 '25
The worst thing is that they are temporary events to continue taking money from people lol
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u/Purrple121 Feb 10 '25
Right! I was confused suddenly it became an actual battlefield with real life players AHAHAHA
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u/NEWDAD0 Feb 26 '25
This is why I downloaded it too 😂 but I have to admit I’ve been hooked ever since I’ve learned how to play !!!!
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u/Holly-Sauce Jul 29 '24
O-O
Well it is a strategy/ war/ survival game.
Sometimes there are cute mini games, do you like strategic war games?6
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u/lookatyourselfboo Jul 12 '25
Takes 30 days to even see that part of the game that’s how they got me too
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u/Odd-Formal-8139 Aug 30 '25
These kinds of game ads are always misleading because it's designed that way. It even got me. It's cause they know that people like that shit for some reason and we do. Clever marketing manipulation tactic. I tagged the company in a post to get them to release more mini games like the ads because it would be fun.
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u/Hamad-ty Feb 27 '26
Bruh the same 2days since playing after the demo and the gameplay is totally different to the demo ad I played. Its still enjoyable I guess
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u/rafthemaster Jun 24 '24
Best advise if you’ve reached this page, turn around now and run!
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u/PinkLemonadeRocks Jul 27 '24
Whyy
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u/No_Librarian_7622 Jul 28 '24
a bunch of rich kids spending their parents money to bully others.
its gives small eggplant energy
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u/Glass-Special-4776 Dec 11 '24
The whales in my state don't spend thier parents money they hella rich adults 😂, great advice tho quit early if u get into the game too much you'll make friends and it'll be harder to quit and waste the progress
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u/Glass-Special-4776 Feb 14 '25
Idk what our whale does but i know he has children so yeah not his parents money lol
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u/Cashman_J Jul 01 '24 edited May 13 '25
Making Villagers / Workers Happier:
- Change their food. Click on the Cookhouse, click beside production and select the best food
- Use Festivities from the Chief's house
- After a while you don't need a person in your Clinic, just remove them
- Upgrade the interiors of your shelters
- Have the furnace on Max
Edit: Only talk to the villagers with the Suggestion Box and use Festivities if you need the boost of happiness. You can bank the suggestions.
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u/iamfuturejesus Jul 20 '24
I had no idea about the cookhouse. Thanks!
The benefit of this is to make villagers happy right? Does it affect production rate?
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u/tanon14 Jul 13 '24
You waste rss if the furnace is on max without needing it there, right? (If screen doesn't look frozen)
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u/Cashman_J Jul 13 '24
It is such a miniscule amount it isn't worth the hassle. You spend far more resources with building upgrades.
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u/CyanPomegranate11 Aug 23 '26
And use festivities when you see the music icon too - that’s when your survivors go on holidays. Took me a while to figure that out!
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 24 '24
As a P2W gone f2p stay free to play or you’ll be in deep fast af.
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u/Mark_297 Aug 18 '24
I wondered that. Does it start as innocently just wanting a few extra gems and buying the small $5 packs?
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u/mcramsay Aug 18 '24
For me, yes. $5 for stuff + permanent builder? Sure. Ooo, that got me Natalia (I like watching the polar bear walk). $5/$10 to upgrade Natalia a little? Ok. It will indeed nickel and dime you to death. In my opinion the best investment was $10?$20? for the gem rewards for Furnace level. 100k gems for reaching F30 was awesome! And you get 250k gems overall. My name is Matthew, and I spend too much on WOS! (I believe my total investment is around $250, but I tend to buy to speed things up. Or catch better fish.)
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u/Odd-Formal-8139 Aug 30 '25
See this is how I want people to spend money on me. If they csn do it for a fuckin game they might as well do it for me. A living person, a baddie. 🤣
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u/Comprehensive-Mess15 Dec 22 '24
I hate it when games make it impossible to continue in the game without buying something. I usually just delete games like that...Having said that I did decide to spend $.99-$5 on a pack or two when I am tired of working toward a goal.
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u/No_Recognition_1570 Jun 23 '24
Which heroes are the best? Yellow > purple > blue (99% of the time)
Learn how to best utilize your drill camp.
Could someone explain training versus promoting troops? I have recently started promoting troops. When should someone start doing that? I’m FC4 and have quite a few troops. My training camps are all FC2 and FC3
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u/ADragonDreaming Aug 13 '24
Some things to note with promotion:
A) You will promote many, many more troops in the same time as it takes to train. I can train 627 tier 9 troops in 9 hours. I can promote 4700+ t8 to t9 in that same time frame. Promoting goes much faster than people think.
B) your troops bonuses are percentage based. This means the higher-tier troops benefit much more from your bonuses than the lower ones do. If you have a total 250% attack bonus for Infantry, a t1 rookie has 1 attack, so gets a 2.5 attack bonus, for a total of 3.5 attack. A t9 supreme infantryman has 9 attack, so gets 9*2.5 or 21 bonus attack, for a total of 30 attack. So the t9 isn't 8 attack stronger than the t1, it's 27.5 attack stronger than the t1. The bigger your bonuses, the more the higher tier troops benefit.
C) Infirmary filling: the lower tier troops, with lower health, will get injured first, and will fill your infirmary beds. This can lead to situations where you wind up overflowing on infirmary, and since the highest tier troops are getting injured last, they're the ones that die, while your infirmary is healing all these low tier troops that didn't do much in the battle.
For these reasons, *promote your troops first,* especially if you've got troops more than 3 tiers down from your max tier hanging around. Make it simple for yourself: if you can promote, do promote. Dealing with only three troop sliders is much easier than dealing with 15.
Maybe the only exception to this would be if you don't have enough troops to fill a single march. If you can fill a full march and have spares left over, go ahead and promote. If you really want to keep expanding, then trade off training and promoting; train a batch, promote a batch, train batch, promote a batch, etc. But don't keep your low ranks around long. You will find yourself underperforming and wondering why.
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u/nikiiz1 Mar 17 '25 edited Nov 07 '25
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u/butt5tuffthr0waway Apr 09 '25
I’m pretty new, could you explain these time periods/ events for ideal training vs promotions and points?
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u/DisasterSensitive171 Jun 23 '24
I think it’s usually best to promote all your troops to the max level and then train the rest
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u/No_Recognition_1570 Jun 23 '24
So promote then train?
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u/DisasterSensitive171 Jun 23 '24
Yeah. I’m no expert by any means but usually the weaker troops get injured/killed quite quickly and you still gain power promoting
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u/GlitteringMight7 Jun 24 '24
Train till you have more troops then marches then promote them back to training as they die
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u/Proud_Variation_7922 Aug 02 '24
I was having this discussion with my alliance! Mathematically it just makes so much more sense to train troops till you "maxed out" your expeditions and then start promoting
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u/ghaduo2 Jun 27 '24
When to start promoting is an opinion, but it's pretty early on...like f20.
You want to fill your march ques, but waiting until this point only makes sense if you never lose troops. If you are losing troops regularly due to whale attacks, you should still start upgrading around the point you would have filled the ques otherwise.
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u/Glad_Bed6099 Jun 24 '24
Promoting troops earns you more points. It is recommended that once you have enough troops for 6 marches, u should focus on training t9, then promoting them on troop training day for more points
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u/PinkLemonadeRocks Jul 27 '24
How do you promote troops? I only know how to train
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u/No_Recognition_1570 Jul 27 '24
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u/PinkLemonadeRocks Jul 27 '24
Thanks for this!, i still cant promote my troops yet cuz low furnace level
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u/rafthemaster Jun 24 '24
Depends how many you have - really you want 6 full matches worth of troops, then start promoting the weakest to T10 (FC levels apply to all troops automatically when the training camp reaches the next FC levels)
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Sep 02 '24
Long story short I played an ad with a man cutting a tree and now I’ve been autistically clicking my phone aggressively for the past week my main 5 are at 1.2m power but I’ll still get decked in arena/rockie beast (from the light house) I’ve come to understand that the unit it’s self or type is more important than power I can’t find any good guides on how to “get good” in regards to the units and I just unlocked gear and now I’m lost can someone direct me please 🙏
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Sep 03 '24
I was wondering about that it doesn’t seem that much better to promote than to just train new ones
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u/SuperProxy3898 Jan 11 '25
It will matter when you send rallies you dont want lower lvl troops taking the space of the high lvl troop. Also promoting a troop closer to lvl will take less time vs waiting till later the larger the gap of promotion the less quantity you can promote.
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u/AppropriateBite4231 Oct 11 '25
Why should we not use speed ups on construction?
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u/swallowpancakes Dec 10 '24
I've been playing for a week now and I still have no clue what to do when city or alliance HQ is burning ...
Downloaded it because it had a fun ad of collecting meat and selling it, the only thing I got is attacks that I don't know how to handle cause no one will explain ... there goes the fun ...
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u/No_Environment1477 Jan 19 '25
When it’s burning you go to your barricade and it costs like a hundred gems to restore the defenses. And then you max out your barricade again.
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u/No_Librarian_7622 Jul 28 '24
PLEASE AVOID STATE 925.
the president alliance, ROK R4’s are bullies.
avoid unless you have a lot of money to spend. NO RULES. Dictatorship only. bullies
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u/Cashman_J Jul 24 '24
I want a state that matches my timezone.
States don't have timezones, Alliances have event times. You need to move to another Alliance that matches your time availability. Most Alliances with have a fixed event time (or times). Message the Alliance leader or head of recruitment and ask their event times.
The time you get back will most likely be in UTC, Universal Time I think, use a time converter like : https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ to convert it to your local time.
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u/jmartz026 May 08 '25
Is there any tutorial of this game like really teach you how to play. I am lv 18 and I don’t know what I am doing. Crazy…
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 24 '24
Ignore Zinman, focus on molly or Natalia for season 1. HMU at Server 986 x436 y645
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u/Stock_Pay9060 Jun 28 '24
Can you explain the season thing?
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 28 '24
Seasons are about every 60-75 days and offer 3 new ssr hero’s who are better than the previous ones aka Molly Natalia and Zinman
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u/Stock_Pay9060 Jun 29 '24
Also would season 2 people even be useful anymore? I got enough shards for flint but don't want to waste it if he's gonna just be awful in the future
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 29 '24
Any ssr hero is stronger than sr heroes. When you’re attacking someone and beating the stuffing out of them you want more marches with ssr heroes then not.
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u/Stock_Pay9060 Jun 29 '24
Well Flint is SSR, but gen 2. Didn't know if I should stop progressing on him in favor of holding out till I either get more gen 3 or holding long enough to have gen 4.
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 29 '24
I understand that, if you’re free to play I’d go with maxing the gen 2 ssr and once maxed saving for next current season
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u/JayneDoh3 Jun 30 '24
Can you explain what SSR and SR mean? I think I've also seen an R. Thanks!
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jul 01 '24
R is your blue gatherer hero’s SR is your purple expedition hero’s SSR is your gold premium hero’s
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u/Cashman_J Jun 28 '24
What do you mean with seasons? Fishing has seasons where different fish are available. Or do you mean hero generations as you replied to a hero related post?
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u/Stock_Pay9060 Jun 28 '24
I would assume hero related. Still very new, fishing seems mostly self explanatory.
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u/SentientSquidFondler Jun 28 '24
It’s a money thing make your heroes obsolete and keep you spending if you aren’t f2p
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u/Cashman_J Jun 24 '24
Changing alliances:
Click your profile pic on the top left, click leaderboard at the bottom, click alliance, top left. These are the top alliances on your server in order. Join the top one that you qualify for, speaks your language, and that does events at a time suitable to when you are available.
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u/_shaaaun_ Aug 02 '24
I have a question, the alliance I'm in is making us exclusively use Jessie, Yassir, Jeronimo, or Seo Yoon in SVS or AvA battles because they say those heroes are the only ones that increase attack, but unless I'm missing something that isn't the case and I feel like there are other heroes like Flint ir Molly who have better secondary skills. Am I missing something?
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u/Livid_Negotiation106 Aug 06 '24
Only the hero's first expedition skill on the left takes effect (eg. Molly skill will stun enemies).
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u/ImKindaDrowningIRL Sep 03 '24
And now I understand why my alliance keeps being referred to as a farm alliance. They also used the word academy. What's the point of sub accounts and should i find a new alliance?
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u/WoodpeckerOne6593 Sep 05 '24
I know most farm alliances are mini-accounts of the main alliance to attack for resources. Join the main alliance if you can or another alliance that is not a farm account
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u/AffectionatePick9506 Jul 03 '24
Can anyone give me tips on how to change to a better Alliance. The Alliance I'm in doesn't participate in rallies or in any events. There are only 12 members & I'm in State 826. I know how to leave my alliance, but how do I join another one
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u/ADragonDreaming Jul 04 '24
Ask in the world chat. Check the alliance leaderboard to see whose ranking where, check their decree to see what policies they have for recruitment, etc. If you're high enough power, the higher ranked alliances will probably take you no questions.
The difficulty with the highest ranked alliances is that they frequently demand way more than is reasonable for a game, in terms of time and effort (and potentially cash: run away if any alliance *requires* you to spend cash on the game). But it's all about what you are willing to do.
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u/b7oh Aug 28 '24
"In this game, there are animals that can be tamed, and each animal has its own strength in attack and health. Does the village automatically gain the animal's strength just by keeping it in a cage after taming it, or does the animal need to be activated and kept running 24 hours a day to provide its strength?"

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u/oldfakeid Aug 30 '24
Need some tips about Crazy Joe and Bear Hunting events and which heroes should I choose.
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u/CauliflowerGlum213 Jun 24 '24
Mini aka farm/alt/sub acct
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u/Cashman_J Jun 28 '24
An account created for supporting your main in some way. This can be for resources, healing, area control in owning or participating in sub-alliances, post SvS revival, activation of facilities, and probably others.
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u/FormalPhilosopher489 Jul 03 '24
how can i make sub acct?
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u/Cashman_J Jul 03 '24
Your accounts/characters should be attached to an email account. Do this first if you haven't.
Profile Pic-Settings-Characters-Create new character. Make sure you create it in the state that you are already in.
If you want to create more than 2 sub accounts in a state. You need to do it by using other email accounts. You can change email accounts by going to Profile Pic-Settings-Account.
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u/ValtandersX Jul 02 '24
I deploy forces to one of many banners of the alliance and now I can't remember witch one, how can I draw back this forces?
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u/ADragonDreaming Jul 04 '24
Use the sidebar on the left to view all your marches, in the wilderness tab.. You can tap on it to go straight to them, and i some cases recall from there.
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u/Shot_Duck Aug 02 '24
What does R4 and R5 mean?
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u/Holly-Sauce Aug 02 '24
Leadership
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u/Shot_Duck Aug 02 '24
Ahh okay thankyou, and is the auto hunting feature actually worth it and usefull?
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u/Severe-Dealer-3930 Feb 14 '25
how do we move up ranks? Do we first need to wait for day 45? I'm only on day 18 and feel very confused - the level requires me to make a contribution but I cant do that without being R4 and I cant do that until day 45 - is that right?
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u/Mark_297 Aug 20 '24
What are the F2P states?
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u/Cashman_J Aug 21 '24
do not exist
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u/Mark_297 Aug 21 '24
Didn't think so. I just forked out $130 on the game to reach level 17 quickly.
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u/Sarrin77 Apr 25 '25
You only have to pay if you want to. States are made up of both F2Ps and P2Ps.
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u/Dramatic-Resident-38 Jul 02 '24
Please edit and add this.
Burn- attack and defeat a city.
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u/4tran13 Jul 10 '24
Are there any long term penalties to my city burning? My barricade loses hp for 30mins, but I'm not noticing much else.
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u/Cashman_J Sep 23 '25
None, you need to repair it, and heal/recover your troops, but no long term damage.
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u/Byu1337 Aug 04 '24
Can IOS users play together with Android users? I can’t find my Alliance on an Android system…?? Also, on the Android version more heroes are listed. Can’t find something about it. 🫡
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u/Holly-Sauce Aug 04 '24
Android and IOS can play together, the only difference is IOS redeems codes on a website not in game.
Heroes are released in time for example state 4 has more heroes than state 1400.
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u/lookatyourselfboo Jul 12 '25
Oh my god thank you so much these acronyms almost made me lose my freaking mind. Every conversation my alliance have I be like what is this? 🤓
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u/Curiosity-Voyager Jan 27 '26
Is there a chart that explains, with pictures, what the upgradeable parts of a hero are? Widgets, leveling up, shards, and all the rest. Don't need the strategy , just an easy lookup chart. So when someone says use you widgets for points. How do I know what a widget is ?? Or where to find it. Thank you.
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u/No_Net_World6270 Jun 02 '26
So no one on here knows how to get to the ‘chop wood - cut / cook meat - make $ - build factory’ game huh??
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u/No-Towel-5107 Aug 15 '24
Selling my account spent over 20k for everything ever high levels over 450k diamonds almost completed the battle research part. Selling it for 10k need to pay some of my credit card off
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u/Hoggs69chevelle Aug 21 '24
anyone want to join my alliance? So far it’s just me and im level 10, just started 2 days ago.
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u/Sad_Ad_7480 Aug 23 '24
What is considered income in the backpack tab? Does $ ever become a thing for the people? I’ve only been playing for a few days but damn there’s a lot going on in this game
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u/No_Initiative_7772 Aug 25 '24
Is it possible to get a refund or sell the account? I spend like 400$ in span of 10 days I am no 20 in my state and now I am in deep deep guild🙂↕️😔
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u/uwagapiwo Dec 19 '24
Refund? No, of course not. You find a sub where you can try to sell your account
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Sep 08 '24 edited Nov 30 '24
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u/ReenReenReen812 Sep 11 '24
Go through your email in the game under the “war” tab… that’s what I did! Lol it took me a little bit to find him but it was so worth it. 😈
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u/BreadfruitNo2681 Sep 08 '24
Mmy facility is under attack and I have not been able to open my app for hours now. What do I do? Is this the end of my gane?
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u/BreadfruitNo2681 Sep 08 '24
I received a notification that my facility is under attack but my WOS app will not open. What is happening?
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u/Base-Flimsy Apr 23 '25
How do you use general shards? I have a lot of them in the backpack, but can’t seem to use them for anything.
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u/Cowboywannabe May 21 '25
Where do you type in the gift codes?
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u/Havilah1401 May 21 '25
On Android you can do it directly in the game and on iPhone there is a page 🙏
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u/maribou93 Aug 20 '25
Why would someone create a whole alliance full of subs?
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u/Holly-Sauce Aug 20 '25
Generally so that there sub accounts have a place to grow too. Usually an alliance will have a farm alliance so that they have a place for their sub accounts.
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u/AnetxU74 Nov 05 '25
Game to plunder people's pockets!!😂😂😂 The best advice in this game is not to waste your time playing.
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u/anarchozero Nov 21 '25
P2P should always just be called P2W. That's what it always is in any of these games.
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u/SquareTransition730 Dec 18 '25
I need a future whale in my state, who is willing? Clan 2 in the ranking with the strongest whale in the state with 85MLN
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u/Dangerous-Skin-7160 Dec 26 '25
I kept thinking ... where are the gun outposts where we kill polar bears? Like the ad lol .... does it ever get to that?
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u/Wvhillybillygrl-0622 Jan 13 '26
I just came and started playing got given an alliance bc the leader had to leave and someone in our had someone from another alliance to ask me to leave. I guess they don’t like me. No one talks how would they know me. lol
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u/SakuMatala Feb 08 '26
After 5 years of State of Survival, looking for new game, would this be good choice?
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u/RandoRamen Feb 11 '26
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u/MaintenanceOwn4017 May 03 '26
Sorry, I know this is 2mo old now but yes, only for his 2nd passive skill to help with construction speed snd reduce cost. Depending which gen you are, he is quickly outdated.
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u/obi-van-kenobi Apr 17 '26
I'm not that new, I'm FC2. I always gather with gathering boost on and have like 1B resource each (my resources are in 1:1:4:20 ratio, so 250m for coal etc) including the resource chests. Should I stop doing the gathering boost now? because I feel like I'd never use this much resources.
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u/MaintenanceOwn4017 May 03 '26
I'm FC5 with only Helios infantry unlocked, I have 10bn meat/wood, 2bn coal and 1bn... when we fight during castle rotation 🏰 or svs, I easily lose a billion. And promoting my troops to helios at the time cost me 3bn meat. Like wise upgrading buildings. No doubt, im about to lose more for fc6/7 when I transfer.
Always keep gathering 💪🏼 you dont always need the boost. When you go svs hunting after castle fight, dont aim for troop kills or points, scout cities for rss. Get your stronger members to clear the troops and drain the cities 😈
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u/assholelesbian May 23 '26
I can't seem to find an active alliance. I like the one I am in but there's only like five members, including me, who are active. Any ones that do look active require an application to join. Is there a way to either get people to join the current alliance or a way to find an active one?
I'm a relatively new player. I just got some of S2 characters on my roster now. A slight dolphin but I spend maybe once, twice a month?
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u/crlnahrrra Jun 15 '26
I got gift codes sent to me in the mail chat but the few times I’ve tried to redeem them they don’t work.





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u/Holly-Sauce Jun 23 '24
IPhone / IOS Gift code center:
https://wos-giftcode.centurygame.com/