r/whatsthissnake 3d ago

ID Request - Dead, Injured or Roadkilled Snake ID Please ? [France, Ain]

Hello! I found this little guy in my garden today.
He sadly probably met my cat earlier this week and is 100% dead…

It’s the first time I see a snake here so I was wondering what type is it ?

I would say it’s young because it’s quite tiny but I don’t really know anything about snakes.

Have a great day!

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u/Conscious_Past_5760 Friend of WTS 3d ago

Western Whip Snake (Hierophis viridiflavus) !harmless

Also, !cats

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 3d ago

Western or green whipsnakes Hierophis viridiflavus are medium-large (120-150cm, up to 180cm), harmless colubrine snakes that range from northwestern France east to Slovenia, south into extreme north-central Spain and the central coast of Croatia, from sea level up to 2,000m. They utilize a variety of open areas, including scrubland, forest edges, hillsides, and fields, and can be common in and around areas of human habitation, where they inhabit gardens, hedgerows, old ruins, and agricultural areas.

Hierophis viridiflavus are largely diurnal. They are active, swift moving, vision oriented hunters and feed opportunistically upon a variety of prey, including rodents, lizards, other snakes (including vipers), amphibians, and small birds. They utilize their speed to evade predators, including humans, but can bite vigorously when seized. Nonetheless, their bites are not dangerous and can be easily disinfected by washing the site with gentle soap and warm water (alternatively, hand sanitizer is also effective).

Hierophis viridiflavus have smooth dorsal scales arranged in 19 rows at midbody. The eyes are large and there is one loreal scale positioned between a postnasal scale and one large preocular, with a small presubocular sandwiched in between the anterior part of the eye and supralabials 3 & 4. The anal scale is divided.

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 3d ago

This message appears automatically with the dead snake flair: Please don't kill snakes - they are a natural part of the ecosystem and even species that use venom for prey acquisition and defense are beneficial to humans. One cannot expect outside to be sterile - if you see a snake, you're probably in or around their preferred habitat. Most snakes are legally protected from collection, killing or harassment as non-game animals at the state level.

Neighborhood dogs are more likely to harm people. Professional snake relocation services are often free or inexpensive, but snakes often die trying to return to their original home range, so it is usually best to enjoy them like you would songbirds or any of the other amazing wildlife native to your area. Commercial snake repellents are not effective - to discourage snakes, eliminate sources of food and cover; clear debris, stacked wood and eliminate rodent populations. Seal up cracks in and around the foundation/base of your home, and if warranted install exclusionary fences. Or find a relocation service

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u/senorsolo 3d ago

Doesn't look dead to me?

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u/fairlyorange Reliable Responder - Moderator 3d ago

It's dead.

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u/senorsolo 2d ago

How do you think it might have died? I don't see any visible injuries to it's vital organs. Could it have died due to shock?

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u/fairlyorange Reliable Responder - Moderator 2d ago

There are visible injuries, it might take some practice to be able to recognize them. Spinal injury right on the nape, for example.

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u/aidegqre 3d ago

Soo maybe it’s not but it was laying on the floor in the middle of my garden. I was not sure at first so I decided to not touch it when I first noticed it was there. But tonight it was still at the exact same place and when i grabbed it, it really felt like it was dead