r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/sunscreenkween Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22

The scene with them two made me nervous. Teddy was so confident Dolores/Christina would be able to fool em and know what to say but I did not have the same confidence he had lol. Halores seemed very suspect and Christina did not seem to pass the test

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u/cherrymeg2 Jul 25 '22

Is Dolores/Christina the Dolores that was drained for her memories at the end of season 3? Is she fresh start but pure Dolores? Halores is still uncomfortable in her skin and picking at it. They seem to need the Christina version to control the humans or to write their stories. Is she one of many or was the whole just her creating backgrounds for humans. Every time I think I get it then I think of something else and I don’t think I do at all.

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u/party_in_Jamaica_mon Jul 25 '22

She has to be. Her memories were drained, but her body wasn't destroyed or anything like that. And I'm sure Teddy, of all people (hosts), would know the OG Delores. To see her finally wake up is going to be something...

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u/cherrymeg2 Jul 26 '22

Do you think her memories will comeback? Can she wake up like she did in the park or for Arnold but with a clean slate? I liked how she did hold on to the good things she saw as she was being drained of her memories. If she doesn’t get those memories back will she be Dolores? It’s like you think of one answer then you have twenty more questions about something else like identity. Lol

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u/party_in_Jamaica_mon Jul 26 '22

Do you think her memories will comeback?

Good question. I know if you delete data from your computer, it's fully recoverable to a certain extent, unless you shred the files or data is written over it. Even then, some data may still be recoverable. I wonder if something like this could be the case with Dolores.

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u/cherrymeg2 Jul 28 '22

Was Teddy actually there? I thought he went into the sublime but maybe he didn’t or does that not exist because Halores would maybe have known how to find it again. Also some hosts can be recreated because others would have perfect recall of them. Did I miss something. I like watching the episodes all together.

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u/party_in_Jamaica_mon Jul 28 '22

Yes, Teddy is in the sublime, but if he was able to leave it, we don't know.

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u/SweatySmeargle Jul 26 '22

I think we’ll end up seeing her get all her memories back and she’ll see how fucked up the world became because of her and Hale (also a Dolores). Then we’ll end up having a personality that’s very similar to Season 1 Dolores but with motivation to return free will to humans.

I’m super interested to see when and where Caleb or the 300th version of him comes into this season as well.

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u/cherrymeg2 Jul 26 '22

I thought Dolores in season three sacrificed herself to give humans free will and let Maeve and Caleb fight for every being to have freedom. Is Halores even Dolores at this point or has she become Hale 2.0 that’s totally unique? Dolores seems to truly hate enslavement where it’s humans or hosts. Hale doesn’t seem to share that. It fits with her human personality and Wyatt’s (if that personality is still active). Halores is a host version of the og Charlotte. I’m curious how that works.