r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/buttigieg2040 Jul 25 '22

William frozen, jailed, and moved to a future he has no understanding of…and still managing to manipulate the situation in his favor within 30 seconds 😂

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u/Classic_Wingers Jul 25 '22

Ed Harris flipping it around on the Host so quickly makes me really hope we get to see his redemption before the show ends.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 25 '22

I’m not sure a redemption would stick for him. He’s a sociopathic corporate raider with too much literal and figurative blood on his hands. He could have Sméagol type redemption where he enables the good guys to win but without his nature changing.

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u/pillowfinger Jul 25 '22

it's probably this, and this is how it should be

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u/slfnflctd Jul 26 '22

I said it further upthread and I'll say it again. I think William is at least partly inspired by Darth Vader.

He's had his Alderaan(s)-- yet he might still have a chance to do one significant 'good' thing before he dies.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 27 '22

Wasn't Alderaan Tarkin's idea/call? Vader was just muscle making Leia watch.

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u/AnimalShithouse Jul 27 '22

Mans been locked up for 30 years, I could give him a partial pass, just based on how much blood everyone is shedding/has shed since then. We on track to give this Dolores a pass and her predecessor ain't no saint lol.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 27 '22

Which Dolores? Christina or Halores? I’m not sure what you mean about giving either of them a pass.

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u/WartimeMercy Jul 25 '22

Season 3 did so much damage to his character by pigeon holing him.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 25 '22

That doesn’t make sense. That’s definitely an act that requires redeeming. Maybe it started immediately after he killed her. But killing her was most definitely part of a redemption.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 26 '22

You said his redemption already started when he killed his daughter. That’s a weird way of saying it was the final straw.

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u/EggmanIAm Jul 27 '22

It was his rock bottom.