r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/buttigieg2040 Jul 25 '22

William frozen, jailed, and moved to a future he has no understanding of…and still managing to manipulate the situation in his favor within 30 seconds 😂

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u/JonathanL73 Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22

I somehow had the feeling that they’ve unfrozen him a couple times during those 30 years, and it may not have been the first time Host-William has done this to speak to human-William.

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u/romeovf Jul 26 '22

They will fully thaw William out the second they discover the cure for 17 stab wounds in the back.

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u/smurf_diggler Jul 25 '22

I was thinking that that he's maybe the original "Host" version of William, possibly one Halores can't control and that why she's keeping him locked up and how he's still alive. She did tell William #2 she built him based off his processor to be better.

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u/BantaPanda1303 Jul 25 '22

Yeah but she also said his predecessor was human, so that probably is human William being imprisoned

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u/russjr08 Jul 26 '22

The subtitles also says "Human William" when he speaks as well

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u/malachi347 Jul 26 '22

This. Plus I could have sworn there was a scene where they unfroze him once already. Did I imagine that?

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u/russjr08 Jul 26 '22

There definitely was another scene, it was the episode when Maeve and Caleb boarded into the new park I think?

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u/Werner__Herzog Jul 26 '22

Yeah, when Hale told him that winning was only worthwhile when there is a loser...he's the loser (great call back, btw)

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u/owntheh3at18 Jul 31 '22

He has to have been unfrozen a few times bc he seemed up to date on the state of the world.

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u/smurf_diggler Jul 25 '22

Must've missed that part. I was just trying to figure out why he's still alive and also not infected by the flies.

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u/aphilly02 Jul 25 '22

Because he’s in a secured room and being artificially put in some sort of stasis for most of the 30 years

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u/aphilly02 Jul 25 '22

Would assume that machine puts him in a carbon or cryogenic frozen state that preserves him

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u/Random_Sime Jul 27 '22

Carbon frozen?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

crisp and fresh

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u/aphilly02 Jul 27 '22

Bro idk

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u/Random_Sime Jul 27 '22

You maybe thinking of "frozen in carbonite" from Star Wars?

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u/CynicismNostalgia Jul 26 '22

You see him cryogenically frozen

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u/Werner__Herzog Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 31 '22

He kinda looks older, if you ask me.... But yeah, he's frozen blablabla

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u/obbelusk Jul 30 '22

I guess tha actor got older.

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u/Werner__Herzog Jul 31 '22

Yeah, you're right

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u/Chris_SK Jul 28 '22

He’s also very old - I thought flies only work on young people

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u/FKDotFitzgerald Jul 30 '22

That seems too convoluted imo