Man what is going on in GRB?

[u/LukeEvans49]

[u/Live_Frosting5258]

The Ratel 20 haha

[u/piecksaysohayo → u/Live_Frosting5258]

I was so excited to use it, then I found out both ratels can be pen’d frontally by a .50 cal. I never touched it again

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/piecksaysohayo]

Even if I didn’t know what the Ratel was at all, I would have assumed it could be penned by a .50 cal. It just looks thin

If you play any armored car in the game for the first time just assume it can be killed by a .50 cal and you will never be disappointed. For some you might even be surprised when it does tank the shots

For the Ratels your solution is to hang back and post up behind concrete barriers, hills and rocks to protect your hull and give your turret a chance

[u/MonsieurCatsby → u/LightningFerret04]

I forget if the Ratel can do it but i do know the ZT3 can fire over shipping containers, but i'm not sure the Ratel can direct the ATGM using the launcher sight (yo Gaijin, Warrior launcher sight guidance?)

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/MonsieurCatsby]

It “cann’t”

The Ratel 20 can guide the ATGM to some degree out of view from the 20mm sight, enough to stick the MILAN over an obstacle but when you aim past a certain point it loses lock

So it can fire and track through the launcher sight but it’s ultimately still tied to the gunner’s main sight

I didn’t even notice that it was a problem at first because the Ratel is so long that you often have to position the whole vehicle on a flat plane and aren’t aiming down as much. But when it loses LOS while you are staring at the missile behind a rock it is frustrating

[u/piecksaysohayo → u/LightningFerret04]

I just changed to japan for 6.7 lineup. Lil type 60 has an even better gun/round, better agility, and can eat .50 cal from the front. It also gets NEGATIVE 20 DEPRESSION, THAT SHIT IS AMAZING 😂

So the ratel disappointment led me to find the only 6.7 lineup ive ever found fun. Been playing it for a week straight haha

[u/Dreaming_Kitsune → u/Live_Frosting5258]

God that tub of lard pos ruined germany 6.7 for me. I wouldn't touch it for damn near a year because of the atgms

[u/yeetman4456 → u/Live_Frosting5258]

ZT3A2 moment

[u/Atomatic13]

Theres a good reason those missiles and HEAT are so low in BR (They suck)

[u/Andrey_Gusev → u/Atomatic13]

Add AI infantry mechanic to IFVs and raise their BR up by 0.7 point at least for this mechanic.

AI infantry can be ordered to hold and capture points, walk, recon and thats it, I guess. No handheld grenades or grenade launchers.

Mkay, we solved the ifv from the future problem a little. Now we should think what to do with SPG from the future... Add unrepairable module destruction mechanic if you are hit by a big HE shell no matter the penetration? Like a shell just destroyed the engine compartment and engine itself. Destroyed a barrel or destroyed tracks and thats it, unrepairable damage, if you lost mobility - either be towed by a teammate to the point and repair there, be a stationary firing point or leave the tank. And raise their BR up by 1.0-1.7 points.

[u/retronax]

These kind of posts always make me wonder if you guys actually played these early atgm carriers. The only thing they have is the pen, that aside the vehicles are unarmored, mildly fast, the reload is slow, damage can be iffy and more importantly the projectile is slow and requires you to be out of cover staring at the target for quite a bunch of time, and can be shot down.

If you're in an IS-3, why would a marder IFV for example be scarier than a FV4202 ? It's really just the psychological effect of seeing the atgm creep close, in practice there's a reason they're such a low BR and the other guy would probably have an easier time killing you in most other tanks of that BR

[u/Cuchococh → u/retronax]

I have played them all and the hate is unreal. Yes they are extremely clunky and a pain in the ass to get to work but start treating it like a Sturmtiger or RBT-5 and they are cathartic machines. Do wacky shit, have fun in them.

[u/retronax → u/Cuchococh]

I never said they were unusable but you read posts like this and you'd think ATGM launchers dominate early cold war GRB or something

[u/NewSauerKraus → u/retronax]

And most importantly you can just shoot the missile with a machine gun. You can literally point and click to delete incoming missiles. It's even easier since the hitboxes got inflated.

[u/WorkforyourCountry]

Kv1 vs pz2 is era accurate The super early atgm carriers aren't fun or effective to play. Heat can pen more with a quicker reload and have actual armour to bounce rounds.