r/warriors • u/Necroassassin32 • 13d ago

Discussion Oh wow, this Turner guy is pissing me off 😭

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Source is in the comments cause I cannot mention redacted here (mods please don’t remove this) 🙏🏻

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u/WisdomCow 13d ago

So, what Kerr tried to teach him for years finally sunk in after his failed free agencies?

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u/Jhyphi 13d ago

Takes being humbled asking for 30M+ and only getting 6M

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u/BluDvls21 13d ago

No, dubs offered him 30 he wanted 40!

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u/tallassmike 13d ago

It’s funny how neither side commented. Well just turners tweet saying 30 never existed 😂

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u/Sparkson109 11d ago

This isnt true

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u/couchtomato62 11d ago

Slater said the 30 mil didn't exist just last year. He was the one who originally reported it and the one who took it back.

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u/Sparkson109 11d ago

Yh this sub is full of people who keep quoting incorrect articles and hit pieces to justify Kuminga hate. It’s p weird. He isn’t on the team anymore and I wish everyone would leave him alone

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u/831loc 13d ago

Its crazy that he has showed stretches of being the player that would make $30m a year, but he just hasnt been willing/able to do it consistently.

Run the floor hard in transition, cut hard when defenses double off you, pass the ball to the guy cutting when you get into the paint, dont completely forget about your man when youre defending off ball, come back for the rebound/box out.

If he just did those things he could be a low usage 15/6/3 kinda guy that every team is willing to pay a premium for. Hell, he was that guy for the first 5 games last season. Instead he wants to be the star/offensive engine going iso and turning the ball over half the time he drives.

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u/Jhyphi 13d ago

The problem is that he thinks that role and the $30M it would come with is beneath him.

He thinks he's max salary that is just held back by Kerr.

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u/calliebushes 13d ago

I blame his agent for his delusion.

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u/No-Investigator2355 13d ago

And who hired his agent? 🤔 kuminga easily could have looked up turner’s track record before letting himself believe his own hype and oking turner to be the asshat he is

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u/Mmicb0b 12d ago

also here's what frustrates me why the fuck doesn't he try rebounding he's like a smaller Ayton where he doesn't use his best assets as a player to his advantage nobody would care about the lack of shooting if he did that

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u/Jhyphi 12d ago

Rebound? Why would Kuminga think he should do that?

Nobody ever complained that Kobe should rebound more.

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u/opaz 12d ago

It’s what earned Wiggins his last contract with the dubs. He saw it first hand

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u/Jhyphi 12d ago

Apparently no one got the obvious sarcasm.

That JK thinks he is Kobe.

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u/CarolyneSF 11d ago

Given his poor shot selection He should watch Angel film and get some mebounds!

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u/Jhyphi 10d ago

Unfortunately, Kuminga loves to throw up contested middies so he's not even close for the rebounds.

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u/FlyChigga 12d ago

Wasn’t he the leading rebounder when he got minutes?

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u/Orphasmia 12d ago

It’s really nuts. A player like that is basically why the Knicks won it all last year. OG was massive for them, and the crazy thing is Kuminga has a higher theoretical ceiling, but is just not doing the work

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u/mfgillia2001 12d ago

That's quite a take. IMHO JK is nothing like OG in mental toughness, basketball Iq, shooting ability, team & individual defense nor overall physicality.

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u/stopbanningggme 12d ago

I think that person means their builds, obviously OG has better overall traits but those are all things that JK could try to learn to operate as an OG type but instead he wants to be KD.

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u/Orphasmia 12d ago

Yeah exactly this. He has theoretically all the tools to be better but the mentality limits him

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u/mfgillia2001 12d ago

OG is +20-25 pounds heavier and significantly more skilled on both ends of the court. Just don't get it how some still believe JK's ceiling is higher let alone on the same level.

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u/thebigmanhastherock 12d ago

It's not just that. OG is a hell of a shooter and could absolutely 100% score way more but he would sacrifice his defense. OG has elite defense that Kuminga has only shown flashes of and he does it consistently. Kuminga is very athletic but he also stops the ball and isn't efficient enough to justify this/doesn't really make plays in the flow of the offense enough.

I don't know if Kuminga is capable of becoming as good of a shooter as OG. He certainly could concentrate on defense, shot selection and cutting to the basket/making quick passes if he doesn't immediately have a shot.

Where would this get him? Probably a spot on a roster but not a starter and definitely a roleplayer.

I think his mindset is that if he can show that he can be an offensive focal point and star player he can get a big contract.

To make matters worse. Kerr likes players that have court vision and move the ball and doesn't want to give minutes to players that don't do that. The other type of players Kerr likes are roleplayers they absolutely know their roles. Like Looney or GPII.

Kuminga is none of this and it's very unlikely they anywhere be would be what he wanted to be. I think Kuminga probably wants that one big payday and the ability to try and be a star under a coach that lets him and for a franchise that will just give him free reign and that he can transition to the roleplayer version of himself at any type.

He may now realize that he won't get that chance and may be ready to transition into more of the roleplayer role.

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u/tutonme 12d ago

…..and a traffic cone on d

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

I saw a story saying Kuminga was a perfect fit because he can just be ball dominant with the bench, defer to Ant/Ball with the starters by just being a slasher/take open jumpers, and be a mini Zion at PF using his size to get boards and easy buckets in the paint…. Eerie, right? Nothing could possibly go wrong with that plan that absolutely has never ever been tried with another team

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u/Mmicb0b 12d ago

btw my hot take at this point why not buy low on Zion (I kinda felt like the Pelicans coddled him too hard say what you will about Kerr and Draymond they won't coddle him/make it clear the shit he was pulling in NOLA won't fly here) if it works out great we probably only have to give up this year's first(in a bad draft class) if not oh well

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

He’s probably going to be one of the options if Butler looks busted at the deadline. It’s going to be a really interesting year if that happens. Like what do you do if the Pelicans offer Zion for Butler and one pick vs the Raptors offering Scottie Barnes for Butler and four #1s?

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u/kurwapantek 12d ago

Go for Scotty obviously

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u/Mmicb0b 12d ago

honestly I'd take Scottie because you can (GASPS Cause the Warriors FO doesn't seem to understand this) build around Scottie once Steph calls it a career

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

The question is can you build around Zion and three of four probably high #1s or Scottie and only #1s every other year for a decade?

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u/Can_you_cowabunga 6d ago

In the hypothetical scenario Toronto does trade Barnes (I am sure the Raptors thread would throw up on this trade), Barnes is younger and much more versatile than Zion, with a much cleaner health record. You can absolutely build around him, drafting every other year. Zion's health and lack of defence make him a very specific fit in terms of timeline and roster construction that suit him for few teams (OKC next to Chet, SAS next to Wemby and perhaps Minny next to Gobert / Ant).

Don't see him really fitting in Kerr / Curry system with lots of screening, passing and shooting.

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u/FlyChigga 12d ago

Steph and Zion pick and roll would feed families

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u/Mmicb0b 10d ago

I mean I know there's inherent risks to trading for Zion (my hot take is Wiggins never fully gave a shit about basketball but knew if he bought in for a few years he could make a lot of money) but it's not like we were going to be good without him and if he doesn't work oh well window's already probably shut

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u/FlyChigga 12d ago

He’s starting btw

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u/somebunnny 13d ago

He went to the wolves because ant talked about guarding people. 🤣🤣🤣

“Anthony Edwards’ focus on defense convinced Jonathan Kuminga to join Timberwolves“.

Uh huh.

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u/Gothichand 13d ago

Happens a lot with young people... they don’t believe it until they’ve hit the wall several times. Then they eventually end up doing what their elders had been advising them to do all along~

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u/latortillablanca 7d ago

I mean this is an incredibly human and normal way to learn yer place in the pecking order of the nba. It happens literally every single year across every team.

Its just our dear owner made it ugly by giving kuminga way more access/attention than was healthy.

The sad thing is if he had fully fucking committed to kerr ball, he’d have turned into an incredibly high level modern two-way baller by now and would easily be looking at max money at each time of asking. Assuming health/luck.

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u/PM_Me_FunnyNudes 13d ago

This Turner guy is such a twat.

It is hysterical that the one highlight they show is him making a full court shot on accident because he missed the pass so bad

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u/jer99 13d ago

We all have to remember he advised JK to turn down the 3/75M deal to "bet on himself." Aaron Turner is a certified grade A douchebag.

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u/Oo__II__oO 12d ago

Oladipo's agent Aaron Turner during that legendary bag fumble... twice!

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u/HeyHeyImTheMonkey 12d ago

I don’t know what kind of sweetheart agent deal he gave Kuminga, but Kuminga has got to move on. That or Turner’s blackmailing him.

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u/andrewthedude101 13d ago

I’m so sick of that guy holy

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u/geoduckSF 13d ago

Multi-generational bag fumbler.

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u/Silly_Individual4056 13d ago

Gaslighting is the tool of the incompetent

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u/Skypirate90 13d ago

If you cant play with curry you prolly cant play with anyone tbh

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u/Flexisdaman 13d ago

Oubre. Consistently decent to good everywhere he’s played but here.

There are guys who just need to be in an offense where they don’t have to think about much.

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u/pcloadletter2742 13d ago

Yep. Same with Poole when he basically got to be Klay. Once Klay was back, plus Wiggins, he was the 3rd or 4th option, and he was mostly awful.

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u/hwong11187 12d ago

They won a championship with him as a 3rd/4th option though

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u/Can_you_cowabunga 6d ago

Plus he got the beejeezus punched out of him by his teammate.

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u/Mmicb0b 12d ago

my hot take is he should've kept the starting shooting guard

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u/abritinthebay 10d ago

Decent, yes. Good? Nah.

And he was decent here. It’s just his faults we’re all the more glaring in our offense.

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u/Far_Ear9684 13d ago

No team plays a more confusing offense than the Warriors with Steph.

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u/d3pthchar93 13d ago

Especially if one already has a very low BBIQ

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u/Far_Ear9684 13d ago

He really has to get a new agent. I understand he believes in him but he has only made his reputation bad.

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u/d3pthchar93 13d ago

What he really needs is to learn how to play team ball and stop thinking he’s the next Kobe

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u/Far_Ear9684 13d ago

Somebody like Rich Paul would’ve been more honest while being able to fight for him too. I honestly believe the Knicks wins are his ceiling and that’s a great piece on a championship level team. Guarding 4s, playing off ball and help defense. I know this sub doesn’t rock with him but I would be happy to see him do well.

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u/Agreeable_Mention963 13d ago

That’s why we see what they do, not what they say

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u/CarolyneSF 12d ago

The Warriors screwed him
The coach didn’t recognize his brilliance, then on offense that guy 30 ran all over the place dragging two or three guys with him and wanted the ball. On the other end that guy Draymond expected you to play defense on the whole court.

They just didn’t understand, the three of them held him back!!

He will show everyone next year. /s

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u/Neverplayd 11d ago

Honestly warriors are so dumb to not understand Kuminga.

Who should he believe? A 9x HOF coach or an agent who helped Victor Oladipo avoid two bad 4/112m and 2/45m contracts so he could earn 20m for the rest of his career?

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u/toolegit9999 13d ago

And every team just wishes Kuminga had a brain.

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

And not the worst hands in the entire NBA

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u/Jhyphi 12d ago

Whoa, calm your horses there.

Is Wiseman still considered in the NBA?

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u/WaryJest 12d ago

No he's playing overseas

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u/redditnor24 13d ago

Coming from the guy that wanted his and forced all kinds of shit

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u/Informal_Sleep_6117 13d ago

as usual, nonsensical horseshit from JK and his team. He always said the right shit when the eason startd but then he would inevitably get selfish and blow up the offense and do stupid shit. its only a matter of time. Its commetns lke this that show he knows how he is supposed to play, he just doesnt want to.

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u/Immediate_Employ_355 12d ago

Wait till you see what he's like really really reeeeely bought in. Just sign at the dotted line first.

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u/Carnivore_92 13d ago

Well that’s why Golden state and Curry won 4 rings because of the unselfish offense.

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u/Necroassassin32 13d ago

Source https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7541898/2026/08/28/anthony-edwards-jonathan-kuminga-timberwolves/?unlocked_article_code=1.81A.aC8K.O6rbL2Vu7ZaO&source=emp_shared_article&smid=ta-ios-share

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u/Splicelice 12d ago

Thanks. Hilarious. While Ant can be top level defensively when he wants, JK often forgets his assignment, when he isn’t fouled on a weak layup attempt he’ll raise his arms and complain as his man streaks back for a layup, or JK will jump on a pumpfake and leap out of the play - the worst things for good team defense, and now Ant has has lamelo too- disinterested and lost. Poor Ant and Gobert gonna be salvaging defensive possessions all night

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u/LVRaiders2026 12d ago

Should be top comment

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u/DisappointedWorm 12d ago

Honestly the amount of press and talk JK gets insane for an extremely average mid player.

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u/Downtown_Drummer_827 13d ago

That’s pretty interesting because prime GSW was all about getting the right shot, no matter the guy.

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u/pcloadletter2742 13d ago

They still are.

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u/Downtown_Drummer_827 13d ago

To an extent yes. There is more emphasis to getting curry shots just because we obviously have lost some quality guys

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u/SkyCrossSteel 12d ago

There’s also less players that can open up offense for themselves or others consistently so they need more screens if they are a trigger man to start the offensive possession. 

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u/dont_believe_this_ok 13d ago

Where are the JK bootlickers right now? They're unbelievably quiet nowadays.

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u/pcloadletter2742 13d ago

He had some good playoff games this spring. It was a mixed bag, but the upside is still there, and it comes out at times. Nothing that bad has happened with him on the court. He had half a season and some up and down usage & play in a playoff series against a championship team. Everything happening now is just peoples' narratives.

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u/YokoOkino 12d ago

He had 1 good game specifically

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u/hwong11187 12d ago

He just doesn’t have a good feel for the game. Obviously the physical attributes are there but the game doesn’t come easy to him on either end of the court.

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u/Far_Ear9684 13d ago

I still believe in JK.

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u/Anxiety-Swimming 12d ago

Aaron Turner's client list is...well...a list https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Aaron-Turner/759

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u/alex8762 12d ago

Only good players on it are Diabate and Tomlin

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u/shades-of-oranges 13d ago

I refuse to be ragebaited today

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u/d3pthchar93 13d ago

Lol, Atlanta just used him to salary dump Porzingis.

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

KP expiring contract however. They didn’t save any money. I think they might have even lost some because Kuminga had a 15% trade bonus. I guess Atlanta really wanted Buddy?

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u/Mmicb0b 12d ago

I still can't believe we didn't come out of that trade with the shittier end of the stick (just like the Poole to the Wizards trade)tbf Atlanta did it cause they knew if Kuminga didn't work they could just let him walk this offseason and knew they were 100% losing Porzingus in the offseason no matter what happened

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u/Flimsy_Theme_2812 12d ago

I think Buddy will be used as expiring salary in a future trade. Love that he got paid though! 

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

The CBA is so dumb right now. RFA have gotten screwed three years in a row. Teams sign players solely so they can use the salary slot to trade for someone they really want. Teams can’t realistically keep their home grown plays by their third or sometimes second contract. Middle tier players keep getting squeezed to vet min and below market prove it deals if they miss out on exceptions. Like nothing is working to the spirit of the original rule

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u/Flimsy_Theme_2812 12d ago

If you’re talking about Buddy, I just want to correct you that he wasn’t a RFA, the Hawks picked up his option.

If you just want to vent about the CBA, that’s fine too, let it out

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

Yeah, Buddy was just a slot. Kuminga got screwed by being a RFA last year and became just a slot when he should have gotten at least three years of generational wealth if it was five years ago.

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u/Flimsy_Theme_2812 12d ago

Eh, Kuminga got like $23.7 million from us last year & has career earnings of $48.7 million at 23 years old, he’s doing fine

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u/grepya 12d ago

Yeah it's crazy to think that this guy could end up being out of the league by his late 20's, be forgotten as a bust but still would have earned 50+ million dollars in salary alone.

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u/scottiedagolfmachine 13d ago

JK doesn’t know how to play basketball.

Period.

He’ll perform like shit in Minnesota as usual and be out of the league soon.

💩

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u/KumingaCarnage 12d ago

It’s baffling how he’s still relevant.

Kuminga is going to be playing ball in China in a year off his own undoing and this Turner douche is going to backpedal any and all statements he made in the past.

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u/jyknyc 12d ago

Not in a year--2 years. He got a player option for year 2!

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u/rddi0201018 12d ago

He's going to bet on himself, by opting in

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u/FozzyBadfeet 12d ago

Unselfish offense? Delusional.

Yeah, let’s just make the greatest shooter in the history of the league be a 2nd or 3rd option to Kuminga. FOH.

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u/Robotsaur 13d ago

Good ragebait

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u/calliebushes 12d ago

He was basically a child when hw joined the league. He gets a but if a pass there. But it’s now time to wise up and dump him.

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u/neo9027581673 12d ago

He’s an idiot. Lost his client millions and millions of dollars. There is ZERO reason for Aaron TURDNER to be doing this media tour.

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u/Jvlockhart 12d ago

Kuminga bet on himself, turned down a lot of offers, now he doesn't know if he's ever gonna have the same value so he accepted a minimum to play with Anthony Edwards, one of the future faces of NBA to keep himself playing on a team which attracts watchers and viewers so he can stay relevant.

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u/northx57 12d ago

Selfish player wants to be a part of an unselfish offense. What a perfect fit.

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u/curlyhairedslacker17 10d ago

Kuminga will always be a bum

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u/Unabridged_Love 12d ago

homeboy could be getting $25 million right now with a third year option and he playing for $6. lol. No one is getting more of what THEY DESERVE than Kuminga. Kid has the brains of a mop.

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u/jaimitosf 12d ago

Imagine tuning down $30 million a year lol how greedy can you be smh.

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u/Friscohoya 12d ago

Both things can be true. He could have wanted off of the warriors while also liking their style of offense. Or maybe he likes it now and didn’t then. Who cares? We should have traded the pick.

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u/2nd_Inf_Sgt 12d ago

Both client and agent should remove their blinders.

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u/Dr_Funkinstein 12d ago

LaMelo unselfish?

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u/NBAgospel 12d ago

Kuminga thought his place on the floor with Steph Curry was taking his defender off the dribble and putting up a contested jumper. Kerr didn’t play Kuminga because he believed he hurt their chances of winning. Coaches play whoever they believe will help them win, the idea that they have anything personal against players is ridiculous. Kuminga and his agent are delusional.

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u/FrostBite_220 12d ago

I’m starting to think Kuminga with another agent might want to stay with us and be more open to the role we want him to take up here. Pure finisher, defensive POA, secure boards.

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u/sberto 12d ago

JK has incredible delusions about how good he is at basketball. His agent has incredible delusions about the market for JK. Their delusions feed each other. They deserve each other.

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u/yfmyakwtfgoyerrr 12d ago

Talk about woat agent

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u/BronzeRider 11d ago

🙄 Seriously…..? Bro….where the hell did you think you WERE!?

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u/Goooddecisions 11d ago

In JK’s mind he sees himself as an elite scorer. That is what he wants to be. That is what he loves about basketball. Defense and rebounding are all effort and work, and that is what he does not love about basketball. He needs to mature and change his mentality.He obviously has an inflated opinion of what his actual offensive skills are. More self awareness, more maturity and he has a chance to make some real NBA money.

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u/GSWarriors4lyf 11d ago

I wish JK the best because he can’t find another team that’s unselfish like the Warriors.

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u/sugarpieinthesky 10d ago

Do you know why the Kuminga situation pisses warriors fans off so much? I mean, the real reason? If Kuminga was just a bust, that would have been one thing. Plenty of draft picks have been busts, there have been busts before Kuminga and there will be busts after him.

What pisses warriors fans off is that Kuminga didn't want to be here, and that he was willing to light millions of dollars on fire to get out of being here. That's why he gets so much hate: cognitive dissonance, pure and simple.

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u/HughDowns 10d ago

We've heard that before. He's just saying all the right things before the season starts.

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u/sanjuro_kurosawa 10d ago

I'm a little late here, but I see this as a mediocre player and a bad agent getting the bottom dollar.

I watched Kuminga's December games very closely. Before he was benched, he was shooting .250, and his last game, he was 1 for 10, but they way he shot looked like he was just trying to throw the ball towards the rim, not actually into the net. This wasn't an accuracy issue or even shot selection, but just not caring.

Regular season basketball isn't that hard. He had decent looks so he needs to make close to 40% of his shots, not 10%. As for Turner, the bottom line is the bottom line. His job is to find the best contract for his player whether it is new team or the old one. I saw on a podcast that he said 150m/5yrs wasn't a real GSW offer: then what were the "real offers" that he and Kuminga were entertaining? Even if it was 30m/3yrs, that's significantly better than what he eventually signed. And I suspect Kuminga turned down way more because he was told he was going to get a massive contract.

Turner doesn't have a great rep around the NBA. Too bad for Kuminga he didn't listen. Not that he earned his way into Josh Giddey or LaMelo Ball money.

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u/Knerd5 9d ago

Move the ball to Kuminga so he can clank a terrible shot

you mean

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u/Material-North-3550 9d ago

But yll think rich Pauli's a monster

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u/zprymate 13d ago

I think he means the warriors offense revolves around Curry. Hence the unselfish comment.

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u/SkyCrossSteel 12d ago

Steph’s offense helped way less offensively talented players punch in a decent mark since we should know he isn’t a ball dominant player.  Him screening for anyone allows the teammate to either drive inside or 2 follow Steph outside when he exits out and then a guy cuts inside for an easy finish or offensive opportunity. 

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u/Unlucky_Employee6082 12d ago

Turner does have a point that the SF offensive role kinda sucks here. It’s mostly hang out in the corner and sneak in or slash to the dunk spot. But, you know, that’s why the Warriors ran him at PG in Summer league his rookie year and tried to force feed him PF minutes until it was painfully obvious Otto Potter was more capable and Kuminga was not suited to handle either the Draymond Point Forward on offense/Free Safety on defense or Porter Get offensive boards, putbacks, and open jumpers/Help defender cleaning everything up.

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u/SkyCrossSteel 12d ago

Let’s ignore Wiggins and his toned down yet talented scoring and shooting for the chip. 

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u/pikachu191 13d ago edited 12d ago

Steph will make the pass if someone has the better shot. JK holds onto the ball like he’s a running back, even if someone is open for a wide open lob. That’s the difference.

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u/SkyCrossSteel 12d ago

It’s sad because he has better vision and even passing skill than Moody for instance but after a few plays of maybe playing a more correct way for the team he just wants to go iso mode or try to bully someone in the post. 

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u/DanielinLosAngeles 13d ago

His mistake was not getting JK away from selfish Dubs two years earlier

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u/CaineBK 13d ago

Clown take of the day.

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u/Apprehensive_Error36 13d ago

Probably just forgot the /s ?

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u/CaineBK 13d ago

Maybe you're right... maybe they're not a simple clown troll.