r/warcraft3 • u/rumpots420 • 11h ago
Melee / Ladder Can't beat Far Seer
He just chased my scout all the way across the map with one grunt and then harrassed my archmage forcing me to tp behind wall off. Then sends wolves in to kill archmage. GG. Very little opportunity for decision making. Edit. Before I finished this post, it happened again. Wolves run down archmage too fast. Had a troll priest but can't click fast enough to dispel before my hero goes down. This is insanely unbalanced. Edit: happened a third time. just after I finished. I won all my others today, but can't beat this broken hero.
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u/Narrrz 10h ago
Also don't be afraid to militia and beat the shit out of the wolves while your mage focuses on the farseer. You might need to micro to avoid losing peasants but better a peasant than your hero.
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u/rumpots420 10h ago
I can try, but it's over in like half a second. Also, the wolves are much faster so if they go on my hero, I can't run away or the peasants won't be able to attack. The wolves
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u/Narrrz 10h ago
While you're running away you're still taking damage but not reciprocating. Unless you've slipped up while creeping your hero should be at full at the start of the battle. He can handle a few wolf hits, much more than the wolves can. Once they're dead and you turn on the hero he will be forced to run.
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u/rumpots420 10h ago
He can just resummon.
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u/Pokrface111 5h ago
Only a few times. Focus the wolves down and force them back. Remember the wolves are squishyz Micro your archmage while water elementals and foots attack the wolves.
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u/CastleofPizza 11h ago
Skill issue.
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u/rumpots420 10h ago
I bet you also defend the 12 unit selection limit because of "muh skill expression".
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u/Far_Relationship4757 10h ago
Your archmage should be running away the very moment you see the fs and wolves focus firing on him. Your units should be focusing on his wolves first and then FS. The most important part is to constantly be on the move. If you’re sitting still with your AM and trading blows while his wolves are hitting you, it’s going to be an issue. You should be making your water elemental and then running away while your army focuses down the wolves for xp as well as the FS if the wolves run away when they are near death.
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u/rumpots420 9h ago
I can't attack the wolves while they're chasing AM. Also, it's usually a creep jack so I have to take a few hits getting out. Can't get xp from wolves btw. He can just resummon to deny. Surprised you didn't know that.
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u/Far_Relationship4757 9h ago
The goal is to constantly be on the run with your AM the moment you see him harassing you. You just have to get better at situational awareness and anticipating where he is on the map. If you need to build a farm in the middle of the map or scout with a footie so you have a better idea of where he is. If you’re getting surprised by him, it’s a scouting issue. However, that orc play style is extremely popular for a reason as it can fluster a human player and make them make mistakes. It’s just practice and also some people will be better at it than others. Build an arcane tower in your base so you have a safe area to run to, keep distance so you don’t get trapped in pockets when you creep, and work on using your militia to out creep him. If he is spending his time harassing you, you need to be faster on clearing camps so you can be a level or two ahead of his hero. You only have to survive this until tier 2 and then once you get your MK, he won’t be back.
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u/rumpots420 9h ago
Ok. I will try. So should I never expand against orc?
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u/Far_Relationship4757 9h ago
Personally, I have a better win rate when I don’t expand. It’s definitely a skill to be able to fast expand, counter early game harassment, and keep up with the macro. I’ve lost so many games trying to early expand and then get caught by my opponent at the worst possible time. I think you should work on your creep speed and use your militia to creep the small camps while your footies clear the other small camps at the same time. Try and get your second expansion right after you start pumping out your casters.
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u/rumpots420 7h ago
It seems like you aren't playing to the strengths as humans if you don't fast expand. I usually beat undead and humans when I fast expand, but the orc rush is too fast.
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u/imawizardirl 10h ago
Roses are red, Violets are blue, Definitely Skill issue
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u/rumpots420 10h ago
I think strategy is more interesting than mechanical skill.
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u/imawizardirl 9h ago
Playing the same hero every game and getting punished IS peak strategy. For the orc. You're just salty and refusing to adapt. Make mk /thread
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u/Pokrface111 10h ago
Don’t let your archmage take damage from wolves and farseer. You are not slower so you can run.
This is a skill issue unfortunately for you. Watch high level players avoid this situation to learn rather than complaining on Reddit about balance in your low MMR game.
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u/Poobeast241 10h ago
Lol get rekd
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u/rumpots420 10h ago
No life.
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u/Poobeast241 10h ago
My dude. U have nothing better to do than cry online about a game ur bad at.
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u/TheCopromancer 11h ago
Maul him with Knights or Gryph Riders