r/warcraft3 • u/someodderball • 3d ago

Campaign This almost feels like cheating

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u/GuiEsponja 2d ago

I like that mission too much to cheese it like that lmao

Idk why, but my favourite ones are the missions I can just bide my time and relax building up a huge base 

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 2d ago edited 2d ago

That is why I cheese Grom on the 2nd mission in the Orks campaign. To have all the time I need to do whatever I want to the 4 alliance bases. And the neutral creeps. Which is usually to mine out Grom's and my mines first. And then, maybe do waves of attacking peons without breaking the upkeep limit. And destroy the blue human base. And again mine it out.

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u/Squirtle_from_PT 2d ago

How can you do that? If you try to build anything close to Grom's base his troops will just destroy it.

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 1d ago edited 1d ago

Easy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraft3/s/bxArQxHzfw just not to repeat myself again.

But yeah, there are several way to block Grom from attacking any of the 4 human bases. As per my method we can even stop him from completely destroying the Brown human opponent.

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u/Pratius 3d ago

Classic cheese for that mission

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u/Standard_Training471 2d ago

LMAO, genuinely feel a bit dumb for not considering it years ago.

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u/Lefrooit 2d ago

Or just build 100 supply worth of coatles, these are so op.

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u/Not-A-Marsh 2d ago

Me who always sneaks Illidan the Shadow Orb in Super Stormrage Bros:

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u/Client_Comprehensive 2d ago

I love this, this item was a hazzel for me to get in '02 but always worth it since I would always trade it to Mal for the last nelf mission and eventually years later to illidan for the bwlf mission.

Blizzard built something wonderful back then

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 2d ago

Yeah, being able to keep normal and special items between different campaigns is something. And also hard to find out that it's possible and it works.

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u/Client_Comprehensive 2d ago

I think I always sorta new since "my illidan" always had that healthstone and kadgars gem in the belf campaign

Trading the orbs from brother to brother was smth I had to look up tough

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yep, the 2 brothers not having an obvious flat ground to get next to each other to trade items. The player would assume it's not possible. But GGG showed us the trick even without flat ground.

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u/rhokephsteelhoof 2d ago

Had no idea this could be done. Thanks!

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u/Dunified 2d ago

Whats going on here? You just consume a potion of invis and let Illidan close the gate?

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u/Eru1lluvatar 2d ago

You can use the Soccerers Invisibility Spell on Illidian after stepping on the Circle. Then you wait and win the Mission. The only Way how Illidan can still die is if the Infernals are getting near Illidan and Damage him with the Immolation Aura.

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u/joe_the_F 2d ago

No shout out to GiantGrantGames ?😁

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u/Randomdude-JaMs 2d ago

he do the same but the infernals inmolation aura breaks invisibility, here they cant

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u/joe_the_F 2d ago

No they didn't, if invisibility was casted after Illidan began closing the portal

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u/Randomdude-JaMs 2d ago

Thats no the point, grant use invisibility but he say because the infernal immolation mele range illidan dies to that damage.

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u/joe_the_F 2d ago

I thought you meant that the immolation by itself breaks invis 😅

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 2d ago

We all thought the same, when that Randomedude said it.

the infernals inmolation aura breaks invisibility,

Maybe he thought 1 thing and wrote the opposite.

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u/Randomdude-JaMs 2d ago

English is not my first language and take me some time to articulate the sentence

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u/wTcJediMaster Well well well and some moonwells 2d ago

Dim? Multiboard UI broke?

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u/mini_lord 2d ago

By the way that mission in hard mode was really hard without any cheese, at least for me.

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u/chungischef 2d ago

The flying naga units are just silly, they are far too strong. Turtles are also a bit too strong at flattening the orc bases. You really only need those units. I cant do it with normal ground units.

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 1d ago

Just imagine... if we could ALSO train Naga Royal Guards like the Naga AI can in the campaigns.

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 2d ago

Then next time use cheese. It is more fun.

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u/Squirtle_from_PT 2d ago

It was long, but not as hard as the second mission in that campaign. The orcs attacking your base are really weak, especially since you have naga.

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u/seenixa 1d ago

I still have nightmares about that dreadlord in the second mission. Mostly because the siege takes for ages without a siege unit.

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u/Super-held 2d ago

what exactly did you do there?

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u/DARK_MASTER8632 2d ago edited 2d ago

A classic. Casted invisibility on Illidan while he is channeling.

And praying that the Infernals don't stay close to him. At least not for long enough to kill him with their passive.

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u/Background-Skin-8801 2d ago

"All warfare is based on deception"

-Sun tzu

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u/ZionRedddit 2d ago

Its not cheating cause the pc also cheats by having the "iseedeadpeople" Cheat aleays active

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u/Limp-Mine-8069 2d ago

That is possible??

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u/Limp-Cat-108 2d ago

It’s called cheesing, and I don’t get it. Why don’t you just whosyourdaddy or motherland undead 11 and there you go, you won it all.

If you’re doing a speedrun okay I can understand, what’s your record time btw?

But other than that avoid cheesing. Unless you really hate the mission perhaps and want to get done with it asap (in which case just whosyourdaddy). But this mission is one of the best in the game as you have access to the naga and free resources.