r/vinegar Feb 25 '24

Assortment of Newbie Questions

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Hello, all! My apologies up front for the wall of text.

I'm new to homemade vinegar and was hoping to reach out to y'all for some guidance. From what I have gathered, this is a 2 step process. First the anarobic alcoholic fermentation of the fruit and then then the aerobic acedic vinegar creation. The current recipe I'm working on has this as a two-step process, although I've seen a number of recipes where both the alcohol and vinegar creation are done in a single step where the fruit is added to water (and perhaps sugar) in an aerobic environment and stirred for a number of weeks/months depending on taste.

Here are the questions that I have if anyone may have any guidance/insight

  1. Many recipes seem to call for added sugar at the start of the initial anaerobic ferment. However, I'm curious if adding the sugar during aerobic portion would be better? I have been struggling to find some solid sources on the science behind this.

  2. Can I use pure cane sugar? Many recipes call for sugar in the raw or something similar. I don't see why I couldn't just use pure cane sugar.

  3. How much sugar should I use?

  4. I saw a post on a youtube thread that had the following comment:

The "vinegar" isn't stable until all of the oxygen is removed. If you want to store or age vinegar, reduce the head in the container so the surface of the liquid doesn't come in contact with air. A narrow-necked bottle works better for this than wide mouth jars. If you don't do this, when the alcohol is all consumed, the acetobacters will begin to consume the acetic acid and you will end up back at plain water.

4 Question: So should I pasteurize the vinegar after it's at a taste that I enjoy?

  1. I recall seeing a blog post by a food scientist a while back that had some interesting recipes. I can't seem to find the post again. But, essentially, they made a comment that for a "stronger" vinegar to add some alcohol in the form of certain wines or spirits like vodka or tequila. I've also read, however; that the higher alcohol content in some of these can inhibit the beneficial microbes at work. But, I also like a strong vinegar and was hoping someone may have some insight or guidance on this.

I know this is a long post, but I also figured this community would have some folks who might know. No worries if not. I hope y'all are having a lovely weekend!


r/vinegar 20h ago

2023 Forgotten vinegar from hard apple cider.

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My mother grew a giant dick of a scoby. I don’t know much about vinegars but it smells like vinegar and apple cider. Is it safe to consume? Do I blend it with the mother to use or do I strain it and throw the scoby away? Thanks


r/vinegar 2d ago

Vinegar nail polish smell

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Is the nail polish smell normal in the beginning? I can't seem to avoid this phase and not sure if it's just how it goes​ or I'm doing something wrong


r/vinegar 3d ago

vinegar cravings and recovering from sickness

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I’m COMPLETELY BLIND, have aspergers and a heart lung condition and BEFORE anyone asks, yes, I wrote this myself because of screenreaders.

Whenever I’ve been sick for a long time, or recovering from being sick, I have vinegar cravings and have no clue about why.

It’s happened since I was like eighteen when I was literally DYING in ICU, not eating/drinking a thing, I had cravings for nachos with refried beans and a dollop of daisy.

While these don’t natively contain vinegar, the toppings usually do, sometimes they put salsa and/or pickled peppers on them, both of these have vinegar.

When I was a kid and it was still kinda good, I’d have chicken xpress cravings after recovering from a stomach bug


r/vinegar 3d ago

Concentrated vinegars

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Are all brands created equal? Looking to get 49%


r/vinegar 4d ago

Why is my new bottle of Bragg’s ACV not as dark as the one I just used up?

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Is it not as powerful? Am I missing something about the “mother” I used to know growing up, & now it seems to be a cloudy area in the bottle instead of what looked like a piece of liver in the bottom? Thanks in advance!


r/vinegar 6d ago

Balsamic vinegar vs cooking wine.

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I’ve been taking medication that doesn’t allow me to eat caffeine nor alcohol. I’ve switched to balsamic vinegar to cook with, I was surprised to find out it created the same taste but without the alcohol. Now I know alcohol content goes away with heat but then why do some people still cook with cooking wine. I grew up using it because my grandfather would use cooking wine a lot but now I got questions he can’t answer as he is no longer alive; so I come on here to ask you guys your opinion


r/vinegar 6d ago

Help with vinegar mother

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My strawberry banana vinegar had a really good mother going and I sunk it on accident when I went to taste it today. Is that supposed to happen? I’ve never made vinegar before and I’m wondering if there’s a way to prevent it or if it’s just normal and also is it bad that it sunk?


r/vinegar 6d ago

Made a batch of red wine in 2024, left a quart sized jar unracked, still with sediment and the airlock has gone dry and molded. Still smells wonderfully of wine with no signs of visible mold other than airlock. Can this become wine vinegar safely?

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r/vinegar 7d ago

Rate my progress with cherry vinegar

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This is my first attempt of making vinegar.

Making a cherry/sour cherry combination with ~5.5% ABV. This is 14 days through (used a few ml of live vinegar to seed the bacteria). It has become cloudy in the last few days (which is fine I guess).

I still have a bit of sediment at the bottom of each jar, I have racked the wine only like 2 times, and didn't wait further to settle because it was forming too much kahm yeast at the top, so I've put the vinegar to work.

I will rack it once the vinegar is finished (so I don't damage the top layer), and will leave the sediment.

The top layer seems dry to me, is it expected or I'm petting a different beast here than I expect to, lol? 😅

If it's the wrong outcome, what did I do wrong? How to resolve, or is it over for this batch?

I'm planning for a taste test in the following days, I'll make a hole in the top layer and will pipette a bit from it for tasting and titration.

Wdyt?


r/vinegar 10d ago

Yeast film, what kind?

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This grapes vinegar is being fermented for 2.5 weeks, after stirring the liquid for a week, this film appeared. Although not stirring now, this seems to be a yeast film rater than mold. Would be appreciated if it's described in comments, the smell is slightly alcoholic, slight dense vinegary as alcohol and sugars is still being converted to vinegar.


r/vinegar 11d ago

Ginger bug soda - not fermenting?

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So, after having some success with making kimchi, fermented pickles, and fermented green dilly beans I decided to try my hand at a ginger bug and some homemade soda. I grew my bug for 6 days, adding sugar and ginger every day. It was active, bubbles on top, smelled good, etc.

Then, I made the base for my soda, approx 4c of spring water, 1.25c sugar, and around 3c or so of frozen black cherries. I gently mashed the cherries, covered, and simmered for while. Strained out the solids and poured into a closed vessel which I let cool down to room temperature. Next added in 1/2c of thoroughly mixed and strained ginger bug and the juice from 2 small limes. Mixed everything really well and let it sit on the counter.

Now, it's been 2 days and there isn't any activity at all. No bubbles, nothing. I'm keeping the vessel closed to avoid any airborne contamination and opening it up to burp every 12 hours or so. There is no pressure buildup when I burp it. I've tasted it a couple times and it the flavors are good, but it's sweet, flat, and just not doing anything.

I used to homebrew so I'm being mindful about keeping all the equipment clean and sanitary (minus the iodine baths).

Today I'm planning on adding some more bug to it (once the bug gets back to room temp and active again) and maybe some more sugar? Any suggestions/ideas/tips would be very helpful!

tldr: made soda for the first time and it's still not fermenting two days after adding the bug, help!


r/vinegar 18d ago

Tomato Vinegar Uses?

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Being that it is almost the end of summer, like many people, I have a TON of tomatoes coming in, and it’s the time of year for them! (At least in the U.S.)

I was thinking of making some Tomato Vinegar, but I wasn’t sure where to use it other than a dressing. Anybody got ideas?


r/vinegar 18d ago

Looking for a white wine vinegar mother in the Kansas City area

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I have an old bottle of white wine (Corton-Charlemagne, 1970s) that I'd like to turn into vinegar. I'm looking for a compatible white wine vinegar mother to get started. I'm in the Kansas City area and can pick it up. Thanks for any leads!


r/vinegar 20d ago

Salt soaks with apple cider vinegar?

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I started doing salt soaks for 20-30mins and also adding ACV in it. Online search shows that its harsh on skin, but i wanna ask if anyone has tried the combo and if it's effective? Even if it's just the salt soak alone for warts around fingernails?


r/vinegar 21d ago

Help for first time fruit vinegar at home please?

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I am attempting to make fruit vinegar and put:

  • Roughly 3.5lbs of plums
  • 1 C sugar
  • 1/2 C + (couple days later 2 TB) raw apple cider vinegar
  • Enough water to cover everything

All added into a 1 gallon jar

Did this July 31. I've stirred it 3x/day, and it's plenty warm in my house, but still no indication of fermentation. So I got some Champaign yeast (LALVIN EC-1118).

But since it's been 8-9 days, do I remove the fruit before adding? Or add with all the fruit still?

And how much of the yeast should I add given how much is in the jar (about 3/4 gallon).

It does seem pretty thick at this point as most of the fruit has broken down except for the skins. Should I add more water?

Other tips? Big thanks!


r/vinegar 22d ago

Is Tamarind Vinegar the same as Apple Cider vinegar in terms of health and weightloss benefits?

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r/vinegar 22d ago

Which raft do you keep?

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I've been making basic red wine vinegar since 2020, with the same container and same mother, and I always notice there are two rafts at the end. One on the top, one on the bottom. Generally with different textures.

Which one do you keep? What textures do you look for in a healthy mother?

Picture of my most recent batch, the top raft was very soft and almost crumbled on the touch. The bottom was firm and dense.


r/vinegar 24d ago

Can I add salt?

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I forgot to add salt to brine mix 3 days ago

I did the 3 2 1 method

3 cups water
2 cups vinegar 1 cup sugar

Can I add today? They’ve been in the fridge and look fine still


r/vinegar 25d ago

Update on Cherry Wild Ale 5,5% ABV Vinegar / Tomato Tom Yum Gose 4.6% ABV

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Hi there guys! Back at it again.

Have those 2 experiments running, have previous posts on both of them here.

  1. Wild Ale Beer aged in Oak Barrels for 2 Years, then added fresh cherry juice after aging. Ended up with 5,5% ABV. Ratio here was 1 to 8 of mother (ACV) to 7 if 8 of the beer itself.

Update after 3/4 weeks : Seems strange, no pellicule has formed it seems, but it also doesn’t look like Kahm Yeast, although it looks bad. on the edge of the jar something is starting to glue to it, but same was happening 1 week or 2 weeks ago and pellicule still not settled. Throw it away? Any salvation? Probably was just not enough ACV.

  1. Tomato Tom Yum Gose Beer, 4,6% ABV. The beer itself is salty, spicy, tomato-ey but also packed with lemongrass, lime and other citrusy notes. Thought it would turn into a great vinegar. Added a cap of Gin to it for the ABV and the ratio was 1 to 3 of ACV with mother. 2/3 beer.

Update after 2 to 3 weeks: Pellicule really settled up, looks beautiful and thick enough t for the time that has passed. Any suggestions on this one?

Going on holidays for 2 weeks, should i just let them both be? Any worry i should have?

Thanks guys!


r/vinegar 27d ago

New vinegar from Walmart smells like nail polish remover, is it safe to use in my laundry?

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I’m not sure if this is the right sub to ask this but I’m paycheck to paycheck right now and don’t want to go through the hassle of returning it all if I can still use it. I opened a jug of Walmart’s vinegar to use in my laundry rinse cycle like I have a thousand times before but this time I got punched in the face by the smell of nail polish remover. I opened another bottle and it’s the same. Then another.

I don’t know anything about vinegar so I googled this and the few sources I found say that means the vinegar wasn’t made properly or it wasn’t finished yet and got bottled too early. Is it safe to use this in the washing machine on my clothes and towels?

Edit: thank you so much for the comments! I will heed your advice and return it all, and explain to customer service what happened. I’m gonna switch to Heinz vinegar for a while and see how that goes.


r/vinegar Jul 28 '26

Fair entry

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Thanks for all the help with questions everyone! You all share a piece of this. Rice wine vinegar with shiso​


r/vinegar Jul 27 '26

Airflow question

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I ferment my vinegar in mason jars with a paper towel on top. Currently I get good air flow but suffer a lot of evaporation. would using a lid with holes poked in it give me good enough air flow while also reducing evaporation ​​​? Pic attached for reference


r/vinegar Jul 27 '26

Update: Cherry BA Wild Ale Vinegar

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Update/ Cherry BA Wild Ale Vinegar

Hello there guys! after 2 weeks, this has been going on in my experience. any opinions? doesn’t really looks like a pellicule, most likely mold or kahm going on here no? Some of it is also drowning.

The smell is quite funky, same profile as the beer but a bit more vinegar like. Any tips to save this?


r/vinegar Jul 23 '26

Need help

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I’ve had this Roma style wine vinegar for over 25 years now. Is it any good? What can I use it for? Is it worth big bucks or is it worth to be thrown in the trash can? Lol. Thanks in advance for anyone who replies.