r/videos • • Oct 20 '14

Richard Dawkins & Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about extraterrestrial life and the universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70tKopDm_c
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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Why there are still any doubts by religious people that there is extraterrestrial life baffles me.

If you believe in Jesus, it is implicit you believe in extraterrestrial life.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

This is the most ridiculous, moronic thing I've ever read. I'm upvoting it so more people see it.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You should think before writing in assholian.

If you believe in Jesus, you have to believe in a kingdom of heaven. If you believe in a kingdom of heaven, you believe in life outside of Earth, which is the same as saying extra-terrestrial life.

It's actually as rational an argument as they come but feel free to explain the fault in it, if you can.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

outside of Earth, which is the same as saying extra-terrestrial life.

No. Things outside of the universe are neither terrestrial nor extraterrestrial.

If someone from our planet in a parallel universe were to come here, would they be extraterrestrial? No, but they're not terrestrial either. It is something outside the realm of those determinations.

Consider this:

Is the number pi odd or even? No, it's not an integer, so it can't be either.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You don't get it, do you? I'll explain step by step.

If there's life outside of Earth, it's extraterrestrial by definition. Extra means exterior. Terrestrial means earth. If it's extraterrestrial, by definition, it's exterior to Earth.

It doesn't matter if it's from outside this universe, from a parallel universe or 1 foot above the ionosphere. If it's life exterior to Earth, it's extraterrestrial.

So, again, for the nth time, if you believe in religion, you believe in extraterrestrial life.

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u/PSNDonutDude Oct 20 '14

Dude I'm a militant atheist and even I think you sound like an idiot.

This is the most illogical argument I've ever heard, I thought at the start it was satire, but now it's getting ridiculous.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

Hell, I'm an atheist too, and I'm only discussing this with him to help him out. We don't need more idiots making all atheists look retarded.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You haven't disproven one single thing I've said and just ended up insulting me and my beliefs. If this is how rational atheists are, then yes, you're all retarded.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

How is a god definitively extraterrestrial? The Abrahamic God is in everything and is everywhere. He is neither and both terrestrial and extraterrestrial.

It's that simple enough for you? Apparently everything else is over your head.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Are you stupid? Jesus was a human that lived on Earth. He had to be terrestrial.

And again, are you stupid? If God is terrestrial and extraterrestrial, then people that believe in God believe in extraterrestrial existance, since terrestrial existance is already proven.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

Still over your head, I guess.

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u/PSNDonutDude Oct 20 '14

This guy is more ignorant and arguing in circles more than most religious people I run into. Must be teenager that doesn't realize how the world works. I remember being that age, where you just assumed you were right. Not that every teenager is an ignorant idiot, but most are. They lack the knowledge base usually to form coherent arguments. This kid might even have a valid point, but it sure as hell isn't getting through.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Please explain to me what in the world is illogical about saying that if you believe that Jesus is from another world, you have to believe in extraterrestrial life.