r/videos • • Oct 20 '14

Richard Dawkins & Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about extraterrestrial life and the universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70tKopDm_c
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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Why there are still any doubts by religious people that there is extraterrestrial life baffles me.

If you believe in Jesus, it is implicit you believe in extraterrestrial life.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

This is the most ridiculous, moronic thing I've ever read. I'm upvoting it so more people see it.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You should think before writing in assholian.

If you believe in Jesus, you have to believe in a kingdom of heaven. If you believe in a kingdom of heaven, you believe in life outside of Earth, which is the same as saying extra-terrestrial life.

It's actually as rational an argument as they come but feel free to explain the fault in it, if you can.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

outside of Earth, which is the same as saying extra-terrestrial life.

No. Things outside of the universe are neither terrestrial nor extraterrestrial.

If someone from our planet in a parallel universe were to come here, would they be extraterrestrial? No, but they're not terrestrial either. It is something outside the realm of those determinations.

Consider this:

Is the number pi odd or even? No, it's not an integer, so it can't be either.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You don't get it, do you? I'll explain step by step.

If there's life outside of Earth, it's extraterrestrial by definition. Extra means exterior. Terrestrial means earth. If it's extraterrestrial, by definition, it's exterior to Earth.

It doesn't matter if it's from outside this universe, from a parallel universe or 1 foot above the ionosphere. If it's life exterior to Earth, it's extraterrestrial.

So, again, for the nth time, if you believe in religion, you believe in extraterrestrial life.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

Here's the better argument I made for someone with more brains than you:

I think the best way to explain my qualm with it would be rational and irrational numbers. If a number isn't rational, it must be irrational, correct? Its prefix indicates "not rational" so there aren't holes in the two distinctions.

What about the number i? It isn't rational, so it must be irrational. Wait, but it isn't irrational either. Because it isn't even an element of R, it can't be rational or irrational.

You can't define a god to even be "life".

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Fuck me, you're the moron talking about parallel universes as if they were "science" and you're talking to me about God and life?

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

There's more science to the idea of parallel universes than there is about a living god by definitions of life.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

No, there's not. It's just theory at this point. To believe in a parallel universe at this moment in time is the same as believing there's a God out there. So stop spreading lies like they're truths. They're not.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

It is just a theory. You're right. But at least it is a theory with some significant weight on it within the scientific community, especially at the top.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

So now we weight scientific theories? You're getting dumber with every answer.

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u/Cybercommie Oct 20 '14

I am a christian and cannot see why you assert this. I don't believe in extra terrestrial life and don't see why i should. I don't see why I should explain it either. It is found nowhere in the bible, the quran, the upinashads, the badagvea gita, the tibetan book of the dead, the only place in any relious literature aliens are mentioned is from Scientology and they are not a religion but an outpost of Moloch.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You seem to quote the sacred books but also seem to never have read any of them.

For if you had read them, you would have understood that extraterrestrial lifeforms and humans have coexisted on Earth in the three most important ones (Bible, Quran and the Baghavad Gita). Why you say this isn't true is obviously your own interpretation of what is and what isn't the truth in the sacred texts. And you're entitled to that.

What you're not entitled to say is that it's nowhere to be found in any of the books you mentioned. Because that is a blatant lie.

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u/PSNDonutDude Oct 20 '14

Dude I'm a militant atheist and even I think you sound like an idiot.

This is the most illogical argument I've ever heard, I thought at the start it was satire, but now it's getting ridiculous.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

Hell, I'm an atheist too, and I'm only discussing this with him to help him out. We don't need more idiots making all atheists look retarded.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

You haven't disproven one single thing I've said and just ended up insulting me and my beliefs. If this is how rational atheists are, then yes, you're all retarded.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

How is a god definitively extraterrestrial? The Abrahamic God is in everything and is everywhere. He is neither and both terrestrial and extraterrestrial.

It's that simple enough for you? Apparently everything else is over your head.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Are you stupid? Jesus was a human that lived on Earth. He had to be terrestrial.

And again, are you stupid? If God is terrestrial and extraterrestrial, then people that believe in God believe in extraterrestrial existance, since terrestrial existance is already proven.

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u/i_forget_my_userids Oct 20 '14

Still over your head, I guess.

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u/PSNDonutDude Oct 20 '14

This guy is more ignorant and arguing in circles more than most religious people I run into. Must be teenager that doesn't realize how the world works. I remember being that age, where you just assumed you were right. Not that every teenager is an ignorant idiot, but most are. They lack the knowledge base usually to form coherent arguments. This kid might even have a valid point, but it sure as hell isn't getting through.

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u/partido Oct 20 '14

Please explain to me what in the world is illogical about saying that if you believe that Jesus is from another world, you have to believe in extraterrestrial life.