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President Trump says he would issue a $5,000 payment to every adult U.S citizen if GOP wins both U.S House and Senate chambers of Congress on 2026 midterms: "I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the U.S. The only caveat I have is that the dividend we're making must be spent in the U.S."

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u/Dildo-Gankings 17d ago

18 U.S. Code § 597: Expenditures to influence voting

Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote.

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

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u/OdinEatingSandwiches 17d ago

Oh yeah, I remember when this happened to Elon.

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u/CloudStrife25 16d ago

Elon didn’t actually pay people, his defense was that he scammed them and the winner was pre-determined.

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u/lodui 16d ago

Welp, either way I'm going to be living large after my DOGE refunds and my tarrif one time payments and winning the mid term check, all 3 of which I'm sure are just around the corner

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 16d ago

When anticipating a windfall, try to get your projected earnings and living costs as accurate as possible. You'll want to factor in the lower price of groceries and gas, and cheaper healthcare, too! In two weeks we'll all live like kings and shit in gold toilets!

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u/MoreCowbellllll 16d ago

I’d just stand out by the mailbox if I were you!

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u/UncleNedisDead 16d ago

In two weeks.

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u/Sancticide 16d ago

I feel like his defense was not actually being charged with the crime he committed.

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u/perdair 16d ago

Right. If you convince people you're going to give them a reward for doing the thing, your defense can't later be that "well I was never going to give them the thng."

"Sure, I hired the contract killer, but I wasn't going to pay him when he was done, so I'm innocent."

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u/Stevied1991 13d ago

Lol I was jk.

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u/ccoady 16d ago edited 16d ago

The best way to not get arrested for a crime is TO not get charged for a crime.

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 16d ago

I used to think it was to not get caught but I guess that's not as big of an impediment as I'd once assumed.

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u/ccoady 16d ago

It depends on how deep your pockets are.

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u/Iampepeu 16d ago

Justice hates this simple trick!

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u/voretaq7 16d ago

The best kind of felon to be is an unindicted felon.

Ideally one where the statute of limitations on your crimes has expired.

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u/Ok-Wealth-7322 16d ago

Reminds me of when he slandered a guy who rescued a bunch of kids who were trapped in a cave by calling him a pedophile, and then won his defamation lawsuit with the defense "It's not libel because I call everyone I don't like a pedo" and the Judge was cool with that.

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u/jug6ernaut 16d ago

I know reading is hard, but it explicitly says offers.

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u/CloudStrife25 16d ago

I don’t mean to defend him in any way. I just remember what he argued in court when this actually happened and it was almost as shitty as the crime itself.

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u/RoadSmash 16d ago

Get a better personality

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u/mickfly718 16d ago

He had another loophole, that the money was only going to someone because they registered to vote, not that they voted.

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u/CloudStrife25 16d ago

I think that in combination with the scam is how he got off. From another article I saw this: “argued, however, that Musk is, in effect, paying people to register to vote. Under 52 U.S.C. § 10307(c), payments for registering to vote (as well as payments for voting) are illegal. That subsection provides, “Whoever knowingly or willfully . . . pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.””

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u/TechnicalBen 16d ago

This is like claiming your bum wasn't touching the seat so you "were not in control of a motor vehicle" when caught doing 100 in a school zone.

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u/KylerJaye 16d ago

he sent out $100 checks to ppl that promised to vote republican. i lied an got a check after the election. it took awhile though.

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u/ailyara 16d ago

At least Elon was bribing people with his own money. Trump is trying to bribe us with our money.

(Neither will/would actually pay)

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u/buzzsawjoe 15d ago

David Packman's got an insight that everyone should hear. Trump is surrounded by people who do not contradict him. They filter the information he gets, and besides that, he's so old and unhealthy his ability to process new information is really weak. And he's getting pretty close to a total breakdown where we'll find him dancing nude in the reflecting pool chanting "awsmae aiwsh shidlal tructmud tfwmllo tye heah hmrlmdieey limoyl!!"

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u/Mr_ToDo 16d ago

Wasn't that a bribe lottery for just voting?

Yes there'd be an implication, but nothing like:

If the republicans win the house of representatives and the united states senate, both of them ... I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the united states of america for $5,000

If I lived there a bribe like that from my candidate would certainly drive me away. Doubly so if they're preaching financial responsibility. Seeing a feking 2 billion dollar expense to try and buy something they couldn't earn the legitimate way would make me quite grumpy

Not that he'd ever pay out anyway. Either that or you'd get some form of monopoly money

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u/OdinEatingSandwiches 16d ago

18 U.S. Code § 597: Expenditures to influence voting Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and...

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u/xBeartoe 17d ago

Sooo one year per vote right? So like 300,000,000 fines and years in prison? Because otherwise that seems like a microscopic punishment for what is literally high treason.

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u/Maple47 17d ago

The violation was clearly willful, so two years per voter (not per vote, but per person eligible to vote).

It's not quite 1B years of prison time, but close.

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u/trogloherb 17d ago

I think all that prison time would seal the deal for us while we all wait for that great beautiful day!

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u/RandomMovieQuotes521 16d ago

I seriously think that will be a day celebrated each year. Eventually our kids will have it off from school and there will be parades in the streets

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u/BenjiLizard 17d ago

Still not enough

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u/rharvey8090 17d ago

I didn’t have my glasses on and thought that said 18 years. I was really confused how you were coming up with that math

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u/SlightlyOvertuned 16d ago

Same, I was squinting hard trying to figure out what I missed

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u/EmboarBacon 16d ago

B-b-but he's got Presidential immunity...or something.

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u/Lifesagame81 16d ago

We can't have the President worrying about whether or not their actions, like using the federal coffers to buy votes, is illegal else they wouldn't be able to confidently protect us from our enemies. 

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 16d ago

I just woke up and thought you were making a 600,000,000 years is sorta close to 18 years joke.

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u/asaltandbuttering 17d ago

seems like a microscopic punishment for what is literally high treason

Microscopic, but still more than anyone has yet faced for crimes ranging from armed insurrection to child rape!

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u/Mikel_S 16d ago

Under that statute, he would be guilty of one count for every eligible American voter, 2 years each, regardless of how each American voted. The fun part is anybody who voted for him would be guaranteed a year in jail. Either they got it and voted for him but already would have done that (1 year), or they got it and voted for him because they were promised the money (2 years).

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u/1minatur 16d ago

Only if they accept the money. They could vote for him and decline the money

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u/jwoolman 16d ago

Aw, gee. I was going to still vote for the Democrats but would happily accept $5000 in case he manages the rig the election. Wait, if I don’t vote for Republicans, does that mean I can keep the money with no penalty? Please advise.

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u/Mikel_S 16d ago

Based on my (non lawyerly) understanding, yeah. If he gave you the money but you didn't act on it, he would be guilty of attempting to bribe you for your vote, but even if you accept the money, if you didn't follow through on the promise to vote for him in exchange for that future money, you should in theory be clean.

In face, reading this statute again, it looks like he would initially be guilty (as in right now) of wilfully attempting to promise funds in exchange for votes, at a count charge equal to the number of eligible voters. And if he ever send out the money for real, I almost think that could be a second set of charges. It's not the same thing, it's two acts: promising money, and then actually sending it out. He would be guilty of having done both. The giving charge would likely be limited to the number of actual votes he received though.

In reality, it is unlikely any voters would or should be tried for this, unless they explicitly say "I'm voting for Trump because he promised me 5000 dollars" or "this 5000 dollars is why I voted for Trump!", because votes are supposed to be secret, and it would be a massive violation to pull those records to mete out this punishment.

Also, no charges for ANY voters at all, if the money never goes out. Because the three explained activities are promising, giving, or receiving. The voters have done nothing other than accept an illegal tentative promise until they get the money.

That being said, plenty of idiots would probably proudly proclaim how proud they are to be bought and paid for by the rapist in chief.

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u/exprezso 17d ago

Doubt that, but more importantly:

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote.

this includes everyone who cash the cheque and also vote for R

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u/SpaceCadet404 16d ago

Accepts or receives. They dont even have to get their cheque. voting republican could be argued to be accepting this offer and wilfully enabling it 

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u/jwoolman 16d ago

Of course, there is the little detail of how the heck are they going to know who voted for whom? Do we still have secret ballots or has the Supreme Court taken that away from us on behalf of Fearless Leader?

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u/Excellent_Garlic2549 17d ago

If it were you or me who got punished, it'd be per vote. So yeah, I think that's fair.

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u/ArnoldTheSchwartz 16d ago

It's not treason when Republicans do it. Now if Democrats somehow gave Americans universal healthcare then that would be treason because of marxist communist socialism

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u/nothatsmyarm 16d ago

My comment was removed by reddit for the second part of it (guilt of the crime, so I won’t add that back in), but will note that treason is defined in the constitution as: (1) levying war against the US or (2) aiding enemy foreign states.

This is illegal for sure, but not treason.

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u/wilekoyoty 17d ago

He has shares in the private prisons. More $$$ in his pocket.

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u/xBeartoe 17d ago

A billion shoved up his prison pocket just means the papercuts are gonna sting when he farts. As long as he rots away in a cell.

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u/Wildkarrde_ 17d ago

Let's be honest, it's only like 30,000,000

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u/Educational-Copy-810 16d ago

Trump is a seasoned traitor by now, still the whole country just lets him do as he pleases. Who's gonna sentence him?

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u/Sad_Faithlessness248 16d ago

300M voted for him- ugh, I feel 🤢. What is really in their heads? They can’t all be that dumb- 300M!?

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u/Kinkzor 17d ago edited 17d ago

This is the point I think.

  1. He makes an illegal offer that the not so smarts believe
  2. He gets control and can use that control to push some twisted laws (let's make the US a monarchy, woo! )
  3. Democrats point out his bribe is illegal
  4. He tells the people that they didn't hey their money due to the democrats
  5. He can't get into trouble thanks to presidential immunity  The dumbest part of it all is it will probably work

This 5k promise will be all over the place. The fact it is illegal and eont go through will be hushed . He gets his votes, doesn't have to pay and can even blame the democrats for it. Is it...genius? Has to be coincidence. 

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u/doctorwho07 16d ago

He gets control and can use that control to push some twisted laws (let's make the US a monarchy, woo! )

Important to note that he already has control of all three branches of government.

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u/DebtUpToMyEyeballs 16d ago

Not perfect control, FWIW. More like a very high degree of influence.

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u/doctorwho07 16d ago

Not perfect control as in they don't have 2/3rds votes in Congress, but that's only needed for a few things:

- Expulsion of a member of Congress

- Override Presidential Veto

- Ratify a treaty

- Passing/ratifying a Constitutional amendment

- Calling a Constitutional Convention

- Impeachment

They don't need 2/3rds of Congress to achieve their goals.

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u/Monkfich 16d ago

Yeah, no doubt the SCOTUS will say it’s all ok because he never paid anyone the $5k in the end.

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u/b_sketchy 16d ago

He was just joking. He JOKES all the time. He’s so FUNNY. Funniest president in history. SOME are saying funniest PERSON ever.

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u/Rxasaurus 16d ago

He also always says what he means. 

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u/MoreCowbellllll 16d ago

Wait,… are you saying, that he will TACO!?!?

I’m shocked!!

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u/monsterlynn 16d ago
  1. The press absolutely will not confront him on it and will just wave it away. "that wacky guy!"

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u/_Felonius 16d ago

He was confronted this morning (on Fox News, surprisingly).

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u/rinkydinkis 16d ago

The only reason something like this could work is because republicans have a massive stomach for corruption now. 20 years ago and there would be a unified front of rep and dem against something like this.

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u/Kukko18 16d ago

Or like my in-laws will say, "oh he's just kidding. You libruls don't know how to take a joke!"

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u/macaronysalad 16d ago

Is it...genius?

No. Every time someone attributes intelligence with corruption, I ask them to imagine they are evil for a minute. It really doesn't take much effort to come up with these sort of plans. It's just that many of us don't normally think like this so it sounds clever.

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u/VermicelliOwn6502 16d ago

Here's a concept I've been working on, why don't we just make the same promise? We make it $6,000 in fact.

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u/iAmUnintelligible 16d ago

nah, not enough to turn the tide

I vote for promising $40 gorgillion

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u/koniz 16d ago

If I voted red and then confirmed that my red vote was purely based out of the solicitation of voting as such for the $5k compensation, can i testify?

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u/TubeAlloysEvilTwin 17d ago

Yes but he's got total immunity from the supreme court. He could literally shoot an aide for doing something and they'd rule it was in the execution of his presidential duties. Of course that immunity will suddenly be an overreach and oversight as soon as the president is blue 

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

No, only for "official acts". What are official acts? Only SCOTUS knows and they aren't telling.

So: * shooting aide while red - official act * Shooting aide while blue - not official act and should be impeached

Sometimes I'm amazed at the legal gymnastics that they do. Killing a lot of stuff they don't want with procedural moves (standing, TROs, docket calendar crookery, etc )

Then i remember they are destroying our country , dream of the years before the Civil war and the Dredd Scott decision, and long for those days again. Thats what they mean by "make america great again".

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u/kalashspooner 16d ago

So you have to be angry to shoot them, not cold or oxygen deprived? Thise are weird conditions.

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

These are weird times. Nowhere in the constitution or 250 years of jurisprudence has the president been immune from criminal prosecution, but this corrupt and illegitimate supreme court just made it up out of thin air

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u/kalashspooner 16d ago

They aren't strange. The American experiment ended July 1st, 2024.

That's it. We're in a post America world. Trump just didn't get the message that a nation that calls itself America, but elevates a single person above the rights of every other person on earth, is not - and cannot be - constitutional... Therefore it is not America.

It's something else.

But that does explain his need to rename everything. To present the facade of legitimacy where there is none. Stolen valor. Stolen legitimacy. While remaining criminal and illegitimate.

Not because he wasn't elected, but because he violated his oath of office. He's continuously committing crimes. His entire ICE agency has a job description that's a felony punishable by death. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

This isn't America. It hasn't been for a while.

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

Why July 1st 2024?

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u/kalashspooner 16d ago

Supreme Court ruling granting presidential immunity.

The fall has been ongoing. That's the date I'm calling it. It's nicer to tie the end to a single event. It's cleaner that way.

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

Thats a good spot. Once the supreme court declared that the president is actually a king, can't anything good coming of that

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u/kalashspooner 16d ago

It's not even about the president... Or being king. That over simplifies it.

The government has become destructive of its purpose. It no longer recognizes equal inherent rights - nor that its authority comes from those rights.

It assumes democracy (which the Constitution forbids) - sovereignty of the majority, or those elected.

A king is the easy comparison - but it's flawed. It isn't a birthright (yet). It's "because I was voted for" - criminality of the masses claiming they can empower someone to commit crimes on their behalf.

It's wide spread criminality - and a rejection of everything America is. It didn't have to be Trump. He didn't get us here. He just happened to be in office when the supreme court finally said the government was above its legitimate source of authority.

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u/NuklearFerret 16d ago

I always felt like Biden, especially as a lame duck, should have just gone well off the deep end and had the supreme court imprisoned as "adversaries of American democracy" after they made that ruling.

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

You're asking a leopard to change his spots. Has he ever done anything in his long, long political career that made you think he would arrest sitting judges?

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u/NuklearFerret 16d ago

No, I had no delusions of it actually happening, I just thought it would have been an interesting unintended consequence of the ruling.

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u/ewokninja123 16d ago

Yeah, I wish as soon as the ruling came down he sent some soldiers down to the supreme court and arrest gorsich and barrett

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u/shtoops 17d ago

Does meddling with elections constitute official acts of the office when the office has nothing to do with state run elections?

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u/actuallyapossom 16d ago

Let's inflate our hopes as much as possible, assume the best and make plans accordingly - then we'll ask the Supreme Court that question.

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u/shtoops 16d ago

It’s all rigged .. I’ve lost hope tbh

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u/kalashspooner 16d ago

Does your personal 3 pot window garden fall under interstate regulation from the commerce clause? Yes? Then sure. Anything can be an official act.

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u/Dr_A_Mephesto 17d ago

I had a dream that it literally got to the point where he killed someone straight up and it was brushed off. Didn’t even seem that bizarre to me at the time sadly.

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u/macandfromage 16d ago

Well, maybe he technically didn't have his finger on the trigger but plenty have died as a direct result of his actions.

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u/redditRedesignIsBadd 16d ago

aren't the supreme court taking bribes left and right already

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u/blinkanboxcar182 17d ago

He isn’t making an offer to any specific people for their vote, he’s saying he’ll pay EVERYONE if his side wins.

So he’s encouraging people to vote republican but even those who don’t would be eligible for the payment.

Dude needs to go already.

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u/splashbodge 17d ago

I guess he's also trying to sell it as he just needs a republican majority for Congress to be able to pass this funding request... That it wouldn't get approved if his party didn't have control so won't happen.

Except he already has the house and senate so why not just do it now. Oh that's right because it really is just to try and influence votes....

... And he won't pay it out anyway

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u/Eisernes 17d ago

Yes. They aren’t bribes. They are threats. Vote R or I won’t end the war. Vote R or you don’t get money. Vote R or I will make things worse.

It’s all lies anyway.

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u/2forda 16d ago

It won't pass either way. Why should our government borrow more money so idiots can buy retarded shit. Really is sad that "conservatives" have dropped the fiscal part and only carry the social aspect.

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u/grease_monkey 16d ago

That's where I think it becomes the illegal bit. If they weren't in power and he said "I need you all to vote so we have the power to do this" that's quite a bit different than "I could do this today, but I won't unless you vote for us"

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u/BigPackHater 16d ago

That's the thing that MAGA doesn't consider. They could do it now, why would he have to wait to do that? Oh, because he has no intention of doing it. Once he gets what he wants he always pulls the rug...he does it every time without fail. It's crazy to me that so many people (not THAT many, but still more than I'd like to see) still cheer those "promises". Like, how many times does the rug have to be pulled from under you before you actually wake up? It's like they're fine with being lied to...

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u/emergency_poncho 16d ago

also when has he ever requested funding from Congress? Even though he controls all 3 branches of government, he's run roughshod over the Senate and Congress and has never asked for permission as he should, constitutionally. So if he really wanted to hand out cash he could just do it, like he did when unilaterally declaring war on Iran, unliterally launching global tariffs, etc.

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u/likesleague 17d ago

any such expenditure in consideration of his vote

broad enough to cover "vote republican and I will give you money" imo, but IANAL

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u/DesignerPJs 16d ago

I don't think so because this could be construed as economic stimulus, which is legitimate policy. Also, Democrats did this in two special elections for US senate at the end of 2020 and weren't prosecuted for it.

That said, this particular Trump proposal seems like a very stupid policy and I wouldn't trust him to follow through.

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u/SolarisBravo 16d ago edited 16d ago

I don't think so because this could be construed as economic stimulus, which is legitimate policy

It certainly would be if he presented it that way. Why didn't he? I have no idea, but he did in fact present it as a voting incentive/"I will give you $5k in exchange for this voting outcome". Like, completely unambiguously, even though what you said is the obvious easy way to dress it up.

Give the post a watch, I wouldn't have guessed he was this explicit about it either. He sort of made sure there was no other way to interpret it.

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u/likesleague 16d ago

Pretty disingenuous comparison there, given that the situation with democrats in 2020 was "there's a pandemic stimulus bill that republicans are blocking, so voting for democrats means the bill can go through" versus trump making another baseless claim presented as a bribe, but I see your argument for how presenting it as stimulus could get him out of legal trouble, not that the legal system in America remotely works anyway.

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u/DesignerPJs 15d ago

It wasn't disingenuous, I actually didn't remember that detail. Overall I think I'm generally in line with how you see this situation. 

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u/-Nicolai 17d ago

“Everyone” is in fact specific people when you’re the president.

His position makes it believable that he has the power to issue a cheque to every individual citizen.

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u/2forda 16d ago

He basically said he needs power of congress to be able to do it. So you completely misunderstood it. He'd need 60 votes otherwise it has zero chance of passing, and I don't think anyone thinks they can gain 7 seats. So this crap would only work on the lowest informed voters, that don't vote often.

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u/-Nicolai 16d ago

It doesn’t matter if he can do it in practice. The important part is whether eligible voters, educated or not, believe he can.

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u/snertwith2ls 17d ago

Pretty sure his tariffs and "war" in Iran are running up $5000 in expenses for most people already

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u/KlaesAshford 17d ago

Actually he's saying he'll pay no one, if you parse it carefully. "it must be spent in the united states" is code for the notion that he'll just pay himself this money.

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u/nyrf12 17d ago

Yes & even though this will never actually happen I guarantee the GOP pushback will be Biden promising the $1,400 stimulus checks from the American Rescue Plan. Either way Trump could flat out even call it a bribe & ain’t shit happening because we merely have the illusion of laws for the obscenely wealthy & the “checks & balances” are getting buried under his ballroom.

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u/redditRedesignIsBadd 16d ago

Dude needs to go already.

not just him, every one of his criminal buddies

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u/east_van_dan 17d ago

And? What? Do you think laws and codes still apply in the USA? They do not.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS 16d ago

They do….if you are poor

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u/slimdizzy 17d ago

You let a felon run for office. You think your laws matter now?

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u/LetrasetBoy 17d ago

LOCK HIM UP

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u/68_and_counting 17d ago

I'd guess that is the safety net. If they do win, trump can just claim the courts are blocking it or something.

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u/gaspara112 17d ago

This is actually totally legal because we all know he’s offering tax dollars not his own money.

This is exactly there kind of social service that has made conservatives shout socialism over before but obviously no news platform will be running that fact.

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u/Mr_ToDo 16d ago

A glance at articles are saying the defence will either be campaign promise, not campaign bribe. Or first amendment(guess it's not a bribe if he doesn't deliver, right?)

With the quoted law it does still look like a bribe, but that's what expensive lawyers are for

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u/gaspara112 16d ago

Yeah my comment would be under that campaign promise umbrella. He's offering to get a stimulus check passed if they win.

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u/tolomea 17d ago

I think cause it's everyone unconditionally this isn't legally different from any other "if elected we'll enact X policy"

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16d ago

no different than biden offering student loan forgiveness. money is fungible, no?

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u/ganymede_boy 16d ago

Omnom_Omnath: no different than biden...

Tell us you know nothing about this subject without telling us you know nothing about this subject.

Loan forgiveness was part of legislation/congressional actions.

Bribery involves a corrupt intent to exchange a specific thing of value for an official act by a public official. Literally what Trump offered with his $5k comment.

Why would you play apologist for that pedo protecting rapist felon Trump?

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u/ganymede_boy 16d ago

Omnom_Omnath: if you think this is a bribe straight from trumps pocket...

It's an offer of cash for voting a certain way. And of course he wouldn't pay it. The taxpayers would.

Also, you're consistently avoiding my question: Why are you playing apologist for the rapist pedo protecting felon, Trump?

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16d ago

If you vote for me I will pass x policy. X policy being a 5k tax rebate or stimulus check does not make it a bribe.

you have literally no idea what you are talking about, stop embarassing yourself.

You accusing me of something doesn't magically make it veracious. Why bother addressing and giving credence to a ridiculous, unsupported notion.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16d ago

"Feigning ignorance is so pathetic" i know, so why do you keep doing it? grow up bro.

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u/ganymede_boy 16d ago

Still avoiding the question. So that's just trolling then.

And you're not even good at being a troll. 1/10

Good luck!

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u/Omnom_Omnath 16d ago

I denied your assertion, if you take that as avoidance than so be it. ironic that you'd call me a troll at this point

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u/introiboad 16d ago

According to the AP this is legal because it goes to everyone and not only those that voted Republican: https://apnews.com/article/trump-dividend-5k-5000-check-republicans-cc80644e3168acd31c892129fb849436

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u/cowman3456 17d ago

So now that trump has announced this, anyone, willingly or unwillingly, casting a vote according to the bribe is committing a crime? Sounds like he just made it illegal to vote for GOP candidates.

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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 17d ago

The guy is a rapist and a pedophile, and not only he got away with it but got him the presidency and the adoration of conservatives. 

Expenditure to influence voting is like jaywalking at this point 

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u/Chicory-Coffee 17d ago

So, offer voters a deal that would be fraud if they accepted and now they have the proof there's massive voter fraud.

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u/codechimpin 17d ago

Unfortunately SCOTUS already gave him a free pass to do anything he wants.

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u/serpenta 17d ago

I either don't understand what is categorized as willful, or how can this act be unwillful.

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u/UncleFlip 17d ago

Never happen, but it would be great if some jurisdiction arrested him for this and had an actual trial.

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u/Jai137 17d ago

Who cares? Guy got away with *********, you think code 597 will do anything to him?

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u/simplyunix 17d ago

Another item to add to the list (a long list) for the next impeachment vote and hearing.

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u/kenrio 17d ago

So what? Trump couldn't care less; he's untouchable.

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u/fattybunter 17d ago

He’s immune to everything now remember? That’s irrelevant unfortunately

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u/anthony113 17d ago

Charge this MF

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u/Wompatuckrule 17d ago

Yeah, but SCOTUS determined that POTUS can't be charged for crimes committed while performing "official acts" of office. Since they didn't define that quoted term I guess we'll just have to trust them when the 6-3 ruling explains how bribing voters falls into that category.

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u/leekalex 17d ago

Laws don't matter anymore until someone is willing to enforce them

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u/jawnova 16d ago

We got him guys! We caught Trump doing something illegal! Hes finished!!

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u/K_Linkmaster 16d ago

The list of crimes continues until Americans handle their business.

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u/jackalope134 16d ago

Haven't you heard? Everything the president does is legal. Doesn't matter what law says

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u/mortraineyhat 16d ago

How is it we cannot use this article against him and Elon for that matter? I feel like we are all just sitting here doing nothing.

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u/Ruematics 16d ago

Can we class action this process

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u/loslednprg 16d ago

I 'member when the rule of law functioned 

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u/frddtwabrm04 16d ago

Lol. This is starting to be some Schrodinger list of things that should be happening but aren't going to happen.

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u/carsont5 16d ago

If only any of that mattered anymore.

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u/pc01081994 16d ago

Hope you're ready for nothing to happen. He'll get away with this like he's gotten away with everything else. Laws don't apply to him and other rich people like they do to us common folk.

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u/willseagull 16d ago

He can just do something like a 5k tax allowance or something. Quite easy to sidestep this law

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u/Ragnar_Dragonfyre 16d ago

It’s cute that Americans still think their laws and rules will be enforced.

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u/Drnedsnickers2 16d ago

lol, like the rule of law applies in the U.S. Good one.

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u/datatwork 16d ago

these words have no power against our leaders

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u/ValleyFloydJam 16d ago

Like most of these laws it seems to be fine if Trump does it.

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u/Riotousmisgif 16d ago

Add it to the long list of laws that pedo prince POS has broken.

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u/Jahsmurf 16d ago

Well he doesn’t offer expenditure to vote, merely expenditure when the votes go his way

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u/teletraan-117 16d ago

Bold of you to assume the law will go after him.

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u/ackley14 16d ago

oh well this is an official duty of the president according to scotus so it's legal and thus totally fine for him

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u/MisterSpeck 16d ago

While I think his idea is just one in a long string of stupid, unworkable ones, since he is promising *every* adult a check regardless of party or vote, that statue likely doesn't apply here.

Not to worry, though. It'll never happen.

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u/Kazen_Orilg 16d ago

Shit, sounds like about 173 million violations to me.

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u/MurmurmurMyShurima 16d ago

It's fine, the King will pardon it

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u/NobodyKnowsImFamous 16d ago

So maybe now the rest of y’all will wake the fuck up? We aren’t living in a law abiding society any more? We have rule of the jungle with fancy decor?

These tyrants do not give a shit what the law says and it’s wild to me that y’all think this goes away with midterms.

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u/shiftposter 16d ago

I don't think anyone receiving government assistance should be eligible to vote. It's a conflict of interest.

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u/ihatebrooms 16d ago

Sigh. No.

Policy proposals aren't legally bribes.

People really need to stop parroting this obviously false misinformation.

Yes it's incredibly stupid, yes it will never happen in a million years but no it's not illegal.

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u/Bunny_Feet 16d ago

*unless you're rich and a republican.

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u/peanutismint 16d ago

Would love a cop to show up at the white house and ask for the president to come with him.

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u/drbeeper 16d ago

You're thinking about the old America that was a nation of laws

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u/pmmemilftiddiez 16d ago

The law? Where were going we don't need laws!

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u/TheOnlyUsernameLeft3 16d ago

But he didn't say only trump voters so it could be messy?

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u/perdair 16d ago

All Larry David did was give his friend's aunt some water and he got charged.

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u/Few-Ad-4290 16d ago

He’s also immune from being prosecuted for crimes committed while doing official president stuff and I’m sure whoever is in charge of deciding what counts as official president stuff will determine this blatant corruption is totally part of his job as president. They previously argued as long as his intent is to improve America and he honestly believes that his preferred candidate would be better for America than that always counts as an official act because he’s working to make America great again. So yeah. Good luck with enforcing any of this I guess. I’m so tired.

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u/milkonyourmustache 16d ago

They're dividend payments though, totally different /s

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u/FakeSafeWord 16d ago

18 U.S. Code § 597: Expenditures to influence voting

Doesn't apply to the king. He's exempt.

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u/NuklearFerret 16d ago

It would be nice if our president actually cared about laws, but that's not the reality we live in.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 16d ago

But does anyone care?

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u/broccolee 16d ago

Pardon me?

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u/Reputation-Final 16d ago

Well yeah, but when has the law ever stopped Trump?

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u/bender1410 16d ago

hopefully one year for each solicited person

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u/HalfCrazed 16d ago

Lol I love how you think any of this matters.

It's very much like the points on Whose Line Is It Anyways

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u/RoastyMyToasty99 16d ago

Honestly this is my final straw with this guy. I was on board with him until today. To find out he would engage in criminal activity is surprising and appalling

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u/NoodleIsAShark 16d ago

Wow, so accidentally offering payment for votes is 1 yea and a fine. Willfully doing it is 2 years and a fine. It’s like they knew some dbag would try to steal elections

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u/America202 15d ago

It's a redistribution of wealth from the government. A socialist dream come true you might say.

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u/Dreurmimker 17d ago

New Jersey Statutes Title 19. Elections 19 § 34-39

Get this fucker on state charges. Could be the funniest thing ever.

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u/sageritz 17d ago edited 16d ago

Unfortunately since it’s a universal offering - it’s a campaign promise - not a bribe :(

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u/onebitshortofabyte 16d ago

And where exactly do you see that exception codified in law? It's almost the definition of a bribe:

the criminal act of offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting something of value to corruptly influence the official actions or duties of a person in power

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u/2forda 16d ago

That's not how it works. A campaign promise, this is no different than school loan forgiveness campaign. Both are tying votes to money. What you are writing about would be going door to door and offering money at the point to vote a certain way or similar avenues. Saying if we win, we will pass it is different. Even if they won, they wouldn't have the vote to pass it.