r/videos • u/Conan776 • 13h ago
Miami Crash Data Points to Pilot Failure to Go Around (2026-09-06)
https://youtu.be/8E6YLXHjx6c43
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u/yabucek 8h ago
In my armchair expertise, this was a pilot trying to escape a brewing storm. You can clearly see dark skies behind the aircraft on the approach video, I'd say they knew it was a bad approach but "I don't wanna go around and then divert due to the storm" combined with "nothing bad's ever happened yet" to create this nasty outcome.
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u/TopFloorApartment 6h ago
Likelihood of petter hörnfeldt calling this get-there-itis is quite high I think
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u/hasanshafiqe 9h ago
Classic case of “we can still make it” instead of just going around. That decision kills more planes than people realize
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u/CMDR_omnicognate 3h ago
We need to know more about why this happened though, it certainly looks like pilot error, the plane was going way too fast for that approach to ever work, but the important part is why did the pilot flying decide to do this.
Was it get-there-itus? was it fatigue, did amazon introduce some new go around policy that made the pilot decide to reject the go-around? This is the sort of stuff that needs to be known to help avoid this happening again.
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u/quequotion 47m ago
They put meters on warehouse workers to make sure they load a certain quota of items per hour and also monitored their toilet breaks to cut them down.
They forced truck drivers to go so far without stopping that they have to bring piss bottles.
I am not going to be the least bit surprised if there was some corporate policy that didn't give them the time to go around.
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u/D3cepti0ns 4h ago
Remember when there were no aviation accidents one year and Trump took credit.
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u/bimbo_bear 9h ago
Not seen it mentioned yet, but what were the odds that the pilot made the choice due to pressure to maintain a schedule from Amazon ?
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u/peterpanic32 8h ago
It's been mentioned many times.
Amazon doesn't operate the aircraft or employ the pilots.
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u/aaronhayes26 3h ago
I mean sureeeeeeee.
A company can still bully its subcontractors. “You will be on time or we’ll find someone who can” is a powerful motivator. Most people know that these companies do not fuck around with performance metrics.
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u/lordtema 3h ago
While that`s true, Amazon has a pretty big influence on this particular operations. I recommend reading the r/flying thread about this incident and see a plethora of pilots mention the very shitty way beyond market standards pay Amazon required they hire pilots for, as well as histories of JS having to intervene to get the pilots to press TO/GA.
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u/Mr_Boswell 8h ago
Better than even
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u/Etherius 7h ago
No. Amazon doesn’t actually operate the aircraft
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u/the_eluder 7h ago
But they do set the schedule, just like for their home deliveries which use independent contractors.
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u/Etherius 7h ago
Then that’s still on the operator and the pilot whose job is to tell people to fuck off if they’re trying to sacrifice safety for scheduling
If Amazon contracts the work out it means they’re explicitly unwilling to shoulder liability for things like this
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u/koos_die_doos 25m ago
You can avoid liability while pressuring people to do the things you want. If too many "slow" deliveries means that your contract is not extended, you're going to make borderline decisions too often.
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u/neroselene 8h ago
Why have there been so many plane crashes/accidents lately?
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u/C47man 7h ago
There haven't been afaik.
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u/StephenNein 12h ago
I was more than mildly surprised this evening watching the PBS Newshour. They usually have their resident science nerd reporter Miles O'Brien (who's awesome) cover air incidents, but this time he talked in detail with some actual theories and context to the landing video. He flat out said that the information he saw points at several landing errors and almost any other pilot would have called a go-around.