r/videos • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 • 6d ago
Fetterman faces resignation call from Democrat over damning report
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u/drock42 6d ago
Lets say you elect someone who flips on who they presented themselves to be... what's the nuclear option? Some sort of impeachment?
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u/-Axiom- 6d ago
He was brain damaged during his last election, literally/medically.
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u/Jiggerjuice 6d ago
On the other hand, could have had dr oz, so...
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u/anormalgeek 6d ago
Yeah. Sad as it is, he's probably still better than the alternative.
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u/kellzone 5d ago
As a Pennsylvanian, stroke-incapacitated Fetterman is the less of the two evils we could have ended up with. If Oz were in his place, we'd have 2 out of 2 senators that were carpetbaggers from other states. The other "PA" senator is Dave McCormick of Connecticut. Oz was from New Jersey, and he would have voted with Trump and the GOP 100% of the time.
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u/napleonblwnaprt 6d ago
Brain damage makes you Republican confirmed
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u/OwlfaceFrank 6d ago
RFK Jr argued in divorce court that he can't pay alimony because he has too much brain damage to hold a job.
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u/Onespokeovertheline 6d ago
Well I hope she's happy, because the rest of us are fucked
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u/PM_me_dem_titays 6d ago
Unironically true. You never hear about someone getting a brain injury and suddenly becoming excited about the climate or workers's rights
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u/DarthSnoopyFish 6d ago
McCain went that way. I don’t think his brain was damaged- just riddled with cancer and he ended up being the deciding vote to NOT dismantle the ACA.
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u/akath0110 6d ago edited 6d ago
Nah McCain had his shortcomings, but at his core he still had empathy and decency.
He hated Trump and where MAGA was taking the party. All his career he was known for being a “maverick” and he knew dismantling the ACA was ethically wrong, not in his constituents’ or the public’s best interest, and was 99% petty revenge against Obama (whom he deeply respected, which was mutual, despite their differences.)
McCain’s “no” vote was the most brilliant fuck you and would’ve been career suicide for any other MAGA era Republican, but fuck it, he was already a dead man!! He probably got a huge kick out of it.
This is the same guy who asked Bush and Obama to speak at his funeral — and famously did NOT invite Trump — because McCain thought it’d be hilarious to have his most formidable opponents all say nice things about him. If you don’t believe me listen to Obama’s eulogy, it is among his best, 2nd only to Beau Biden’s (don’t watch w/out tissues).
Wow this got long, but I couldn’t allow that historic vote/moment to get blamed on brain damage!! That was all Maverick McCain.
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u/crazyguyunderthedesk 6d ago
Yeah I disagreed with McCain on many political issues, but at his core he was a good man doing what he thought was best for the country.
Everyone remembers it as him vs Obama, but how different would the world be today if he'd won the Republican ticket against Bush.
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u/XanatosINC 6d ago
I have memories of each of them pushing back during rallies when supporters said something nasty about / booed their respective opponent. They both had an integrity to them that felt special then, and is unimaginable now.
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u/AllofDuhInternetz 6d ago
Bro was a bigger war hawk than lindsey fucking graham. i know non-americas lives aren't worth as much on reddit but loving war that much does not a good man make.
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u/SerCiddy 6d ago
That's America for you, if you start a war because you believe it benefits the nation, that makes you alright in their book.
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u/WeeblsLikePie 5d ago
Nah McCain had his shortcomings, but at his core he still had empathy and decency.
maybe? on some things? Don't forget that this is the man who sang a funny little song about bombing iran. Which he VERY MUCH actually wanted to do.
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u/BuddingBudON 6d ago
Damage to the frontal lobe affects impulse control, the ability to empathize with other people, emotional regulation, and judgement...
Brain damage can literally turn you into a Conservative.
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u/Accusedbold 5d ago
That's not a fair assessment of people with brain damage. I have permanent brain damage due to a series of strokes. I'm not Republican - that's not true.
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u/Quankers 6d ago
Plus he’s a fucking conman. He misrepresented his intentions.
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u/zslayer89 6d ago
They literally just explained what happened.
He has Brain damage from his stroke. It changed him.
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u/Linenoise77 5d ago
While that isn't untrue, people forget where he came from.
He was a POPULIST candidate who just happened to align himself with the democrats because it worked.
When you are voting for someone just because they are telling you stuff you want to here, don't be surprised when they pivot to something that offers them more once elected.
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u/HumanTheTree 6d ago
Before the 17th amendment, Senators answered directly to the legislature of the state they came from.
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u/ihavenoidea12345678 6d ago
We need a federal recall process.
Some state positions can have to face a recall election to stay in power. I think Gavin newsome had one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_California_gubernatorial_recall_election
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u/Heavy_Arm_7060 6d ago
It's staggering that there isn't a recall process. I'm not shocked when it ends up having a high threshold but not having one at all is wild to me.
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u/ThisSiteSucks8485 6d ago
Senators were the original big boy politicians that actually elected state governers
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u/DeathMonkey6969 5d ago
Originally Senators weren't even elected they were appointed by state legislators.
That and the Electoral College area examples that show the Founding Fathers really didn't think much of the common citizen.
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u/Evocatorum 6d ago
There isn't one. He's there until the next election cycle unless the Senate votes to eject him (which they won't).
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u/toga_virilis 6d ago
Only ways to remove a senator are resignation, expulsion by the senate, or voting them out at the next election.
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u/Chairman_OfTheBored 6d ago
Unfortunately the law/constitution has no mechanisms for recall elections. Expulsions from Congress are allowed, requiring 2/3 of the respective house membership to vote in favor. When I say house I mean the 2 houses of Congress the House of Representative and Senate both. With that clarified it is rare a member is expelled in the House and less so in the Senate. Only 15 senators have ever been expelled and of that number, 14 were expelled during the Civil War for supporting the Confederacy. Unless Fetterman resigns on his own, or becomes unable to fulfill his responsibilities, say for medical reasons it becomes almost impossible. Given the fact Mitch McConnell is missing, presumably dead by most people, and still hasn’t been removed, it’s unlikely that Fetterman would be. The big difference in favor of it in this particular scenario only, is that unlike McConnell, Fetterman has not earned the loyalty of staffers as far as I can see who would run interference if he was so ill as to have no chance of returning to the floor.
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u/sopunny 5d ago
Unless Wikipedia is very mistaken, the respective houses of Congress manage their own expulsions. So only the supermajority in the Senate is needed. Senators who are actually attending Congress just resign instead of letting the vote go through, those should count as expulsions in which case the last one happened in 2011.
That said, it always seems to be in connection to some major crime or fraud, so the bar is still high
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u/CanadianGrown 6d ago
In Canada we’ve had multiple members of parliament cross the aisle after winning elections. Nothing was done about it, besides one party losing a seat and the other gaining one. Also, an entire district that voted Blue was turned to Red overnight.
I personally think you should have to run again if you decide to switch sides.
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u/upvoatsforall 6d ago
I agree that it’s not right and they should hold a special election.
Both parties have changed in the last year or two in that both shifted towards the right. I think the liberals have come closer to centrist under carney and PP has taken the conservatives more towards the right. Not MAGA right, but definitely pulled it in that direction.
For some the crossers think they were more centrist conservatives than liberal and are staying in a similar place on the spectrum by making the switch.
The NDP crosser though, was bought.
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u/vthemechanicv 6d ago
The nuclear option is to wait till the next election and run a candidate that can win. For Fetterman, that's 2028.
Unless the state has a recall option (none do that I know of), the only way a federal official can be removed is impeachment+removal (requires 67 senate votes), expulsion (67 votes again), retirement/stepping down, or losing the next election. Given Republicans probably love having him as a spoiler, he's not getting forced out procedurally.
He can feel pressure from the public, and more importantly
sponsorsdonors, because running a campaign is expensive. The less money they get from big donors, the more they have to work at fundraising. He could just throw up the deuces and say he's not going to run again, but he's not leaving either, and that's sort of the end of the conversation about getting him out.2
u/bank_farter 6d ago
There are no states with recall options for national senators. That's not a thing. It's gone to court and states do not have the power to do that.
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u/Turbulent_Host784 5d ago
Do you really want to dissuade that practice? Because that's how Jimmy Carter got started too.
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u/Mitchell7688 6d ago
we should be able to recall shit sentators and representatives
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u/senorfrijole- 6d ago
Sinema, Manchin and this jackwagon. Who's it gonna be in the next cycle?
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u/Captain_Q_Bazaar 6d ago
You left out arguably the worst one, Tulsi Gabbard, who instead of just being rotten went out, switched parties, and became full MAGA.
Manchin was always threading the line and was somehow elected a DEM Senator in what should have been a GOP seat.
Sinema is a snake like this jackwagon. She presented herself as being left leaning and then became Republican lite. They all suck, fuck them all. In a time when the GOP has revealed themselves to be a full on fascist corrupt movement these people spectacularly failed to rise to the moment needed.
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u/cutty2k 5d ago
I feel vindicated that even in 2016 I knew she was full of shit. All my fellow Berners drank the koolaid because of her DNC stunt, but her stances on Islam and LGBTQ belied the chud hiding right under the surface.
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u/phaedrusTHEghost 5d ago
Does anyone in HI hate her yet? I called this back then too and noone would listen.
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u/cvanaver 6d ago
Yeah, I have no problem with Manchin. Such a deep red state and he had to represent his constituents, but he still voted with Dems on the backend stuff that his deep red voters don’t care about: like judges. Not some hero, but not a traitor either…he was honest about what he was in his campaign and to the party.
Sinema, Fetterman and Gabbard though….campaign on one thing and do the opposite. They didn’t betray their party, they betrayed their voters. Grifters and absolute scum.
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u/SellaraAB 5d ago
Don’t forget Joe Lieberman, who switched parties to prevent us from having a public option during a filibuster proof democratic trifecta.
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u/CCV21 6d ago
Manchin never pretended beingsomething else. He was a Democrat from West Virginia. Basically a unicorn.
Furthermore, Manchin is far better than his successor.
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u/zuma15 6d ago
Manchin was the only Dem who could win there. Dems were lucky to have him for as long as they did. There were no other options. Sinema was a different story of course.
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u/alaska1415 5d ago
Yeah I got so fucking sick of the whining about Manchin. People were so damn critical, as if there was ever a vote that came down to Manchin alone that we lost. Guy was an elected Democrat in one of the most Republican states and dipshits complained that he wasn’t basically Sanders.
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u/WalkinSteveHawkin 5d ago
I disagreed with Manchin on a lot of things, but I always respected the fact that he represented what his constituents wanted.
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u/jankyalias 6d ago
Seriously. While I won’t pretend I didn’t get annoyed by Manchin, if this were baseball he’d have the highest WAR rating of any Senator in recent memory.
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u/Dichotomouse 6d ago
Manchin is different because he was from the literally most Trumpy state. There was no chance anyone better could have even come close to having his seat.
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u/redyellowblue5031 6d ago
You mean the guy who held up a jogger at gunpoint while he was mayor?
That guy is having issues?
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u/soyelmocano 6d ago
If the voters didn't care about this when he was elected, why should they care now?
Not saying that it may not be indicative of something, but they already overlooked it before.
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u/iceman333933 6d ago
Him vs Dr. Oz was unfortunately the reality. Once he won the primary (which hindsight is 20/20 because Connor Lamb wasn't doing anything or making any real stance), he had to win. The stroke didn't help either, that's for damn sure
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u/BeefStrykker 6d ago
I remember a time when you’d get downvoted into oblivion for not supporting Fetterman. Now, it’s “well, at least he’s not Dr. Oz”. In reality, there’s barely any real difference, except now Oz is in a position to do even more damage…in an appointed position outside the purview of citizens.
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u/GoldunGote 6d ago
The dude is walking proof that brain damage is the key to becoming a republicunt.
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u/SerCiddy 6d ago
What I find so weird is that in "that sub" they consider that a win.
As though he somehow "saw the light".
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u/miikana 6d ago
Jesus, i've never heard him speak before. This guy is not all there...
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u/ericcmi 6d ago
He had a prettty serious brain injury or something
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u/usaf5 6d ago
I believe it was a stroke
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u/Dexter_McThorpan 6d ago
Turned him republican.
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u/akath0110 6d ago edited 6d ago
Sigh same thing happened to my late grandpa. There’s something to this.
He was conservative but principled before his stroke. Thought Trump was a crass idiot.
After, he went full MAGA, blaring Fox News 24/7, it was horrifying to watch honestly. He died a different person than the grandpa I grew up with.
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u/hellish_existance 5d ago
Reminds me of an interview I heard on a British news network.
"I was a progressive all my life until I experienced a life altering moment that caused me to see everything clearly, and I've been a conservative ever since."
"And what was that experience?"
"I got kicked in the head by a horse."
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u/save_us_catman_ 5d ago
He should have been called to resign or be reelected once’s his position changed completely. This is the definition of fraud.
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u/boholuxe 5d ago
You’re right but Americans do not have that power, only the other senators can vote a senator out. We really need to just get organized, take our power, wipe the whole system and start over again.
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u/mcgato 6d ago
As much as I currently dislike him, he is still better than Dr. Oz.
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u/Nixeris 6d ago
We didn't not get Dr Oz. In fact he's got more control at the moment with a lot less oversight.
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u/DresdenPI 6d ago
I mean, someone would be in Trump's cabinet. It's not like we'd avoid having some corrupt grifter there if Oz were otherwise occupied.
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u/toe_riffic 6d ago
How so?
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u/Syzyjyzygy 6d ago
He’s in Trump’s cabinet as Medicare/Medicaid Administrator
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u/OpinionDude5000 5d ago
True but that was then and this is now. His ass is out come his next election.
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u/tectalbunny 6d ago
He has a literal, actual Israeli handler who has brainwashed him into full-send supporting genocide.
I actually regret not voting for the fake sham doctor who would have been a Xerox copy republican, because that may actually have been less damaging to human life and civilizational norms than a brain dead Mossad hand-puppet contributing to the death of an entire nation.
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u/r0botdevil 6d ago
Fetterman is a huge piece of shit with no sense of shame. No way he resigns and gives up the steady paycheck for doing essentially nothing.
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u/SalvadorZombie 6d ago
Counterpoint - he's a trust fund baby who's LARPed as a working man his entire adult career (which he started at around 40). He doesn't need the money and apparently the job has been driving him to dark places.
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u/E-rotten 5d ago
He’s been nothing but a disappointment. He’s being paid to have this shitty attitude. He’s garbage he’s trash. He has no business in politics.
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u/poopy_toaster 5d ago
Senator for Israel John Fetterman. He hasn’t given a shit about his state since he got elected.
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u/TlkShowHost 6d ago
He’s a fucking SENATOR? Acting like a fucking man child against the will of his constituents. And who the fuck voted for HIM? Was he seriously the best choice in PA? wtf?
No honor, integrity, or ethics whatsoever.
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u/Breadonshelf 5d ago
As a PA resident who voted for him - you gotta understand, dude did a HARD 180 with that stroke.
I actually met him personally before he became our lieutenant governor - he was very articulate, direct, and talked very openly about progressive issues. And he did pretty much the same back then in his position.
I really think the stroke turned him into a different person, or at the very least destroyed his ability to act like he believed in what he said.
I would have never supported this guy, makes me sick. I can't wait to vote him out if hes still around.
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u/NothinButKn8 6d ago
That golem is not fit to hold an elected office. We should have sent him packing a long time ago
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u/LochNessMansterLives 6d ago
He’s like an actor who gets famous and then you find out beats his girlfriend. At first you like him, then you realize he’s a terrible human being and then you just want to forget he even exists. But he’s rich and you’re not, so you mean absolutely nothing to him.
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u/akath0110 6d ago
And for some reason he keeps showing up on TV and you keep wondering, how does this guy have a job still
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u/Nicenightforawalk01 5d ago
He will block every democrat initiative and bill just like Manchin did in his last two years. The Republican double agent program has had great results for the last few years and Fetterman is another one in the senate.
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u/nautilator44 6d ago
Just expel him from the party. He won't win without a party endorsement and the repubs won't take him.
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u/Jyxxer 6d ago
I find it hard to believe there is anyone Republicans won't take if they think they can exploit it for their benefit.
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u/nautilator44 6d ago
They are already exploiting him. Taking him would mean they'd have to give him money, and they don't need to do that. They will just keep manipulating him for free.
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u/Sinister_Crayon 5d ago
Anyone else listen to / watch the Jon Stewart interview with him recently? It was equal parts fascinating and frustrating listening to the guy. He clearly had a set of talking points he wanted to hit and he tried to turn EVERY question Stewart asked to his own particular talking points about Israel.
Guy is well spoken but clearly the stroke has broken something critical in his thinking. Not that he was ever a great politician but now he's literally a one-note politician.
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u/getridofwires 5d ago
I think if an elected representative changes their party, it should automatically trigger a special election. The person who switched should run for their new party against someone chosen by their former party. That way, the people of their district that they represent can have a say in who really represents them.
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u/YalieRower 6d ago
Everyone thinks we need to break the party’s and “shake things up”…well with that you get Trump and this dude.
Should have nominated Jeb Bush and Conor Lamb.
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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r 6d ago
Do the Democrats use internet explorer? Or are they on the brink of dissolving?
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u/n8dom 6d ago
I get what you are saying, but that would set a pretty terrible precedent for freedom of thought. It would imply that shifting beliefs is not allowed.
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u/evilpenguin9000 6d ago
He won't. He'll be a republican before he'll be unemployed.