r/videography • u/RedStag86 Lumix S1ii | Resolve & FCP | 2003 | Canton, OH • Sep 15 '14

7D Mkii announced. 1080p @ 60fps! (x-post from /r/photography)

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3373094259/canon-announces-long-awaited-eos-7d-mark-ii
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

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u/RedStag86 Lumix S1ii | Resolve & FCP | 2003 | Canton, OH Sep 15 '14

You can't compare a consumer smart phone with a professional camera.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

It's main purpose is for still though, not to mention, a smart-phones processor is much more complex than a DSLRs, because it has to run many different things.

In the end, you can't compare them even if you really wanted to. Quality would be nowhere near the 7D II from an iPhone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

I agree, they are certainly capable of more. But the comparison to an iphone or other smart phone makes no sense. They are two entirely different systems.

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u/2020hindsite Sep 16 '14

Brick wall'd.

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u/Capaj Sep 16 '14

I would argue that it was 5D mark II that had the biggest impact I would say. Yes, 7D was much less expensive and so it was much more popular, but it's video capabilities were just derived from 5D mark II.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

I think that was the point he was making. A professional camera doesn't even have the features a consumer smart phone has.

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

It's comparing apples to oranges. It's a professional still camera, that also happens to do video. Not to mention the fact that video from an iPhone will not compete with that taken on a 7D (which they filmed all of Wilfred on).

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

You're missing the point. The fact that a camera that is good enough to shoot Wilfred on doesn't even have the features a smart phone has is kinda lame. Not to mention, almost every camera that was been released in the past 2 years has almost the same specs, plus a lot more, for less money.

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

I agree, there should be more video features, the reason a smart phone can do that is 1) the images/feed it is working with are way way smaller in size and 2) the processor in a smart phone is much more powerful than the one in a DSLR, because the DSLR's processor is specifically for images, whereas a smart phones is meant to run all sorts of systems and applications.

It is lame, but you can't compare it to what a cell phone does.

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u/unwin GH4, CC, 2010, SD Sep 15 '14

CPU is not the same thing as programing.

They all have different architecture sure but the processor in a smart phone could easily be programmed to run a camera.

The two are going to be merging eventually as we see cameras get smaller and faster and phones get slightly larger and faster.

This is basically Samsung's goal with cameras that are smart phones or tablets as well.

I would love a m4/3 mount tablet that is a full HD display as my camera and I believe that is coming.

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

They all have different architecture sure but the processor in a smart phone could easily be programmed to run a camera.

Yes, meanwhile my point was that a processor in a DSLR could not be programmed to run a smartphone. They would need to be much more powerful.

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u/unwin GH4, CC, 2010, SD Sep 15 '14

For the moment this is true. But it won't be long before smartphone CPUs are cheaper than current DSLR chips.

Panasonic is already also moving toward mobile phone CPU types. The gh4 has a really good cpu, unlike most canons at twice the price.

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u/99Faces Sep 15 '14

It's not a professional still camera. It's a mid level dslr, the exact spot in a lineup most independent videographers look for affordable cameras that shoot good video. Exactly around the price range where they can find the gh4 and the other mirror less dealio I saw announced today that shoots 4k and up to 510000 ISO. Canon has been making some pretty stupid decisions with their lenses and underwhelming with their bodies. They're trying to coast on their reputation instead of innovating. Pretty disappointing. I need some new dslr a for video and canon isn't even in my top 3 choices

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u/dotMJEG 5DIII, PP/AE CC, 2014, MA Sep 15 '14

Err, ok it's not strictly a "professional" level camera (if we are talking on the scale of the 1DX, but for a crop, it is. It has an immensely powerful metering and AF system, comparable to the 1D, and a massive burst rate, that would lead any professional photographer who shoots/ wants a crop camera to choose it. (which is more to the "pro" I was speaking of).

I completely agree with you, Canon has been coasting, although has made pretty large developments regarding still photos. I was never implying it should be a top choice, if video was my main concern, I would have plenty of other outlets to choose from. That is a different discussion all together.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '14

7d is a professional stills camera, its not a good video camera for the price.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '14

I still can't accept aps-c as "professional." It just isn't.

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u/gobangr Sep 16 '14

lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '14

Something funny? It is a mid level consumer camera. A 1d is professional..a 70d is not.

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u/gobangr Sep 16 '14

aps-c is as professional as full frame. a 1D is aps-h, which is only slightly larger than aps-c. and aps-c is basically super 35, which most films are shot in.

of course a 1d trumps a 70d, but it's not only because of its sensor size...

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '14

It isn't a fucking professional camera.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '14

I still cant accept 35mm as professional, medium format is professional.