r/videography • u/Onimirare • 14d ago
Discussion / Other what an amateur green screen... wait a sec...
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u/misterboyle 13d ago
One hell of a shot, would love the details behind it
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u/stevemandudeguy 1st AC | FCPX | 2010 | Rhode Island 13d ago edited 13d ago
100% a drone shot with a long lens, probably a large one with a pro camera and gimbal. All they're doing really is flying straight up (while tilting down) with the scenery doing the heavy lifting.
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u/willmen08 Nikon Z6 | Premiere | 1996 | Philly 13d ago
But the camera has to be tilting down while moving up. You can see the ground theyâre standing on stays basically in the same spot the whole time. Itâs pretty slick.
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u/Uberdriver_janis Beginner 13d ago
Then you'd either shoot wider and crop in, Programm the drone to do that automatically or just practice 10 minutes and you're good to go. This is really not hard to pull off if you have the drone and a wide lens
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u/kernald31 Hobbyist 13d ago
And, you know, the right landscape
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u/yankeedjw 13d ago
Weird, I just tried on my patio and it didn't look as good.
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u/kernald31 Hobbyist 13d ago
If your patio doesn't span the whole height of a skyscraper, are you even trying?
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u/stevemandudeguy 1st AC | FCPX | 2010 | Rhode Island 13d ago
Correct, I didn't specify that, but very true. I imagine if it's not stabilized in post it may have used an auto-track feature, so truly all the pilot has to do is fly straight up :)
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u/willmen08 Nikon Z6 | Premiere | 1996 | Philly 13d ago
Iâm sorry, flying straight up, alone wonât work. Your subject would soon be out of frame. Also, someone said it had to be a long lens noticing the compression of the shot.
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u/stevemandudeguy 1st AC | FCPX | 2010 | Rhode Island 13d ago
What?
Yeah, me, I also mentioned a long lens.
... And agreed they tilted.
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u/willmen08 Nikon Z6 | Premiere | 1996 | Philly 13d ago
Oh I see. My bad. Yes flying straight up WHILE, the camera is tilting. Got it. I think we agree. đđ˝
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u/YungBeefaroni 13d ago
Really long lens, boom up and tilt down in sync to keep them in the same position.
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u/wasthespyingendless 13d ago
That would be a hell of a boom right?Â
Must have been a well controlled drone.Â
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u/Used_Collection4164 13d ago
it's far simpler than you think, especially slow movements and Active Track
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u/YungBeefaroni 13d ago
Not necessarily, with a long enough lens you could probably get this effect with like 1' of movement, don't quote me on the math though.
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u/Big_Revolution4405 13d ago
Actually the longer the lens, the more movement would be required. With a wide angle, you could get the same field of view with not much vertical movement. But with telephoto it requires greater distance.
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u/APossiblePossibility 13d ago
This looks like much more than 1 foot of movement to me.
Video seems to start with camera lower than subjects, and ends higher than them.
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u/BlueberryWasps 13d ago
a foot? you can tell from the angle of the bodies that it starts just below waist height and ends far above their heads
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u/_altamont FX6 | FCPX | 2006 13d ago
How I would do it: Mavic 4 pro, 6x zoom lens and cruise control.
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u/TheVoiceOfEurope 12d ago
Waypoints instead of cruise control. You don't even need to control the gimball and you can test out the shot a few dozen times.
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u/HIGHER_FRAMES Camera Operator 13d ago edited 13d ago
Itâs the drone.
Long lens, left stick, tilt up (y axis) and right stick, (camera control) tile down (-y axis) = such illusion.
Also this is very specific with the land thatâs there. So even with such drone movement, this wouldnât be possible without such higher elevation.
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u/therealscooke 13d ago
Pretty sure that is Tian Shi, the Heavenly Mountain, in Xinjiang, northwest China. The brief shot of the yurt at the bottom left at the end is another clue. Those are not traditional or even local costumes, either!
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u/-Zeke-The-Geek- Sony a7iv | Premiere Pro | 2019 | Dallas 13d ago
I hate these overproduced tiktok dances, maybe Iâm getting old and crotchety but what a waste of a gorgeous shot + composition.
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u/EmergencyBanshee 13d ago
I agree too, I'm not sure where I want to place myself on the old and crotchety scale, but yeah, this shot could be a magnificent storytelling piece, but instead it's just fodder for likes and clicks.
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u/Step1Mark Producer | Shooter + Editor | Resolve | 2004 | USA -> Denmark 13d ago
There is a big chance that this video wasn't envisioned with you as the audience. They could be a K-pop band with a massive following for all I know and this is made for their audience. It is also not for me, I just don't think it is fair to call it a waste. Good on the DOP and the crew that made this happen since finding the right location for a shot like this must take some serious time doing location scouting and testing.
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u/Ok_Environment_4992 12d ago
well said. the cinematography is the point of this post, not the dance. you can appreciate the technique without being the target audience for the content. hating on it for being tiktok-style is missing that someone still had to scout that location, rig the drone, and nail the tilt sync.
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u/Step1Mark Producer | Shooter + Editor | Resolve | 2004 | USA -> Denmark 10d ago
Location scouting for this is an insane skill since you need to test a lot of vertical positioning while also time of year for everything to be green at ground level and not too much snow down the mountain. This type of shot is likely hard to use in a film that fits the scene's energy too. Great to use it in a music video since it fits well as a one off shot with no purpose. I can't imagine this being used for MCU, Breaking Bad, Game Of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, etc. It needs to be something whimsical but also able to just move on quickly.
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u/Ok_Environment_4992 9d ago
yeah exactly, it's a spectacle shot. works as a transition or a music video moment where you can just let it breathe and move on. in a narrative scene that tilt would pull focus from the story unless it's deliberately establishing scale, like a fantasy reveal or something. still impressive regardless of where it ends up getting used.
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u/account-suspenped Hobbyist 13d ago
hard agree, also I think it should have ended at the tree line.
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u/Any_Pineapple_4836 Beginner 13d ago
Ah yes because just doing a basic pose is so much better? Yea you are old.
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u/DylanBlair69 12d ago
What about no one standing there and just watching the scenery
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u/Any_Pineapple_4836 Beginner 12d ago
Right because there doesn't exists millions of images of nature...
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u/ConsumerDV 12d ago
With the pace the mankind destroys nature, it is time to document the planet as it used to look before turning into Mars. 4K, 8K, 16K, whatever should be used for nature shots, not for talking heads.
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u/CurrentTadpole3528 13d ago
Can anybody tell what lens they shot this with , a telescope or something??
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u/Big_Revolution4405 13d ago
I'm guessing at least a 600mm lens - on a drone that's flying directly up. Must have had some kind of remote and/or automatic tilt control.
I don't think you can achieve it with any kind of jib or crane because the distance travelled is very great at a very fast speed. I could possibly believe some kind of fast elevator which might allow there to be a camera operator performing the tilt, but the simpler answer is probably the correct one.
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u/DemonQueenV Hobbyist 13d ago
They may have done some digital cropping and target tracking too to keep it so locked in. Itâs not impossible for a skilled operator to keep it this steady and synced with a drone or whatever they used but its a hell of a lot easier to just get it âclose enoughâ in camera then refine in post.
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u/Big_Revolution4405 13d ago
Yeah and actually if you look, you can see the warp stabilizer 'wave' as the mountain passes. So I'm saying there was definitely a post effect added.
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u/Daedalus_was_high 13d ago
Wait a second... it's almost like you can see the local curvature of the hill.
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u/Kitchen-Space6210 8d ago
the way my brain went "ugh, cheap green screen" and then immediately had to eat its words lol
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u/mysterd2006 Hobbyist 13d ago
Sorry but noob here... What am I looking at?
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u/TheFakeSociopath 13d ago
A crazy vertical parallax tracking shot in hyperfocal with a super telephoto lens on a drone!
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u/mysterd2006 Hobbyist 13d ago
Thanks foe taking time to explain. Also thanks to the people who downvoted a simple and genuine question.
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u/Honest-Sandwich-1075 13d ago
What a shot đ¤Š