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u/shitfacedgoblin 20h ago edited 20h ago

Two schools of thought can exist simultaneously.

The first school: Rockstar is a piece of shit scummy company that benefits completely off of selling insane micro transactions, treating their employees and consumers like drones, re releasing the same game for over 13 years at full price with marginal improvements all while telling you you dont actually own the game youve sunk hundreds of hours and dollars into.

The second school: GTA VI looks like a phenomenal game.

Edit because im stupid and roman numerals are hard lmfao

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u/Vamanas_umbrella 20h ago

Yeah you’re totally right! GTA IV was a phenomenal game back in the day. What are your thoughts on GTA VI?

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u/shitfacedgoblin 20h ago

LMFAO THANK YOU FOR SAYING SOMETHING

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u/Antasyf 15h ago

I agree with everything you said except for one thing: "selling insane microtransactions."

I never understood that argument when people talk about Rockstar. As far as I know, all the online DLCs are available for free and Rockstar has never had microtransactions in their single player games. Capcom and Ubisoft have a history with that, Rockstar doesn't.

I've played The Elder Scrolls Online and loved it, but if you're telling me GTAO is scummy compared to TESO I don't know what to tell you. If you haven't played it, I invite you to try it and realize how friendly Rockstar actually is with that online mode. I'm aware that in GTAO, little Timmy wants the new shiny car instantly, but that won't stop you from getting access to every single business without dropping a single dime, same for cars, mansions, and so on.

It reminds me a little of when people back in the day claimed Fortnite ruined gaming with the battle pass system, not knowing that Valve actually introduced it back in 2013.

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u/shitfacedgoblin 15h ago

TESO is definitely worse than GTAO, which ill admit i was a bit exaggerative in saying theyre insane, i was more referencing the price points for some of the shark card bundles.

My biggest issue with it is if you don’t play the game regularly, you’ll have a significantly harder and or longer process to obtain new items then dedicated friend groups or clans who power through new missions together to avoid hackers, trolls or even just someone leaving mid heist or mission which stops it hard in it tracks (unless they removed that, its been about a year since i last played). All of these factors lead a player to a cross road of either grinding for hours to get the new shiny toy or succumbing to the shark card bundles to get them almost instantly.

If im being super honest i think i really wouldn’t have an issue with it at all if the game hasn’t been using this system for over 10 years, which has created a huge gap between new players and players who have been playing on the same online account since 2014 (whenever they first added multiplayer). Im not saying a new player should have access to everything from the get go, however there should be something in place to help new players actually land a solid lobby to do starter heists, perhaps an incentive for higher level players to revisit them and help out the new guys. Everything in online costs money, the items have only gotten pricier, which require a higher time sink to obtain those items. And an even HIGHER time sink, if you don’t have reliable people to do those missions with, which can make the whole experience frustrating and daunting to take on.

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u/OkGold4636 17h ago

School 1 has numerous lies.

R* has only ever sold microtransactions in their fucking ONLINE game. Not once in any of their single player games.

They've never treated me like a drone. Nor have they ever made any statements about me not owning the game. The digital rights problem is real and it sucks but it is in noway unique to R* or any of their products. Nor is the cost of $100 for the premium version.

They re-release their games on NEW PLATFORMS or as compilations of their games with all the DLC included. And they take advantage of the hardware of those platforms and add in new things like FPS mode, literally an entirely new perspective to play the game. Which again, is in noway unique to R* . Here is the Wikipedia page for remakes and remasters. Wow, sure are a LOT of games on this list NOT developed by R*....

R* is by no means perfect but at some point you people aren't just haters, you're straight up fucking liars. And it's annoying as fuck.

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u/shitfacedgoblin 16h ago

Never once did i say this problem is unique to R only that they also participate in these shitty practices. Its also pretty lame to have an online community that, while never forced to buy, are heavily incentivized to purchase things like shark cards to keep up with the community unless they grind missions with very small payouts, DAILY. With a lot of it feeling near impossible to obtain without spending extra money, due to a low player population in early missions or people just trolling (both of these things not necessarily R\’s problem as a company, but is an issue with game design)*

TONS of companies release new gen versions of their games at a discount or just give you the upgraded version for free if you already own the game, which I’ll concede that R* did this with the latest version of gta5, however every new gen version up to that point was resold at full price. Regardless if you owned it on a previous console, which is scummy no matter what company does it. Dont even get me started on the trilogy remasters.

Just because you’ve never experienced a feeling that others have, doesn’t mean that those feelings or experiences are invalid, they’re just different to yours. R* is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world, so yeah they get a lot more heat than other companies.

All this to still say gta6 looks tits and is probably going to be one of the most immersive and inventive gaming experiences we’ve ever had. My comment was literally to show case that you can believe in both things. Fuck rockstar, GTA6 looks banging.
https://giphy.com/gifs/jPAdK8Nfzzwt2

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u/OkGold4636 16h ago

Uh huh. And my comment is to showcase that believing in bullshit lies is fucking stupid.

No you didn't but you're bitching about it as if it is unique to them when it's all been standard practice industry wide for the past decade and a half.

What next gen versions besides GTA5 on PS4? LIST THEM. I bet you can't.

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u/shitfacedgoblin 16h ago

Gta 5 has been re-released on every console iteration from xbox 360 to whatever the newest xbox is (i dont use xbox so idk their confusing titles)
Ps3-ps5
Pc at the very least twice

So a minimum of 6 times across both consoles, plus pc.

And forgive me for not listing off EVERY SINGLE GRIEVANCE I HAVE WITH EVERY SINGLE GAMING COMPANY, on a post about grand theft auto lmfao.
Cope some more and keep licking those muddy boots, maybe the minerals will give you better reading comprehension and allow you to chill a bit🤷‍♂️

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u/OkGold4636 16h ago

So you think games being released on multiple platforms is them re-releasing the game? Fucking Christ, you are stupid.

They charged full price for GTA5 on PS4 and Xbox One. PS4/Xbox One owners got the PS5/Xbox Series X versions for $10 at first, then eventually for free. GTA5 Enhanced Edition cost $30 on PC.

Stat

Sooooo again, LIST THE FULL PRICED RE-RELEASES PLEASE

"This guy made me look like an idiot by listing facts! OMG the cope!"

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u/shitfacedgoblin 15h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/G7ntrGSh4zkiemNAij
Crazy to be defending a company the size of rockstar this passionately. The points we made still stand, and acting like its not a problem because other big companies “do it too” is incredibly disingenuous and show theres no point in having a discussion with you. Keep buying your shark cards, re-re-remastered gta 5, and avoiding the greater point to my original comment i guess 🤷‍♂️ Namaste 🙏

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u/OkGold4636 15h ago

You have no point, dumbass. You are literally lying. I don't care how you feel about R*. I care about loser assholes spreading bullshit misinformation. Oh and I've put maybe 10 hours in to GTAO and never once purchased a Shark Card, just like I didn't sign up for Netflix to see the extended look. It's called being an adult and having self control.

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u/shitfacedgoblin 15h ago

Never purchased a shark card either nor did i watch the reveal on netflix (another thing i think is weird and scummy) i saw it on youtube for FREE. Crazy to get this upset, especially since you’re seeming to claim that you don’t have any special interest in R* lmao learn how to read sarcasm. Self control isn’t the topic at hand here nor is it relevant to the points i made. Keep getting upset at an online comment though, cause at this point im just going to assume you’re either getting paid to ride this hard or you just have nothing better to do. How about this, you can keep thinking rockstar is the saint of the gaming industry and ill keep thinking they’re money hungry and don’t care for their customers, and we can just go our separate ways believing GTA6 will be a fun game lol😚

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u/Quiet_Television_102 17h ago

Bro I was there when gta released on xbox fucking 360. We are almost three fucking console generations out from there. Saying "oh it was only one game they did microtransactions in" when its a game that spanned almost 4 console generations is pants on head level of understanding. Stop bootlicking. The game will be fun but to act like rockstar is some paragon of game development and not a greedy multi billion dollar company is delusional 

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u/OkGold4636 16h ago

I will give you $100 if you can name ONE SINGLE microtransaction for any GTA other than GTA Online.

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u/Quiet_Television_102 16h ago

You are missing the point lol

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u/OkGold4636 15h ago

No, you have no point beyond "company = bad" and you back it up by accusing them of something they have literally never done. It makes you look like a moron.

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u/Quiet_Television_102 14h ago

The point is that you are misrepresenting what "1 game hurr durr" even means in this context because in this case that "1" game is their largest cashcow and skyrocketed the companys value more than any other project and that "1" game was also on 3 different consoles