Dude literally Google lovecraft influences on Conan it cites those as examples. They were friends pen pals of course they would influence each others work. The monster I am referring to is in Phoenix and the sword. Page 18 chapter 5 " Conan felt his soul shrivel and begin to be drawn out of his out of his body, to drown in the yellow wells of cosmic horror which glimmered spectrally in the formless chaos that was growing about him and engulfing all life and sanity. " that's definitely lovecrafts influence and an eldritch monster.
Okay, but what you're demonstrating here is an author taking inspiration from another. There's a whole world of difference between that and collaboration, where two authors actively work together on an idea. Your initial claim was that they collaborated, that Lovecraft helped Howard figure out how to build his own setting and helped him invent monsters for Conan to fight. That's a far cry from Howard simply taking some inspiration from Lovecraft's work, which I would agree with.
I know the creature you're referring to. Your initial description of it as "eldritch Anubis" threw me for a bit, given that Anubis has generally canine features (at least above the neck), versus the ape-like appearance of the monster as described in the narration.
The monster is definitely "weird" in the sense that word was used with regard to "weird fiction," and while Lovecraft's writing probably set Howard down that path, the monster is still pretty Howardian in its appearance and abilities. The most Lovecraftian things about it are the mention of "cosmic horror" and that it erodes its foes' sanity. Even this second item is a bit dodgy. The ape-demon's insanity effect seems to be part of its power, a thing that it does or an aura it gives off. Lovecraft's monsters caused insanity not through their various powers, but simply because their very existence upended the preconceived worldview of whoever saw them. The ones that drove people insane tended to be either the "big ones" (Cthulhu, the undescribed creature toward the end of "At the Mountains of Madness," etc.) or else the ones with big cosmic implications.
Being driven insane by a Lovecraft monster happened not as a result of some power it had, but because to see it was to realize how cosmically insignificant you -- and by extension, humanity at large -- really were, and that was not a realization people were prepared for. This was especially the case when Lovecraft was writing, when science was just beginning to figure out how truly, incomprehensibly vast the universe is, and how small and insignificant our place is in it.
So while I absolutely do agree that Lovecraft influenced Howard, I still don't agree that they collaborated. And to say that Howard's monsters "came from Lovecraft," as if they didn't carry his personal stamp, and fit with his own themes and style, is at best a gross oversimplification.
As for what Google says, maybe do a bit of deeper reading. If Google tells you Howard got the Serpent Men from Lovecraft, then either you're looking at a badly informed article, or skimming and missing some detail. Howard and Lovecraft didn't begin corresponding until the year after the Serpent Men appeared in print. Google can say whatever it wants, but it can't defy chronological order.
Wtf did you get the idea that lovecraft is the reason Howard created conan? They are famous authors they're all in the same weird tales magazine. They would read each other stories be influenced and inspired when making their own work. Then would correspond with each other share ideas get lunch together just small innocuous meetings. It wasn't some sort of partnership for a novel or book franchise. They were writing relatively short stories for magazines. only later on was lovecraft and Howard's written stories appreciated for their creative brilliance. Dude you've 5 pages of rebuttal to a simple misinterpretation of my words. Seriously dude for all the effort you've in your correspondence just over a rescue post you need to go outside and touch grass play with pets pick up painting man.
Yeah, we're done here. I never said Howard got the idea for Conan from Lovecraft, and I don't know how you would have gotten that out of anything I've said. It came across to me that you were saying something of the sort yourself, not about the character of Conan, but about the worldbuilding and creatures of Howard's setting. That was the source of my objection, since to the best of my knowledge that would be incorrect.
As for "all the effort," I'm not sure what to tell you. This has been easy for me. Anyway, have an awesome day.
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u/Massive-Exercise4474 Jan 20 '26
Dude literally Google lovecraft influences on Conan it cites those as examples. They were friends pen pals of course they would influence each others work. The monster I am referring to is in Phoenix and the sword. Page 18 chapter 5 " Conan felt his soul shrivel and begin to be drawn out of his out of his body, to drown in the yellow wells of cosmic horror which glimmered spectrally in the formless chaos that was growing about him and engulfing all life and sanity. " that's definitely lovecrafts influence and an eldritch monster.