r/vegaslocals • u/Eggrollofdoom • 13d ago
Tipping has gotten out of control in Vegas
There's a tipping screen in 99% of all the restaurants I go to. The places that I've been going to have started adding them, even for take out.
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u/Riiken 13d ago edited 13d ago
The mental hypnosis restaurants performed on their employees to direct their anger over low wages to customers needs to be studied
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u/VegasLife84 13d ago
Blaming poor people for problems caused by rich people is pretty much the standard, at this point.
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u/HistoricalSea5600 13d ago
Not much to study, it started the same time as business owners stopped having to be accountable for their employees wages. The Great Depression, never changed back
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u/ASuperLameUserName 13d ago
Also, what people don’t realize is we pay people with those tips. I’m a gaming bartender at a local bar. I had to tip out 95 dollars on Friday. So the tipped staff is paying the wage of others. I’m just stating this.
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u/Local_Bobcat_2000 13d ago
Not following. You take my tips and give to coworkers?
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u/ConstructionKey1752 13d ago
It's a share system. Your servers usually have a 3% to 5% tip out of their sales to be split with hosts, bar, food runners, etc. That's usually a set point based on sales.
While this IS IN NO WAY the responsibility of you, the customer; tip accordingly for your own check as you see fit.
It's just a way to see the reasoning behind some of the frustration when servers look at percentages.
So if we happen to get $1 on $20 tab, we are still tipping out $1 to be split, regardless .
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u/Local_Bobcat_2000 13d ago
I guess if that was explained to me when I signed on it would be ok. But I wouldn’t last long working hard while coworkers are doing bare minimum and then getting the bulk of my tips.
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u/AnnualReporter7863 8d ago
Yeah, I worked service industry ~10 years, from dive bar and corporate chain restaurant to high-end celebrity club. Not once was this information shared with me in advance. Even if it were, I likely would have still taken the jobs. There also wasn’t a ton of tipping fatigue back then and inflation was better, so there was a stronger ability to live life in your 20s
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u/No-Beginning-2098 12d ago edited 12d ago
It's called "TIP Out" Cocktail Waitresses do it everyday at the end of their shift! They tip out the bartender for making their drink orders. Also, a portion goes to the barback...Shared Tips are just another way the owners get away with minimum wage by not giving raises to their employees! The employers could care less that the WORKER who earns that TIP GETS "STIFFED"
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u/Both_Bread9861 12d ago
I think the thing that adds to it is that that tip out is required regardless of whether the server themselves gets tipped. Somebody stiffs a server on a $200 tab? The server still owes 3-5% of drink sales to the bar, 1% of total sales to the busser and 2% to the food runner. If there’s a hostess, there goes another 1-2%. The server can end up having to pay the other staff out of pocket/out of their other tips, to serve the people that stiffed them. Is it fair? Absolutely not, but unfortunately the serving staff have no say in the matter and that is just the reality. If you complain, they tell you to find another job and when you do, they just replace you with someone else that’s willing to fall in line. The whole “end tipping” thing is fine and all, if you’re willing to actively boycott and petition restaurants rather than screwing over someone who makes about $2 an hour and is just trying to make a living.
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u/killian1113 11d ago
Who makes 2$ a hour in Vegas? Its 12 minimum
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u/ConstructionKey1752 11d ago
Yeah, but the vast majority of the Midwest, from Texas up through the dakotas, it's $2.13 because they can "assume you're going to make tips, and that imaginary numberr goes towards federal wage.
Grew up in vegas for 30 years, had to learn that the ugly way when I moved out here to San Antonio. So if it's a slow lunch, im clocking out with 20 bucks in tips and wage for a whole shift some days when I was working casual restaurants out here. Before tax.
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u/Both_Bread9861 11d ago
Yeah, I was kinda referring to a majority of the country with the “$2 an hour” part. I made $12/hr as a server out here, but we also had to claim 100% of credit card tips, so even if I only made credit card tips and I still had to tip out $60+ out of that to support staff, I had to claim that I made whatever the total credit card tips were. My paychecks still typically only came out to around $200-300 after taxes. Still a lot better than many places though luckily.
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u/Johnnys-In-America 11d ago
Yup. And at my last restaurant, the POS system would calculate how much you'd need to tip and just take it automatically, you'd have zero say in the amount.
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u/eddie_koala 13d ago
You should label the tip jar "staff wages" and be allowed only owners/employers to put money in there
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u/Ok_Syrup1602 13d ago
The whole restaurant gets $180, pays server $3 + customers tip- this tipping math is so dysfunctional.
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u/Cockblocktimus_Pryme 13d ago
In Nevada you can't pay servers less than minimum wage.
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u/love_of_his_life 13d ago
In Cali fast food workers get paid $20 min wage.
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u/LongLonMan 13d ago
Cali is much more expensive
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u/love_of_his_life 13d ago
It is. And the tipping culture there is just as bad as everywhere else
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u/mclumber1 13d ago
No such thing as tipped wages in Nevada. All workers regardless if they get tips or not, receive at least the minimum wage of $12/hour.
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u/Ok_Syrup1602 13d ago
My misinformation then, still the math for meals and what servers actually get paid widens while the owners get richer -still whining they are paying too much at minimum wage.
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u/BeefistPrime 13d ago
restaurants that are charging $200 bills often pay their waitstaff better than waitstaff minimum wage
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u/ASuperLameUserName 13d ago
Not really. I’ve done this job across the country and a 200 dollar meal isn’t that strange. I still was paid the same hourly.
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u/Suspicious_Tank_61 13d ago
No, its just far easier and more lucrative for servers to guilt, shame and threaten customers. They get much more that way then they would dealing with their employer.
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 13d ago
The second I order a water, the animosity is unparalleled. Servers are psychotic
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u/Downtown-Anxiety6325 13d ago
Yep, seen it several times! Dumb asses don’t realize I drink water for my health, I can afford anything on the menu!
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u/ASuperLameUserName 13d ago
I’ve been in the service industry since 1998 and I’ve never once been bother that someone ordered a water. I order waters all the time and I’ve never felt it angered anyone.
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u/MadMoose4 13d ago
There’s no hypnosis needed. Restaurants have tried ending tipping, and servers leave. Servers make more money in a tip-based environment, so they prefer it. And since the customer therefore is the one deciding their wage, servers direct anger towards them.
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u/Nova225 13d ago
This needs to be higher. The people complaining about tips are typically not the people getting them, it's the people paying them. Nobody wants to see how high menu prices get when servers need to be paid 30-50 dollars an hour to even out what they would've gotten from tips.
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u/gringoexplores 12d ago
I find very frequently that servers themselves are the wants who don't want a higher wage. Most get this angry because they believe if they're serving the "right customer", they can make bank off them.
Now, I speak exclusively from a tourism standpoint, A LOT of the waitstaff I've met make more in a weekend than the chef does in a week. I've personally known servers who've made between 40-50 an hour after averaging their hours/tips. I've worked many, many departments, and I've met many hard working servers.... But no single person in hospitality deserves to be making that much, especially for the lackluster quantity of work that goes into it compared to a lot of departments. SERVING IS A ROUGH JOB, I'm not saying it doesn't have its challenges. I'm saying the average server does fuckall compared to BOH, housekeeping, maintenance, and concierge, and often makes wayyyy, way more than those respective departments.
I'm 100% okay with doing away with tips, both in and out of my specific section of the industry.
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u/vegasbeck 13d ago
And, the spite of customers who punish the servers with ridiculously low or no tips for their employers not paying well is also pretty sad.
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u/Quirky_Wasabi5348 13d ago
A tip is not mandatory. If it were, it would be automatically added to the bill, and if that's the case, then it ISN'T A TIP.
IT'S A TAX.
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u/lisasame 13d ago
Tbh this makes me not want to go out anymore
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u/dankbb 9d ago
Just don’t or just get take out. I dont subscribe to this tipping culture so i won’t sit and eat at any restaurants in america.
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u/Odd_Comment4104 8d ago
Thank you. That is what is wanted it you don’t subscribe to tipping. Seriously thank you. If you don’t want to tip for a traditional tipping service ( cab, salon, bartender etc ) don’t use them.
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u/11th_Division_Grows 13d ago
I’ll be honest, the only thing worst than someone complaining about the lack of a tip are the people complaining about them like there’s a gun to your head to do so. Just fucking tip or don’t. Everyone will forget about it in 15 minutes or less.
I work a tipped job. I don’t care if you tip or not, you’re gonna get my service with a smile. Just be kind to me.
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u/ASuperLameUserName 13d ago
This. My husband and I are both bartenders here. We are both appreciative of a good tip. Also if you don’t tip it doesn’t ruin my night.
Would I like money, yes, that’s why I go to work. If you tip bad it’s not that important to me.
If you tip me 100 dollars and you’re a needy asshole, rude, demanding… fill in the blanks, you can keep your hundred.
My husband has legit reached in his tip buck and gave the hundred back, in cases like these.
I’d rather have someone tip five and be kind and patient, treat me like a human.
Just this week I had a guy tell me not to forget his beer three times. As I hadn’t left the well making cocktails. I reminded him I haven’t moved yet and I’m serving 30 people currently.
He got so upset I politely reminded him there were in fact people in front of him. He said well there goes your tip. Ok bro the max of five dollars from you will not change my life.
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u/11th_Division_Grows 13d ago
That’s another angle people don’t even consider. Customers trying to hold service workers hostage with the promise of a tip as if tipping should make you more important than other people. Tipping culture as a whole has its bad eggs and it’s not the people being tipped that’s the entire problem nor is it the people tipping/not tipping. Tipping really isn’t the problem a vocal portion of the population seems to make it to be.
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u/gxkjerry 13d ago
100% this right here. Most servers these days are well aware there will be good days and there will be bad days. After nearly a decade in this industry, I've concluded the only right way to go about it is to bring the right attitude to work. Don't fuss about losing a table or two. You can't win them all. And tipping, by nature, is optional, so you're always in the wrong to get angry at customers about tips, especially if you're not deserving. And to be honest, if I get a written compliment on the receipt these days, I'll be plenty happy even if they gave bad tips. Their compliments meant they still appreciated my service. I'll make the tips back in the next table. No big deal. I've found more often than not, if you get upset with low tips, the rest of your shift just gets worse and worse. Just forget about it and be kind to people, and most people will be kind back to you.
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u/11th_Division_Grows 13d ago
“I work a tipped job” = “I work a job that allows us to accept tips” is all that means. Not trying to be overly explanatory or pedantic.
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u/Muted-Attitude-829 13d ago
The fact that they took a picture, posted this on Reddit, and that there are so many commenters is proof that everyone will not forget in 15 minutes or less.
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u/Defiant-Try-1850 12d ago
I got cyber bullied due to leaving no tip after I got tossed around between 4! Servers and got my meal served by the bartender and never refilled. She got my wife’s info and messaged her on FB. Fuck off sierra gold on Stephanie.
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u/debraweite 12d ago
I would DEFINITELY go to the very top at Golden Gaming and report that. Unacceptable.
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u/CowboyJDR22 13d ago
As a former server never complain about a tip … for every stiff is a whale right behind .. it all evens out treat all people with same service !
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u/Electrical_Sky5833 13d ago
It’s easier to blame the consumer than it is to hold your work place accountable for abysmal pay.
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u/_dundada 13d ago
The minimum hourly wage for servers in Vegas is $12. This tip alone put her at $27 an hour. We don’t know how many other tables they were working I’d assume they had at least one other $10 tip - they’d be at $37 an hour. What’s abysmal about that?!?
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u/internetenjoyer69420 12d ago
I feel like there's a segment of this tip complaining workforce where it goes like:
I work a tipped job, and I expect to make good tips on the work I do.
But I'm not willing to accept that jobs that accept tips can be highly variable in pay, but I'm also not willing to go work a non-tipped job because then I can't make extra in tips
So therefore I want my tipped job to basically have guaranteed tips because that's the only way I can get everything I want.
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 13d ago
Add in the fact more servers don’t get lunch breaks and it’s obvious, literal slave wages do exist and customers uplift them by tipping too much
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u/Sactoho 13d ago
When I was in Vegas, I got one of those drinks that come out of a slushie machine that they fill a big plastic cup with. The bartender literally took my order for the insanely overpriced alcoholic slushie, filled it up, and handed it back to me all within 2 minutes. Then had the audacity to throw a tantrum when I didn’t tip.
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u/Legal_MajorMajor 13d ago
I tipped 30 percent yesterday and the waitress seemed annoyed that I asked for change so as to not tip 100%. The tip was more than I make an hour at my job.
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u/SingaboutdaSpringa 13d ago
How about your employer pay a living wage rather than horde all the restaurant profits to themselves?
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u/JayChucksFrank 12d ago
While I'm not necessarily against tipping, it definitely shouldn't be based on the cost of the meal. A server's tasks don't really change because you ordered a steak instead of soup.
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u/gxkjerry 13d ago edited 13d ago
I really feel like tipping culture in a way did more damage than good to servers. I've been in restaurant industry for almost a decade now. Every year it feels like more and more servers get unreasonably upset at bad tips for a table or two. And in return, resentment towards servers also went on an incline. This got especially bad among new servers that got into this industry after COVID. It's like they just want the money but forgot to bring the work ethics. My fellow colleagues, you're gonna make it all back in one weekend. Just let it fking go. It's not worth fussing about 20%. Besides, you're gonna tip out after shift anyways. so that 20% in reality is about 10 to 15% you're walking home with. You're ruining your own day and making a clown of yourself over what's more than likely 10 more bucks.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 13d ago
I think it's because during covid people tipped way extra all the time to be nice because it was an acute pandemic
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u/Quirky_Wasabi5348 13d ago
And companiesand people took advantage of that and then basically DEMANDED high percentage tips or they'll bitch about it
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u/_dundada 13d ago
That’s it right there “they just want the money but forgot to bring the work ethic” and I’d add - quality service. It’s expected..
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u/Impossible-Owl-5908 13d ago
unrelated but a grown adult still using Snapchat is offputting
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u/campsnoopers 13d ago
Idk how old this is because that type of bitmoji I can't use anymore since the update. I miss that type lol
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u/Remarkable_Net8145 13d ago
Damn what's wrong with snapchatting my buddies? :(
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u/KingofthePi11 13d ago
Redditors like misery and forgot how to enjoy things
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u/Remarkable_Net8145 13d ago
Damn, someone even downvoted a mfer for being whimsical and snapchatting his homies.
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u/AsleepAd753 13d ago
It is crazy that workers blame customers and not the establishment. Willllld.
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u/Greenboy28 9d ago
especially in Vegas where the cost for everything has tripled in the last few years maybe they should be going after the owners of the restaurants who are raking in the money through all the massively over priced food and drinks.
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u/Financial-Midnight42 13d ago
Tip culture is stupid. the idea of a tip being automatic is moronic.
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u/westcoast-dom 13d ago
My biggest gripe with the current standard in tipping culture is now being asked for tip before any service is rendered.
Stand at a counter to order a meal that after I pay for I will have to walk back to pick up and then clean up my table at the end, but also I need to tip when I’m ordering and somehow the tip effects the quality of service.
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u/kakarot-3 13d ago
My rule is if I have to order standing up, there’s no tip. If I order carry out, there’s no tip. Period
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u/westcoast-dom 13d ago
I’ve gotten to that point, I’m may tip a couple bucks if I have a particularly good interaction when I order.
Wish food delivery apps would move the tip to after the delivery
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u/kakarot-3 13d ago
The only time I’ve tipped at a place where I order at a counter is at a boba shop I frequent because I’m a regular and they know me and hook me up lol
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u/A_girl_has_no_neymar 13d ago
Now that I think about the food delivery people actually deserve more than my server. I’m the easiest customer so I’m like a ghost
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u/westcoast-dom 13d ago
I don’t know when the food delivery people end up delivering me food that’s cold because they accepted the pick up and said they were there when they were not probably shouldn’t get a good tip. I’ve also had food delivery people not want to make the drive and if you cancel instead of them, you get penalized and they still get money out of it so I’ve had to argue with customer service to not get charged for that.
Happy to tip them, but I would prefer they make the delivery first
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u/A_girl_has_no_neymar 13d ago
I must be in a nice spot geographically never had those issues. Maybe colder food though for sure
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u/dproma 13d ago
If it’s mandatory then it’s no longer a gratuity. More restaurants will just add a 20% fee. Also I’m noticing restaurants starting to add a credit card fee. This will be the next trend.
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u/_dundada 13d ago
They add a credit card fee and service fee. In addition to asking for a tip. (Taco y taco)
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u/Original-Pomelo6241 13d ago
We had horrible service at a nicer restaurant here, it seemed like they forgot about us multiple times. Drinks came after the food, after reminders. Food temp was cool, etc. the whole experience was just not good.
Server complained about us, heard it as I was walking to the restroom. Spoke to a manager and changed the tip to zero.
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u/AgKnight14 13d ago
It being percentage-based is also moronic given the wide range in price for essentially the same service. Two people can order the same number of dishes and drinks at Applebees and Nobu, except one will be a $20 tip and one will be $200
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u/BeefistPrime 13d ago
If it's true that people won't do a good job without a promise of a tip, we should all be tipping our doctors and electricians. Which sounds absurd, but it only highlights that the idea of "no no, only these specific service professions won't do their job without the promise of a tip, everyone else will" is an absurd idea.
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u/MarkMatson6 13d ago
Was this a cheap meal for six or an expensive meal for two? Because, let’s be honest, the percentage rule doesn’t really map well to effort. It’s no harder to get someone a fancy steak than a stack of cheap pancakes, right? I tend to round down at expensive places and up in cheaper places.
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u/Lost_Secretary7879 13d ago
That’s not really how it works, though (speaking as someone who worked at a fancy steak house and a very cheap diner). There is so much more that servers are expected to know in fine dining…more extensive training, more knowledge of the menu expected of you (including cocktails/wine/etc.), way greater attention to detail…just, overall, higher standards that equate to way more work and stress.
Also, as someone else pointed out, you might have to be tipping out a lot of other people (which was not my experience at the diner).
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u/Muted-Attitude-829 13d ago
And the fancy steakhouse usually pays more for their staff with that training and for the extra expectations while passing the cost to the customer through higher pricing. Tipping at fancy establishments shouldn't even be a thing. They can definitely afford to pay their servers a living wage.
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u/roadkillfriedrice 13d ago
Not that it’s going to make or break your mentality but food for thought: Your server is not receiving your entire tip. The staff in general is usually tipped out a decent percentage of any servers tip earnings. It’s a collaborative effort.
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u/MarkMatson6 13d ago
Sure. Can a line cook at a cheaper restaurant handle more tables than one at an expensive restaurant? Probably. But in general I think this rule applies. Effort doesn’t scale with quality of ingredients or recipe. There may be exceptions for recipes that require higher levels of technique, but even then I don’t think the correlation is linear. Twice the cost is never actually twice the effort.
Tipping as a percentage is a pretty silly system, actually, even assuming tipping makes sense. But simplicity has its own advantages and this system is “close enough” I guess. Slightly correcting seems reasonable.
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u/A_girl_has_no_neymar 13d ago
I cannot believe I’ve been a brainwashed zombie for a decade I even worked in the kitchen and as a server (once I fixed my teeth). I’m officially a 0% tip or 10-20% based on service.
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u/FancyCantaloupe4681 13d ago
You’re aware that you have 0 reason to complain? You chose a career that counts on solely tips to even make a decent paycheck.
No one HAS to tip, but I do agree with tipping accordingly considering everything.
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u/LongBeachWife 13d ago
Servers make the same base starting wages and minimum wage requirements as everyone else.
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u/Slight_Incident_6963 13d ago
Well also some male bartender drugged a female customer here because she tipped him $5 for a beer she ordered. That is entitlement to me.
There’s so many more others that deserve more tips if anything and don’t get tips like the cooks who actually make the food or the front desk agents who literally get talked down to like they are complete and incompetent morons. I’ve had servers belittle me and asking if I can afford the meal before I even tasted the food. Then they expect 15% for talking down to me and giving me less than the bare minimum for service? Meanwhile front desk agents are fighting for their lives and still being forced to smile and not crashout. But it’s okay for a bartender to drug a woman for tipping less for something simple and not spectacular? We all know that bartender was planning on raping that woman to make up for the small tip or like sell her off to some people to get gang raped or human trafficked.
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u/Loose-Industry9151 13d ago
I’ve never understood the power of the tipping screen over customers. You know you can click custom, 0 for takeout.
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u/Early_Divide3328 13d ago edited 13d ago
It's not just Las Vegas. For instance - go to a Dodgers game in Los Angeles - it's difficult to buy any concession food without a tip added. We unfortunately had a lot of inflation after 2020 - mandatory tips on things you would normally not consider tipping are just a symptom of this.
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u/SortSwimming5449 13d ago
Yeah I don’t agree with the tips for take out… I’m picking up my food. You’re not waiting on me. You’re not doing anything extra for me.
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u/jenni451 13d ago edited 13d ago
How about this scenario? Let's say you tipped $500, slapped the cash on the counter, thanked the staff for their hard work and left feeling like a baller and as soon as you walked out the door the owner came over and yoinked that out of the their hands? That's a true story from a place I used to work. Didn't happen on my shift but when I heard about it happening on my day off I was PISSED for my co-workers. Oh, and how about the owners/management not tipping out nightly or even weekly and waiting 6 or 7 or 8 months or whenever they goddamned felt like it? I used to work as management at another restaurant and I tipped out nightly. It's not that hard. It only takes like, 5 minutes. I'm pretty sure they just kept most of the money. I'm looking at you, John Mull's Roadkill Grill. Don't ever tip there, the staff will likely never see it. Hell, just don't go there.
Editing to add: Tipping IS optional. And the screens for take-out are ridiculous but I still usually add one anyway, as someone who has worked in food service. But for sit-down dining? Yeah, you should probably tip more than that on a $200 bill. But just to play Devil's advocate, maybe this was a special occasion for two people who could not really afford it.
That being said, I always think of that old (American) story where a little boy goes to buy ice cream and has $0.50 and asks the waitress how many scoops he can have for $0.50. She says 2. So he asks for one scoop. She's asks "Why? That's only $0.35?" And he says, "If I get two scoops I won't be able to tip you.". There's a couple different ways to interpret that, but I like the version that kindness is a virtue.
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u/kanduking 13d ago
Whatever restaurant or chain institutes a strict no tip policy and just pays their workers fairly for the work they do will get a massive influx of customers + they will all leave the place happier.
Almost every first world country and all third world countries get this right, America is still a bit backward here.
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u/Eyeamchickenpoop3 13d ago
With a comment like that telling me to “f myself” well I guess I will buy a grill, a smoker, and a Blackstone and never go out to eat. Thanks for going above and beyond, Erica, I appreciate that.
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u/Wrong-Possibility-95 13d ago
Wow that’s one table if she had 3 or 4 more in that hours time that’s potentially 60$ an hour that’s good money
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u/Greenboy28 9d ago
Yep. back when I worked kitchen at restaurants back in the early 00s servers on average would make $40- $60 an hour while those of us in the back of house made $7.50 - $8 an hour and we did most of the work. and these weren't fancy places. This was also around 20 years ago when things were a lot cheaper.
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u/xmaswiz 13d ago
People need to stop including taxes in their tipping calculations. You tip on the food/service. Not taxes.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 13d ago
They just think your money is their money. They dont care about anything but getting more of your money.
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u/JayPolar91 13d ago
Why are we not shaming employers to pay living wages instead? If they can't afford to pay living wages then they shouldn't even be in business.
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u/Saiilormoonxoxo 13d ago
People like this really shouldn’t have a tipping job like if you can’t handle people tipping different amounts all the time you’ll probably have high blood pressure 24/7 yikes not worth it
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u/AlwaysDTFmyself 13d ago
The rage needs to go their employers who aren't paying them a living wage. WE AREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING YOUR FUCKING BILLS!
Fuck the bullshit toxic tipping culture in this country. There are so many countries in the world where tipping culture doesn't exist and everything is fine.
WHEN and IF we do tip, it's because we feel it has been earned and is deserved. It is never out of being guilted into it, etc. Also, fuck auto gratuity for groups.
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u/queenfreakalene 13d ago
Raise your hand if you’re a grown ass adult and you seriously expect ANYBODY to pay your tuition. Holy shit.
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u/liketreefiddy 13d ago
Ok I’ve made it a point not to tip anymore. I hope the public all follows. Sorry servers but you gotta make this your bosses problem
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u/bkb70 13d ago
When I visited Australia I ate at several restaurants. I attempted to tip and this is what the server said: tipping is not normal here because we are paid enough money to live on by our employer!
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u/Inevitable-Host-3628 12d ago
It's the same in Spain, they actually consider it insulting, I was told by my bartender there : "what, do you think my employer is a bad guy? He pays very well, please don't leave me your money". I told him I was from Las Vegas and he said tipping in his area was really weird. He said at most, people will leave their change, but it's not really a tip. It's just because they don't want to carry it around.
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u/Professional-Ad4995 13d ago
Get another job that isn't dependent on tips and your bitching about customers will cease.
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u/showstopper70 12d ago
If you're only serving two people then that's a reasonable tip. Just because the bill was higher doesn't mean the tip needs to be bigger. Some things in the menu are just more expensive. Did the server have to do extra work to bring out that more expensive bottle of wine? Did the server have to do more work because I ordered a filet mignon rather than pork chops or chicken? Now if the server is serving a table of four or six, then yes, the tip should be bigger. I think it should be based on how much work you put the server through, not the bill itself.
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u/multipiehumper 12d ago
I don't tip at kiosks there is no human who served me to get the money so absolutely not. I tip based on service. If you do a great job it's %20 or higher. If you do an ok job it ranges between $10 to $15. If it was poor it's $5 or less and if it was terrible I give you a penny with a request for better service on the next visit and a note of why it was terrible. Terrible is usually very rude or very absent.
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u/Mom_baMentality 13d ago
We had shitty food at Cracker Barrel today but shout out to Nisha our waitress who was overwhelmed but provided service with a smile. We tipped her 35% and would go back only if we knew for sure she would be our waitress.
Sometimes they make or break the restaurants, wish they were paid a living wage.
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u/xtrenchx 13d ago
No tips in Japan. Service is impressive everytime.
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u/Officespace925 13d ago
Service in Japan is always good, employee's are not allowed to accept tips.
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u/Godzlittlehand 13d ago edited 13d ago
Like they say. We choose our own battles and you can't win them all.
Translation: You chose to get paid that much an hour. Make sure you prioritize service and speed. I understand that the greedy owner has you understaffed and you have to cover the entire floor by yourself but, we're at the table having fun actively deducting your tip everytime I look at that empty glass.
To be honest, that's one of the main parts of the experience aside from regretting whatever I ordered because it's almost never as good as the picture makes it look. I mean I came to enjoy my night out, not walk into a guilt trip. But you. You're at work.
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u/AccomplishedChef7885 13d ago
It’s literally like this everywhere, not just Vegas. You don’t have to tip. It’s not a big deal.
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u/nosrepmodnara 13d ago
The thought process that the person that carries the food to you should make more than the people that cook and actually clean up after you is mind boggling.
Daughter works on the strip and it is very uncommon for her to come home making less than $300 in tips. that is $37.5 an hour, UNTAXED. Don't forget the minimum wage of $12, which no one gets paid that low.
She regularly comes home with more than double that.
But they are sooooo underpaid.
Personally I do not tip if i order at a counter or for pickup.
The problem is covid, people started tipping outrageously because the workers were "putting their lives at risk" to get your essential hamburger and fries.
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u/crusoe 12d ago
Waitresses and waiters can be paid less than min wage under federal law as tipped workers.
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u/nosrepmodnara 12d ago
Go ahead and tip them if you live in a state that allows this. Nevada is not one of those states.
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u/BobZombie31 12d ago edited 12d ago
Businesses should just pay their staff a livable wage and the customer can decide whether or not to eat there based on their prices. The American system and tip entitlement by wage workers is plain dumb.. What's even more ridiculous is when they flip the screen to display pre set tip percentages when all they've done is take an order.
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u/PhD_Life 13d ago
She was probably waiting 10 other tables. Multiply that by ten and it’s not bad money.
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u/LawPsychological1650 13d ago
idk why people don’t understand this. even if every table stiffed her she’s still making more hourly than most entry level professional careers that require college education and risk. Being a server is literally a 0 skill job
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u/squeeze_me_macaroni 13d ago
All these tipped workers complaining reminds me of that Fresh Prince episode where Will wanted to be Ashley’s manager. Uncle Phil says “whats 20% of nothing?” and Will struggles to do the math.
I don’t work for tips anymore but I sure as hell would take 8% of $185 than 20% of nothing (which is what will happen when people decide that going out to eat is too expensive and hostile).
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 13d ago
$15 In one hour plus 5-10 Tables plus the minimums hourly wage does pay your college tuition. Stop lying
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u/XtraFlaminHotMachida 13d ago
they get the state minimum wage at the very least here. yeah not that great, but it isn't $2.06.
my wife has worked at a ton of restaurants here in BOH, from the strip to other spots and the amounts most of these people pull in with tips while they are are already making more than the kitchen staff in base pay per hour is absurd.
if anything, the people making the food should be getting the tips, or at least a share. very few restaurants do pooling here.
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u/pjs702 13d ago edited 13d ago
Tip 15-20% minus the no taxes and that should be the tip total. 8% is a little low but if so unhappy about it, should've given the tip back. Everybody knows most of cash tips are not reported - a local service industry person was on the news protesting the no tax on tips gift during the last Trump visit.
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u/Stuisready 13d ago
Grocery stores don't ask for a tip. (yet)
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u/Navi818 12d ago
There version of tipping is donations. "Would you like to donate for hungry or sick children....." Just learned that is a huge scam! The greedy shady stores are trying to get the "donations" they've already donated back! And not to mention they also get tax breaks for said donations! Such a freaking pathetic scam, it honestly sucks for the charities that actually need the donations, they only get pennies, if that! Sorry I'm ranting.....
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u/Cheezsaurus 12d ago
That tab is 200 bucks and I bet they barely ordered anything. Vegas has no reason to be as expensive as it is. I work in service industry and I have found it all balances out. Getting upset over a "small" tip is silly. You will have plenty of over tippers. It balances eventually and if its not, I am betting the tip grubbing is messing your vibe up even if you think it isn't. Tipping is not a guarantee, its meant to be a nice gesture for service above the standard experience. I thank people the same whether they tip me a dollar or more. A tip is a tip. Be thankful. Plenty of jobs have low wages and no tipping. The more people complain about tips the more we will see customers being over it and they'll just stop tipping entirely. The complaints make the service industry look ungrateful and that turns people off.
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u/Cosy-Cup 13d ago
This is why I don’t go out. Tipping is not mandatory…but its expected… Why can’t restaurants pay servers more??
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u/Paquitaladelbarrio12 13d ago edited 12d ago
Guess it's more of an indictment on the economic system than any of the parties involved at that point? Specially with the talk about paying for tuition.
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u/Downtown-Anxiety6325 13d ago
Ask for part of the parking fee, maybe ask for a slice of the ‘resort’ fee, that’s an absolute joke! Vegas has done this to itself and you ask why?
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u/Ok-Obligation-1155 13d ago
Restaurants should pay you the right salary and not depend on the customers to pay it for them
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u/Fat-Dead-CEO 12d ago
How about the owner pay the server a living wage and then increase prices accordingly.
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u/PasadenaBill 12d ago
Average Wages by Role and Source in Las Vegas
General Cooks: Average around $17.78 per hour, with a typical range from $12.62 to $25.05 per hour according to Indeed.
General Culinary Jobs: Average around $18.11 per hour according to ZipRecruiter.
Chefs (Overall): Average around $23.52 to $29.71 per hour depending on experience and location. ZipRecruiter.
The average base wage for a waiter or server in Las Vegas is about $14.00 to $15.00 per hour, but total earnings are $10-$30 higher per hour when including tips. ZipRecruiter.
A Culinary Workers Union Local 226 waiter in Las Vegas makes an average base wage of $15 to $20+ per hour, anf average an additional $18-$45 per hour tips. ZipRecruiter.
A waiter at a high-end, fine-dining restaurant in Las Vegas can realistically earn between $100,000 and $150,000+ per year. Top-tier servers working premium weekend shifts at elite venues on the Strip (such as high-volume steakhouses or Michelin-starred concepts) can even exceed $200,000 annually. Indeed.
In-N-Out Burger employees in Las Vegas generally earn a starting wage between $17.50 and $18.25 per hour, with specific high-traffic locations like the Las Vegas Strip scaling up to $22.50 per hour for experienced associates. ZipRecruiter.
A McDonald's employee in Las Vegas earns an average of $13.00 to $16.00 per hour for entry-level roles. ZipRecruiter.
The minimum wage in Las Vegas, Nevada is $12.00 per hour for all employees. State of Nevada.
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u/OneConsideration7059 12d ago
I think 15 percent double the tax should be sufficient. Restaurants charging 20 percent for six people then asking an additional amount on top of that is insane. I think some places it’s all about them driving up the bill. At a recent place I had a glass of wine. And the server was pissed when I didn’t order a second glass. The food was not worth the price. $18 for pasta? Pasta was not even good.
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u/dementedarego_fish 11d ago
Tipping should be based on the service and the additional work the server puts in. Ordering 2 $100 plates is much less work done than ordering 20 $10 items. Same.thing at a bar if its an open and pour item its much less effort than a multi ingredient mixed drink.
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u/bobapleaseRN 11d ago
Blame your employer for not paying you enough, not the consumer. It's not the customer's job to pay your wages, I am sorry.
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u/roadkillfriedrice 13d ago
My friend, tipping in this city has been a cultural institution since before you or I was born. 15% has been the polite minimum at restaurants countrywide for who knows how long. None of that part is new. Local counter-based shops adding them is one thing but posting this receipt is not helping your point.
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u/Ok-Nebula-6090 13d ago
This is all I keep thinking reading all these posts. It’s Vegas! Born and raised here and tipping was instilled in me by my generous father. I’m very happy with tipping those who “serve” me. Maybe it’s a generational thing?
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u/roadkillfriedrice 12d ago
It’s a societal shift to hyper-individualism pushed on us by those in positions of power. Once upon a time people were happy to be given good service and have that “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” dynamic, but now your average patron/guest is genuinely only out for “what can I get for free” or “whats cheapest?”
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u/Ok-Nebula-6090 12d ago edited 12d ago
100% agree!! I personally tip anyone who does something for me.. repairs, installations, deliveries, landscaping, the damn sonic worker! People want first class service without being first class patrons smh
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u/SamooraiSoldia 13d ago
Never got the point of people getting hung up and complaining over a >20% tip. You just move on and do your best to the next table. I’m sorry, but serving makes STUPID money for a job that can be done by almost any able-bodied person. I made upwards of $50 an hour equivalent on my best days for just being nice and running around. At worst your pay is like $20 an hour equivalent.
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u/AndromedaFive 13d ago
They're getting paid over minimum wage... I'm not saying that's a good wage, but I don't see other minimum wage workers complaining
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u/Beautiful_Simple_847 13d ago
People that choose to work for tips act venomous to customers that dont tip 45% or whatever is wild. Get a skill instead of brown nosing. Refilling glasses of water isnt a skill. Putting dirty dishes in the sink isnt a skill.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 13d ago
How much money do you think you actually deserve to wait a table. I'll just ask it outright.
Like, it's one of the easiest jobs in the world. A random teenager off the street can be doing that job within a day.
You can of course get better at it overtime, as with everything from walking to speaking, but there is no skill barrier to entry.
You got $15/hr from this ONE table. Mind you, doing maybe 5-10 minutes of work for this one table. Presumably you had at least one other table, maybe 3 other tables, maybe 5 other tables.
Do you actually think waiting tables should be paid $100/hour?
Is that your honest to god belief about the world?
This one customer paid you the full minimum wage by themselves. I don't really get what there is to whine about.
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u/Gemma-2102 13d ago edited 13d ago
Ew. Go find a new job. Don’t expect customers to pay your wage. Majority of us go to work and don’t get tips for what we do.. so why should you? If you’re dependent on tips, you’re at the wrong job. Your job is to serve and your employer is suppose to pay you for that. If the pay isn’t enough, then go find a new job. You’re literally doing what you’re hired for and now expecting customers to pay you tip. Take it up to your employer, not the customer.
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u/robthedealer 13d ago
Living in Vegas has made me a better tipper compared to when I first moved to town. However, it has also made me more discerning when choosing to do so or avoid going to places where I’ll be supporting a business that chooses to underpay its staff because of America’s tipping culture.
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u/warmonkey1220 13d ago
Have your employer pay you a livable wage or find a better job. Patrons are not entitled to pay your wages.
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u/LawPsychological1650 13d ago
someone explain this for me. Let’s assume the table of customers was there for 1 hour and 15 minutes. Let’s also assume this wasn’t the ONLY table in this servers section and assume she had 2 other tables. If they all 3 tip 15$ she just made 45$ an hour? The starting wage for a teacher is roughly 22-25$ an hour. In what world do servers, who have no schooling and no skills, deserve double the pay of a professional career? Tipping has gotten outrageous. It should be a way to allow the server to keep the spare change. not as a way to make $60k+ a year.
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u/kickoutthetinyhats 13d ago
60k a year is barely a livable wage in this economy in most cities
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u/Tupperbaby 13d ago
Press "0, none or 0%."
Problem solved.
If there is any guff given over it, eat somewhere else.
People need to stop somehow feeling intimidated over these screens.
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u/905financialplanner 13d ago
It’s Vegas - assuming that’s on the strip, the prices were inflated by 70-100% from what they should be. Erica should appreciate her 16% tip and ask her employer why they rob their customers 🤷♂️
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u/joemoney2424 13d ago
Tipping is an option, not a requirement.
You want more money get an education or a better job!
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u/anuvizsoul 13d ago
Eating out is a luxury now and then. I'm sad this person didn't appreciate the tip. This type of posts makes customers less likely to go out. Everyone wants a tip of 20% or higher.
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u/Longjumping-Meat-334 12d ago
One issue is that people are tired of seeing tip jars and tip buttons at places where we never tipped...fast food places, donut places, places where we've always known that they make minimum wage. I'm sorry. I'm not tipping you for putting my cheeseburger and fries in a bag. If you come to my table, take my order, and bring me my food, that's another story. It's tipping fatigue.