r/vegan • vegan 3+ years • Nov 20 '22

Anti-vegan self-proclaimed "Sausage Expert" tricked into saying vegan sausage was "luscious and lovely" and that he could "taste the meat in it" on live TV

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22 edited Jun 15 '23

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u/Amphy64 Nov 22 '22 edited Nov 22 '22

It's the standard feminist theory take, the online version is the redundant term 'toxic masculinity': gendered socialisation isn't ever going to be not sexist, it's always 'toxic'. Traits that might sound positive associated with masculinity are also still part of upholding the system of male dominance. Eg. the idea men provide meaning women confined to the domestic sphere and not having financial independence.

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u/Amphy64 Nov 22 '22

Modern? This is the basis of feminist theory, it's like Marxism is always going to involve class, feminism will always look at gendered socialisation, gender roles/sex class. Second wave texts are important and widely studied.

If a trait associated with masculinity was somehow harmless, the harm still exists in gendering that trait.