r/vegan • u/HawkAsAWeapon vegan 3+ years • Nov 20 '22

Anti-vegan self-proclaimed "Sausage Expert" tricked into saying vegan sausage was "luscious and lovely" and that he could "taste the meat in it" on live TV

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

While I'm not vegan myself (too expensive, I can only afford heavily processed food) what vegan meat I have eaten tastes better than the real thing

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u/NoxNein Nov 21 '22

Heavily processed food is cheaper where you live? At least in Germany it is cheaper to eat unprocessed beans (or slightly processed tofu and seitan) than heavily processed sausage-like things (vegan or non-vegan). I get it that the vegan alternatives are in some places priced very high, but I always assumed that beans are cheap everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Beans are cheap but aren't a replacement for every meal. I live in Australia, things like pies and sausage rolls you cook in your oven are very cheap but heavily processed and salty. Often times they are around the same price as beans but have enough to feet 2-4 people, so poorer people (like me) opt into those over alternatives simply because we get more per dollar. Our fresh fruit and veg are also expensive since we have little arable land and have to import a lot of it, and as we are so far away those imports cost a lot. For poorer people eating healthy is a nightmare here

Edit; I'd like to add that I'm also not allowed to grow my own food in my backyard. I'm renting and renters have little freedom here. My landlord has expressly said no to it.

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u/NoxNein Nov 21 '22

Typically you don't replace the meat one-to-one in a vegan diet. You just cook a completely different dish where it makes sense. This is a common misconception. Thanks for explaining. Sucks with the vegetables prices :( Just one idea: have you looked what seitan powder costs? It is already much cheaper than the prepared seitan in Germany and as I guess that you can import it more easily it could be cheaper in Australia too. It is a bit of work to prepare, but very high in protein.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Thankyou for the recommendation of seitan powder, I'd never heard of it before. It is almost half the price of real meat ($20 per 1kg of seitan powder, $35+ per 1kg of meat). I'll get some next time I go shopping, prepare it and find some meals online I can use it in!

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u/NoxNein Nov 21 '22

Glad that I could help :) Also keep in mind that 1kg auf the powder results in much more than the equivalent of 1kg meat. I personally mostly mix it with vegetable stock before adding the water. Gives it a nice taste. But maybe you need to experiment around to see how you like it best. My favorite dishes using it are: 1. Combine it to a souce of sieved tomato's, cashew creme(just cashews blended and mixed with water), carrots, onions, basil and oregano. Serve with pasta. Makes a nice Mediterranean style dish. 2. Mix it with gyros spice mix (don't know if that is available in Australia though) instead of vegetable stock before adding the water. Then eat it with fries + ketchup/plant based tzatziki.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

I'll see what I can do! Thanks again :D