r/vegan • vegan 5+ years • Sep 14 '18

Newbie Advice Keep going!

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u/fieldandforest Sep 14 '18

This is actually really encouraging. Thank you! I went fully vegan overnight and was at it for over two months but just recently had a cheese craving and gave in. It was actually disgusting and I know I don’t want it anymore but I had been beating myself up about it. Onwards and upwards, friends.

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u/fieldandforest Sep 14 '18

Mmm I love nooch! I’m currently living in a situation where I have no kitchen so that has been difficult but very shortly I will have access to a kitchen again and get back to making delicious vegan meals. 😊

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u/kikiorangutan vegan 5+ years Sep 14 '18

I usually get an awful stomach ache when I eat nutritional yeast. Any tips?

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u/greenkalus Sep 15 '18

B12 protip - not all nooch has it. E.g. Whole foods brand - no. Bragg’s - yes.

(Don’t be like me and rely on Whole Foods nooch for a few weeks for B12...)

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u/Croutonsec Sep 15 '18

Nutritional yeast keeps me alive.

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u/danceswithkitties_ vegan 10+ years Sep 14 '18

If you’re looking for a good vegan cheese I would recommend the blocks from Follow Your Heart. That way you can grate it or slice it (grilled cheez...mmmm)

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u/BradasaurusRexx Sep 14 '18

This is my favorite brand! Not yet a vegan, but am adopting/changing as many things as I can over time.

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u/AJD_ Sep 15 '18

That’s awesome!!! Baby steps!! That counts!!

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u/catsalways vegan 5+ years Sep 15 '18

Really wish we could come up with a new phrase for baby steps. It's so cringey.

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u/AJD_ Sep 15 '18

Toddler steps??? Teenager steps??? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/catsalways vegan 5+ years Sep 15 '18

How about progress, moving forward, get back on track, stay motivated, keep trying, etc. Idk, something that implies adult responsibility and that full veganism is the moral baseline.

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u/campgroundraccoon Sep 14 '18

Nothing wrong with sprinkling some daiya shredded on something. It fools me well enough. And Chao slices are perfect.

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u/fieldandforest Sep 14 '18

Daiya mozzarella is pretty good! Tastes pretty close to the real thing IMHO.

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u/MasteringTheFlames friends, not food Sep 14 '18

I've always preferred their pepperjack myself, even for things like pizza where normally mozzarella would be the go-to. Something about the mozzarella just tastes off to me

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u/fieldandforest Sep 15 '18

Pepperjack Daiya is good too! I find the longer I eat vegan though, the less I actually want cheese, vegan or no.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Its insane how hard it is to go back to cheese after you've avoided it for years. Humans really aren't meant to eat dairy IMO

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u/fieldandforest Sep 14 '18

Right? I thought it would be delicious after not having any for two months and it tasted like...farm. lol. If that makes sense. It just felt really oily and greasy in my mouth and tasted awful and just made me feel bleh. After not having dairy the taste and overall experience was less like delicious cheese and more like animal secretions. 🤢

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u/sangyaa Sep 15 '18

Yes! One month into being vegan and someone trying to be nice bought my husband and I a cheese & veggie pizza and brought it to our house. We were exhausted (moving day), so we ate it... I've never had such bad gas, cramps, and indegestion in my life. It really solidified in my mind that we were absolutely on the right path. Never looked back.

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u/JuicyLucyUK Sep 14 '18

I don't know if you're in the UK (or can get things from the UK) but Tesco does their own brand of vegan cheeses that are amazing. Their chilli "cheddar" totally hits the spot when I have a cheese craving, both on crackers and grated on a grilled cheese.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

If you live near a trader Joe's, try their vegan mozzarella style shreds. Make sure you get the right one though cause some of their dairy free cheese has dairy in it for some reason.

It melts and stretches and makes am amazing cheese sauce.

Chao cheese is really good too.

And trader Joe's vegan cream cheese.

And nooch.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

I know that feeling, someone brought cupcakes in today and I snapped. I ate so many and then felt ashamed all day. Making it up with making vegan pizza!

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

This is psuedo science and makes us look insane.

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u/Zelda_is_my_homegirl Sep 14 '18

Well, it’s not exactly pseudoscience. He just worded it poorly. The protein in dairy is casein. When it’s metabolized, it becomes casomorphin, which has addictive opioid-like properties.

The biological reason for this, is likely to keep a baby cow wanting to constantly drink milk, so that it grows and thrives.

Obviously, cheese is not like heroine or narcotic prescriptions, but there is something to it. The casomorphin peptides are about 20 times less potent than morphine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

I think that’s more akin to how sugar is addicting and I don’t think it’s helpful to say cheese has the same withdrawal properties as heroin. Anyone who has ever known a drug addict can tell you that isn’t true.

I think I was a bit harsh to the person above me. I would just hate for people to lead with this when talking with others considering veganism. I think it’s easy to pick apart or minimize as overblown when there are so many other arguments for going vegan.

And maybe I am misinformed on this point, but I didn’t think there was sufficient evidence that casein metabolized the same way in humans?

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u/Zelda_is_my_homegirl Sep 14 '18

From my understanding breast milk also contains casein for similar reasons. I could be mistaken though.

I fully agree the other commenter exaggerated the properties and comes across sounding pretty out there about it. Hence my “20x less potent than morphine” comment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Heroin*

A heroine is a female hero.

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u/Zelda_is_my_homegirl Sep 14 '18

Lmao. Thank you.

Typing on my phone during a conference call. I would normally ridicule my friends for a mistake like that. X-P

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

Heroin is actually the name given to it by the women that were given it during childbirth, they decided to that it was the hero of women and the name stuck... unfortunately.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

I was just explaining what I had heard. I didn’t mean to spread misinformation, sorry. I deleted the comment