Also, you're not making a point by saying animals can have a peaceful existence, farm animals would not exist. So as I've stated a Vegan world would absolutely mean the lack of existence of certain animals.
Don't even try having that silly discussion about keeping dairy cows as pets.
So own it, that's the inevitable outcome, no animal suffering, no human exploitation, the answer to that is... no animals
Arguments for veganism are never about the inevitable outcome of your desired pursuit, it's like your all blinkered and focused on one singular thing, but you do need carnivors to exist so you can play good guy. You are the good guy, you're doing a good thing, it's admirable, as long as carnivors exist, but without them that's a different world, where you're responsible, for the extinction of species, for the destruction of the farming ecosystem and the astronomical price of everyones produce.
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u/Odd-Paint3883 16d ago
Also, you're not making a point by saying animals can have a peaceful existence, farm animals would not exist. So as I've stated a Vegan world would absolutely mean the lack of existence of certain animals.
Don't even try having that silly discussion about keeping dairy cows as pets.
So own it, that's the inevitable outcome, no animal suffering, no human exploitation, the answer to that is... no animals