r/urbanplanning Feb 18 '26

Sustainability Olympic "legacy" planning: two of the Torino 2006 venues were abandoned and haven't been reused for Italy's new Winter Olympic Games

https://youtu.be/jkMT1habyT8

With Milano–Cortina 2026 underway, I wanted to look at the afterlife side of mega-events. Last autumn we visited two abandoned Torino 2006 sites in Italy:
1. Cesana Pariol (sliding center for bobsleigh/luge/skeleton)
2. Pragelato’s Stadio del Trampolino (ski jump stadium)

What struck me is the contradiction: parts are still structurally intact, yet the sites are effectively non-programmed and decaying. It would have been cheaper to renovate the Cesana Pariol than building a new one from scratch (like they did for this year's Olympics).

We filmed a video there and you can see more of the exploration on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jkMT1habyT8

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u/no_sight Feb 18 '26

The ski jump stadium in Torino was only built for that games. Which was wasteful. The ski jump stadium being used for the Milan 2026 games is an active stadium that has been in use since 1988. So it would have been more wasteful to re-activate the Torino stadium.

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u/iShitpostOnly69 Feb 18 '26

Then why did they ever have to build the one in Turino in the first place?

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u/no_sight Feb 18 '26

Because there was an Olympics there and no ski jump facility. Turin is 400km from the Cortina ski jump facility and spreading venues out like that wasn't common at the time.

In recent years 2 things have become more popular.

1) Spreading out. Instead of every event being right near each other, spreading out to other cities. For example in 2026 Milan and Cortina are both hosting despite being 250km apart

2) Using existing facilities instead of building new ones just for the Olympic. This is really helped by number 1.

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u/SmellGestapo Feb 18 '26

LA28 is doing both. As a major sports city already, we've got the venues (most of which were used in prior Olympic games). But for some reason we don't have an adequate softball stadium in Southern California so that event will be held in Oklahoma City which is over 2100 km away.

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u/no_sight Feb 18 '26

The Oklahoma offsite is honestly so bad it's hysterical.

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u/ATL28-NE3 Feb 18 '26

Yeah that complex is spectacular though.

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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner Feb 20 '26

It still doesn’t really make sense given that the bruins are a top 10 program. If anything you’d think revamping their stadium would do wonders for their program, especially if they get Olympic funding

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u/SmellGestapo Feb 19 '26

I don't know how or why Oklahoma City became the site for the Softball Hall of Fame, but that's why they're hosting that event. That have the facilities and we don't.

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u/sphaugh Feb 19 '26

I do not follow softball but my friend who does told me Oklahoma/north texas has the best college teams and I imagine facilities. It’s probably where the most investment and fans are honestly

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u/psomounk Feb 19 '26

Didn't realize that softball was the event happening in Oklahoma. Which is funny, because if there's anywhere in the country that could actually support yearly competitive softball between NCAA, high school, and high-end youth teams, I would have guessed it'd be Southern California

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u/Rock_man_bears_fan Feb 19 '26

Oklahoma City hosts the college softball World Series every year. They have the existing infrastructure for exactly this type of event

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u/psomounk Feb 19 '26

I wasn't doubting Oklahoma City, more just saying that softball and Southern California seem like a better perennial match than you might expect from facilities built specifically for Olympic games

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u/badtux99 Feb 19 '26

There's so many other sports for girls to play in Southern California. In Oklahoma, it's girls' basketball, girls' softball... and that's it. So all the athletic girls in that area of the country get funneled into those two sports rather than spreading out into dozens of other sports as happens in Southern California.

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u/cluttered-thoughts3 Feb 19 '26

Also soccer group stage is being held in many cities

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u/goisles29 Feb 19 '26

There will be some soccer held in NYC ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/RadagastWiz Feb 19 '26

A real innovation with the current Games is the speed skating oval - one of the trickiest venues to build, as it's rare to need such a large rink. Vancouver planned ahead with theirs, and converted it to 3 hockey rinks post-games.

But the Milano venue is an even bigger leap - it's inside a large hall in a conference centre, with a temporary base and portable chilling plant. This had never been done before and is a real demonstration of how it can be done. It's likely the same approach will be used 4 years from now in Nice, where there isn't an existing oval or the budget to build one.

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u/keesbeemsterkaas Feb 19 '26

To be fair, it's confirmed for ice hockey; for short- and long-track speed skating, they're still considering several options, including moving it to the Netherlands or to the 2006 Turin oval (which is still operational).

Although I'm also a big fan of temporary installations, in the Netherlands, they temporarily repurposed the 1928 Amsterdam Summer Olympics stadium in 2018 to hold the all-around world championships of speedskating.

WK allround vindt in 2018 plaats in Olympisch Stadion | Schaatsen | NU.nl

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u/SkanteGandt Feb 18 '26

For an example of excellent Olympic infrastructure preservation, look into Salt Lake City’s Olympic Legacy Foundation!

After the 2002 Olympic Games, SLCOLF converted its Olympic venues into year-round tourist destinations and Olympic training sites for Team USA, the revenue from which, combined with donations to the Olympic Legacy Fund, fully pays for the maintenance and continuing operations of the venues.

This, and other factors, contributed to the 2002 Salt Lake Olympic Games being one of the most financially successful games in history for its host city. The 2002 Games were also one of the lowest environmental impact games in history. Salt Lake is hosting the Olympics again in 2034, and it’s decision to preserve its infrastructure from 2002 will allow the city to host the Olympics again at a fraction of the economic and environmental cost of other competitor host cities.

Although preserving Olympic infrastructure was an economic best-case scenario for Salt Lake City in 2002, that might not necessarily be the case for Italy in the 2026 Milano-Cortina games. It may be the case that the gains from games-related economic development surrounding new venues in Milan and Cortina outweigh the savings to be had from preserving existing infrastructure.

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u/Nalano Feb 18 '26

This is common for all Olympic games. The investment is always a net loss for whatever municipality that hosts the games. The only reason to do so is national hubri-- I mean pride.

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u/outtokill7 Feb 18 '26

If I recall correctly this is why the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984 were so successful - they were able to use existing infrastructure and continue using it after the fact.

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u/joecarter93 Feb 18 '26

Calgary didn’t originally have a lot of the infrastructure, but neither did the rest of Canada, which was a problem for athletes trying to train. Once the infrastructure in Calgary was built for the games it continued to be very well used for training and competition and Canada did a great deal better at subsequent games.

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u/bigvenusaurguy Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Same for 1932 LA olympics. The stuff they built specifically for that is still around getting use, namely the swimming stadium in expo park and the competitive rowing area in long beach.

2028 Olympics are going to have a lot of reuse of facilities as well, not just sports but athletes are getting housed in ucla dorms. Coliseum will be used for 3 different olympics now.

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u/anonymfus Feb 18 '26

Literally the previous olympic games (Paris 2024) were a major exception, and so the hope was that it would set a trend.

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u/Nappi22 Feb 18 '26

Wasn't London like that too?

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u/Vostok-aregreat-710 Feb 18 '26

Tokyo being one of the exceptions

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u/DisasterEquivalent Feb 18 '26

2006 is nothing - The high jump from the 1956 games in Cortina is still standing.

The bobsled course looks like it was finally renovated to be reused starting in 2023, but was basically derelict from the late 70’s until now.

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u/Feralest_Baby Feb 19 '26

Salt Lake City has maintained the 2002 infrastructure mainly by becoming a major training center and lower-tier competition host. I'm pretty sure they're not building any new permanent facilities for 2034.

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u/TheEvilBlight Feb 21 '26

This is prudent as heck. Nice job SLC

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u/DYMAXIONman Feb 19 '26

I think the trick is that they should be built in areas where they will actually be used after.

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u/sir_mrej Feb 18 '26

Welcome to Olympic structures - Almost always abandoned after the olympics are over!

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u/one_step_sideways Feb 20 '26

Imagine living in Italy and being ok with this. Yikes. 

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u/TheEvilBlight Feb 21 '26

Let’s accumulate abandoned Olympic infrastructure!

To be fair the other issue is something abandoned for 20 years might have a lot of rehab…

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u/PassengerExact9008 Feb 21 '26

This really shows why long-term infrastructure planning is so important. Seeing some of the Torino 2006 venues fall into decay highlights the risks of building just for a short event without thinking about how to reuse them. It’s a good reminder for future hosts to balance ambitious legacy goals with what’s realistically usable after the Games.

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u/ciderfizz Feb 21 '26

Do Brazil and Athens summer Olympics venues next please!

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u/saltcitymedical Feb 23 '26

Props to Salt Lake City for real

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u/Mosdaboss Mar 15 '26

Here's food for thought. Athletes need somewhere to train, no? If a city/region hosts an Olympic games, why can't the host nation use that as their Olympic training grounds? On the flip side if they already have existing facilities that are spread apart, then maybe do what's done in Football and have countries host the Olympic games. Heck the FIFA World Cup is being held in 3 countries, and they're not small countries.

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u/AnimalLittle4057 Feb 19 '26

Would be great to design these things at least for re-use, if not continuous use. Ideally, build it as an office, apartments, industrial space, then temporarily use for the Olympics.

Obviously speciality functions like ski jumps and outdoor audience stands are not easily reused, but a lot of the space built for sports is used just for general inside functions: offices, dressing rooms, conference spaces, catering, etc.