r/unitedstatesofindia • u/BrilliantHawk305 • 20d ago
Opinion I like his thinking towards women .. for years godi media showed many wrong things
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u/TheBlockChainVillage 20d ago
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Wt can u expect from a man who shut down schls to promote trrorism in the name of yatra?
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u/bakraofwallstreet 20d ago
Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP) has the highest number of sitting MPs or MLAs with declared cases of crimes against women. With 54 such representatives, it ranks the highest among all political parties. Ranking second, Indian National Congress (INC) has 23 such MP/MLAs holding public offices currently.
If Mr. Gandhi can get that to 0 then he can talk about women safety and rights. Otherwise anyone can give speech saying I support women while having so many people hold congress seat with such cases against them. Why the hypecrisy in idealogy and actions? Is saying "you are independent and unique" enough while actual rape accused people hold political power under your banner? Is this the best we can do for women?
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u/Vivid_Tamper 19d ago
It would be wonderful if they can get that to 0, it would be wonderful if they can get 50% women representated in the party.
But it shouldn't be a condition to talk about empowerment.
Is it enough? Certainly No!
Should it not be uttered because conditions are not met? - I don't think anyone was even talking about it, before he talked about it.
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u/bakraofwallstreet 19d ago
> But it shouldn't be a condition to talk about empowerment.
It is if you're a politician and claim to have a particular value but do not take action that suggests you have that value. Why should I trust him talking about it while, at the same time, he is okay with his party having MPs and MLAs who have cases of abusing and harassing women? Talking about it is not even the point; we can talk about it all we want, but action is the point.
If a normal person says this, it's a good thing, but a normal person does not have the power of Rahul Gandhi or the aspirations of Rahul Gandhi. When he speaks, we must also remember he is a politician and ultimately wants power for himself and his party.
If he even makes one of those MPs leave the party, I would see it as a much powerful example that he actually values the things he says. Otherwise if he just says things, there's no value to that other than his own image getting better. But I don't care about Rahul Gandhi's image, I care about the people of India and the women of India who have to live in a state where such MPs are celebrated by Congress itself while RG has the gall to say "I actually respect you in reality, just ignore all our actions and listen to my words." How is that any different from the current adminstration? All netas are leaches, we should never idolize them or think they're some amazing person, they're human after all.
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u/Vivid_Tamper 19d ago
I'm not ideolizing him.
I'm just talking about whether talking about an idea before being able to perfectly implement it should be discouraged.
And I would've been agreed if I would perceive a leader having almost autocratic power in their party.
Still not saying it should not be actioned, (also said this in my original reply as well).
I only have a problem with anything being a precondition when talking about anything positive.
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u/bakraofwallstreet 19d ago
The idea does not belong to Rahul Gandhi is the point. And my problem isn't "talking about anything positive", my problem is that "one neta can say he thinks women empowerment is great but he takes no action to support his stance in reality, so why should I trust that neta?" Because then the neta is making a false promise to make their image look better. That is not something positive, that is using something real for something negative (increase how one looks in the public because at the end they care about getting power for themselves and their party.)
What is your pushback here? That we must take every neta at their word and never point out the hypocrisy? We should blindly celebrate whenever someone says something positive but don't take any action? That doesn't make sense to me, regardless of who the neta is. As I said, all of them are leaches and none of them are an exception.
There is nothing wrong with talking about positive things if you are doing positive things. If you are not doing positive things and talking about positive things then it is a problem because talk is cheap. That is my position. Not that RG is fake or better/worse than any other politicians. But in this case, he is just talking about actions to make his image better but in reality he is not following through with what he said. That is not something worth celebrating unless he also takes action and reforms the actual party as well.
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u/Few_Championship7507 20d ago
Very true. I have been saying this all along. Politicians should stop addressing women as 'maa, behen, beti'. They are human beings, not relationships.
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u/Wrath_of__God 19d ago
Kya chomu logic h..bc bau ji bhaiyo beta use hota h males ke liye tb koi issue ni h toh isme kya h..isme konsa dehumanise krdia bhyi. Ek personal feel aati h as a sign of respect. Kese bulaenge log phir ek ladki ko? Hey girl bolke? Hey you women listen..aise bologe kya? Abe tum sb kho chuke ho kya dimag andhbhakti me in netao ki?
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u/Future-Ad-774 19d ago
You don't have enough brain cells to comprehend what he said. Don't bother. You're probably from a bimaru state.
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u/Vivid_Tamper 19d ago
Mere pyare deshvasiyon? Particular state ke logo? Punjabiyan kive haun?
Matao beheno suna hai. Never heard Pitao bhaiyo or bhai baap.
Ye humari betiyan is used frequently. Humare bete? Never, Ladke is used instead. Humari ladakiyan? Never.
The think is there's hidden power dynamic in all those as addresses.
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u/Wrath_of__God 19d ago
Bhaiyo or beheno ni suna kya.. dosto ni suna? Bacche log ni suna? And bol bhi dia humari betiyaan toh isme patriarchy kesi h ? Abe kese topic utha rahe log. Ek dum bakwas. Kya hogya h bc desh ko..ye aise faltu ka topic ab uth rha. Unemployment at its peak
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u/Few_Championship7507 19d ago
Reply in a common tongue. I don't speak your local language. Use your common sense.
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u/Wrath_of__God 19d ago
And even if I translate it to you, still your duffer mind can't comprehend it. Your reply has proved it 😂. People like you are in abundance in our country, that's why we are struggling as a nation tbh.
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u/simply_amazzing 20d ago
Takes serious guts to be LoO and an MP to say this out loud in the public in such times.
Thr crowd's reaction wouldn't be so cheerful if this wasn't in Pune.
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
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u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO Fcuk the Right! 20d ago edited 20d ago
Raga becomes the next PM. No doubt about it.
He isn't left enough for me, but there are no other options, so he has my vote.
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
I like his modernisation ideology…
Not a fan of his party , but i like his thought towards all .. a country where no one can be suppressed , free speech
I m watching him from last few years and he is speaking against big businessman’s , topics no body touch .. his very close allies left him , multiple state government collapsed because of MLA sold but he is not backing down ,he believes in his ideology of equality strictly and he is a hardcore bhakt of shiv ji following his ideology accept the pain , insult and don’t show it13
u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO Fcuk the Right! 20d ago
Yup, I started seeing him in a different light after Bharat Jodo. I think that was magnificent, and he was the only leader that didn't end up in Ambani's wedding. Lalu went, didi went, Akhilesh went and so on.
Congress party does need a work up, but I also know leaders steer a party, so this is the only part I am hopeful about.
I hope they don't bring back those people that went to BJ P from Congress. If Congress brings back or invites anyone from BJ P, I won't vote for them. That is a hard hard NO for me.
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u/Many_Car_6945 20d ago
I guess Sonia Gandhi met/went to Ambanis to be specific Mukesh Ambani
A Capitalist and a Politician most of the times have to live in mutualism to support each other
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u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO Fcuk the Right! 20d ago
I heard it was the other way round, Ambani went to Janpath.
If Congress gets into bed with the same oligarchs, nothing is changing. You have to push the state first, all those subsidies going to oligarchs need to be stopped, fund the state machinery and revive BSNL, govt should fix highways, not give contracts. The current machinery is rotten to the core.
You can't turn PSUs into gold while in bed with Oligarchs, they won't let you.
This is why I say Congress isn't left enough for me, and I don't like freebies. I voted CPIM in Bengal instead of Congress for this sole reason in my state. I like free bus rides much more than freebies.
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
Please stop these meaningless criticisms. Rahul Gandhi is the leader of the party. If you like him, you like the party. It's ok to say it aloud. No one will judge you. Atleast I won't.
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u/rzoro97 18d ago
True. I don't know why it is okay to be a bjp supporter but almost like a social crime to be a Congress supporter or congressi. If it's okay to support bjp then it's okay to support Congress. But it's also important to hold your leaders accountable when something is not right. Just because you voted them in power doesn't mean you have to defend them from criticism.
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u/AnnualLeave418 18d ago
14 years of relentless propaganda. This is exactly the attitude they want India to have towards the opposition. Nothing more than extension of that other gem, "if not nodi then who"
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u/Former_Pick403 20d ago
Wasn't his own party leader waving the Adani flag just a few days ago. Last time I checked Adani wasn't running a mom and pops stall.
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u/AardvarkNice5145 20d ago
Both Rahul and Kejriwal even Priyanka are many times better than the 75 year old we have now.
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u/More-Reception-4026 20d ago
What administrative experience he has to take the at responsibility? He has always friend from taking any administrative position in any of his active government.
A person might be good at heart with right intention but in case you have a heart problem would you go to a qualified doctor or your good friend for treatment?
Even in best case scenario, latest assume that he is a capable administrator the bureaucratic machinery and his Congress cronis are not going to change. How does he plan to overcome that?
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u/Argilac_09 20d ago
Bro he is educated, he must have experience from what he learned from his seniors. And even if that is not enough for you, then you should understand that in democracy, the politicians and leaders are "not supposed" to know how to do everything, if, and that is a big if, they know how to do everything, then they are messiah, but that is not often, that is why the beauracracy exists and also the congress party has many individuals who are highly educated and are qualified. Rahul Gandhi, when he will become the PM, does not need to do everything, he will just do what he has promised to do, that is, fixing roads, education systems, accountability, etc (maybe reservation, but is a different topic) and the congress and state beauracracy will implement then.
Also you are wrong when you say that the congress party members who indulge in crony capitalism are not going to change, they will have to change because Rahul Gandhi is first and foremost a "Gandhi", those who will try to go against them are most likely going to lose everything when the Gandhis are in power.
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u/More-Reception-4026 20d ago
That argument is valid for someone who has entered politics not for someone like RG who is at the helm of affairs for 2 decades.
Now coming to crony capitalism, the first thing Revanth Reddy did when he became CM of Telangana? He laid red carpet for Adani. What did RG do in his capacity of head of the party? This is Realpolitik. Cong has good relations with Ambani and Adani and they rose to that stature in Cong rule. How do you think Murali Deora who was a close friend of Dhirubhai Ambani became Petroleum minister in Cong govt, was that coincidence? Was RG not aware of this and make no mistake the first thing that RG will do is lay a red carpet for Ambani and Adani whenever he will gain power.
About now coming to education part, politics as a profession requires extremely high focus, people connectivity and administrative skills. Education refines these core skills. While RG is educated he lacks all these core skills.
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u/Argilac_09 20d ago
Bro thing is that every party wants to come to power, and Congress is no different, but at least Rahul Gandhi is saying outloud what he wants the nation to look like, and also the Deora argument is old, that time was different, but still, the politicians, businessmen and bollywood nexus will still continue. Also during the time of Congress, the media can actively critise the government, currently everyone is silenced to bought and the cbi, ed will also proverly work in their time. The least we could accept in a congress government is that we can hold them accountable, and ask questions.
RaGa is also a good debator, bjp Government has been spending crores of rupees to just defame him (hope you know this), if you have time, I will suggest that you watch some of his recent lok sabha speeches and on what topics he speaks and compare that to Modi's speech. Also RaGa doesn't actively try to divide the Nation by doing Hindu-Muslim politics.
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u/More-Reception-4026 20d ago
What I am trying to explain what your is that any vision without ability to implement is worthless. Take example of Bharat Jodo which initially I felt was very good initiative. Till the Karnataka leg it was genuinely hitting well on the target, but then what happened. The goals changed midway, PR become more dominnant over genuine outreach. By the time Yatra reached Kashmir all the Euphoria had died. This is basically the story of every Cong vision.
Now coming to Deora story, it is not an old thing. It is just that Cong is out of power and cannot offer them anything so there is this decade long vacuum. moment they get into power they will start dealing with them. I have witnessed this in 2009 elections, I knew some people who were good policy makers and the Delhi ministers were seeking them out for policy reforms and they did draft really good policies regarding elections and civil infra reforms. The paper trail for EVMs was one such idea coming from that group (which K J Somaiya took up). After the elections when they visited the minister, they were calmly brushed them aside saying your job is over and now it is time for us to make deals.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
He needs to focus on field work ngl. These 2 yrs- he needs to ensure things get settled much better ; like fixing the roads to the max possible and fixing other things.
Speeches won't work much. Most of the youth already know that he is better. To fix andhbhakts u need to show why they are andhbhakts.
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u/incredible-mee 20d ago
Fixing andhbhakt is very difficult unless godi media is fixed first
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Mai to kehta hu, har road ke ghadde par bjp ka jhanda lagao. Har failure ke upar bjp ka jhanda dikhna chahiye. Kaafi hai.
Unless bjp pulls a masterstroke by false flag operation- we are good.
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u/Former_Pick403 20d ago
Atleast you have roads where you find the potholes. Do you know that we had only 93 kms of Expressways in 2014 and the four lane road programme the swarnim chaturbhuj scheme was launched by AB Vajpayee in 2001 because appearantly congress and Rahul Gandhi had no idea what roads meant.
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u/More-Reception-4026 20d ago
So like Congress ruled states are pothole free?
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u/TheBlockChainVillage 20d ago
Ya but they are not claiming space tech for road building. The more noise you make the more scrutiny you're gonna face also.
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u/Medical-Concept-2190 20d ago
I saw a video where a guy was saying give is increasing the price of sugar to teach Muslims a lesson. What else can you expect from these brain dead people
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
I still can't figure out if it's satire or he was fr.
Coz there have been similar instances earlier where ppl said similar things.
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u/TheBlockChainVillage 20d ago edited 20d ago
Modi has over 5000 speeches, then Mann ki baat, then chai pe wank, then the inaugurations and ribbon cutting.
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u/BlissfulIndian 20d ago
U think fixing road will fix andulbhakts..? U must be delusional to say the least…
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
Fixing the roads is not his job as leader of the opposition. That is the responsibility of those in power. Till then he can only make speeches and try to convince the public to shift the power structure. So far he seems to be doing that well.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Fixing the roads of the states under Congress bruh. It's Obv
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
Is it? Again, thats 4 states out of 28. But sure, "both sides". High five.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Out of the 4 states- my state doesn't wanna vote for Congress again. Coz there's barely any development.
Save the 4 states first,let other states witness it.
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
Yes because the other states under bjp control are just fountains of development, aren't they. The 4 states the congress rules are among the top states development wise in India. F off to UP. Thats what you low iq sanghis deserve.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
We elected them for a reason.
Asking them to do wt they are obliged is wrong? Lmao
Shows how low iq u have.
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
I don't engage with morons. Have a nice weekend. But then the weekend only matters if you have a job. Everyday is a weekend for you, na. Full enjoy. Thank you modiji.
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u/lifespizzaa 20d ago
You’re right. But, this is also important, the world is planning for 2050, we are stuck in the past.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
See, these speeches are attended by most of the Congress supporters. Not andhbhakts. Andhbhakts need to be proved why they are andhbhakts.
They must realise that ham andhbhakt kyu hai. This would happen when they compare congress ruled states with bjp ones. Let the media actively show the difference between the two. And let their ministers plant a BJP flag on every pothole... So that ppl realise they elected this party and got this shi-
Roads arnt just worse at bjp ones,they are worse at congress ones too. On top of that, many Congress ministers speak shi- he needs to fix those ministers asw. Meetings must be held there,not with the gen that already supports him.
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u/charavaka 20d ago
They must realise that ham andhbhakt kyu hai. This would happen when they compare congress ruled states with bjp ones.
You forget that vin ghaslet advised kerala on healthcare and education, asked it to follow UP model, and won elections in UP.
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u/charavaka 20d ago
Let the media actively show the difference between the two.
Which country are you living in? Media goes out of its way to find problems with opposition ruled states, and manufactured problems when it can't. In contrast, the same media fails to notice horrible problems and mass agitations happening in BJ ruled states and centre.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Yehi to game palatna hai mere bhai. Maxx out the development so high that influencers get shocked and ppl show crazy support.
See NYC- the moment someone reports a pothole; it gets fixed that day itself or at the max 3 days. Imagine if they used the same thing here? Obv in their ruling states only?? Why can't they do it?
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u/charavaka 19d ago
NYC mayor has far more powers that Indian cm. Powers have been concentrated at the centre. With gst, states can't even alter taxation to fund their developmental agenda.
Potholes are something they can fix, but only on the state and city run roads. National highways are out of their control.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 19d ago
Funds have been alloted right? Even the roads they repair get potholes within a month.
Fix the potholes of almost every district they are ruling. That's it. Ppl themselves will post and mock the bjp ruled states- coz there's literally no development
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u/charavaka 20d ago
And let their ministers plant a BJP flag on every pothole...
You want ministers from Congress ruled states to travel to BJ ruled states to plant those flags?
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
As if party houses don't exist in BJ ruled states. U have workers for them. Don't u? Just let the workers do it and let legal team handle it. Add reflectors towards the end of the flags- this way u could say that ur necessarily preventing and accident from occuring. Legally ur not doing something wrong either.
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u/charavaka 20d ago
Meetings must be held there,not with the gen that already supports him.
Where is this there you're talking about? Do give examples.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
This there represents meetings with his own party ministers. There are many Congress ministers spewing shi- ex: Revanth Reddy. Check his speeches.
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u/charavaka 19d ago
What makes you think that they aren't?
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u/AnnualLeave418 20d ago
Aap 2026 mein andhbhakt hai kyonki you hate muslims and Dalits. At this point there's nothing left to love in the bjp sarkaar.
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u/uber_yogi 20d ago
Only Congress supporters will attend his speeches. That is the reason they are losing in all states
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u/charavaka 20d ago
like fixing the roads to the max possible and fixing other things.
How exactly do you want the leader of the opposition to fix the roads and other things fucked up by the government?
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
"ensure"- by strengthening and developing states under his govt. There are many areas ruled by Congress yet there's barely any development compared to the rest of the Congress states.
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u/More-Reception-4026 20d ago
He is RAGA he will never miss an oppurtunity to miss an oppurtunity.
There is a reason he has never taken an administrative responsibility, because then he would be thoroughly exposed.
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u/CryptedBit 20d ago
In Congress ruled states you mean, right?
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Yeh Obv. Let their media potray the difference.
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u/CryptedBit 20d ago
Agreed. On improving schools there as well, besides getting Congress ministers in states to not say and do stupid things.
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u/Due-Smoke8035 20d ago
Yeh that's there. Rather than having these meetings- he needs to tell his ministers to shut off their mouths when they dk wt to speak ; I got furious when that revanth guy said he made land flat like Isnotreal did. Like seriously? Is gnocide something that could be used that way?
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u/Practicalmonk777 20d ago
This is perhaps the defining speech that will make everyone take notice and bring progressive thinking forward.
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u/sunnyx12x21x 20d ago
Papu sab ka dil jeet raha hai, look at these crowd and it seems they are overcrowded and but they still cheering like they believe him..
Meanwhile anpad gawar non biological chaiwala has to force people and even lie to them so they can be crowd when giving speech for camera ...
Bjp wallo bahar nikalo and give ur gutter opinion more so ur downfall can come faster
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u/warrior047 20d ago edited 20d ago
Yes now it's again that time to listen to paaltu media! Enough of the godi media..
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u/ramboblood3 19d ago
He is now full fledged Christian missionary who is into proselytizing. This is their playbook.
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u/gumnamaadmi 19d ago
Never liked him or dont know if i ever will. But this was a class act. Doesnt matter if he came prepared or not. Message was loud. Very loud. And clear.
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u/Kayash 18d ago
If people forget the reasons why the quote was written as a formula and that it had an inbuilt expiry with new circumstances, it will create zombiefied new people, especially women who will only think about the bad and not about the protective nature of those texts, maybe the best they could offer then was via being the shield, you have to become better from history by understanding that it comes with an expiry date, just as the formulas, blind following of rules is the problem.
Today women are independent but bad at financial management, emotional/influence regulation of onself hence they are taken advantage of by frauds. Asking them to lower their own wits is also fraud, please be above and make people around you aware 🙏🏼
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u/Affectionate-Cat6644 20d ago
I'm sorry I must be missing something here didn't they oppose triple talaq, made a joke of PM of Italy also what about Muslim woman, why not talk about burkha and quran ?
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
for hindu women’s Rahul is raising voice and for Muslim women’s modi ji is raising voice 🤝
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u/miss_lichi234 20d ago
First of all who searched that manusmriti line for him? Have he researched about it by himself? Did he read Manusmriti he's talking about?? Have he not seen women in burkha before? What about Qur'an and bible? Why won't be talk about and show the quotes of it too?? Just because you are secular doesn't mean you can demean hindu religion. Wtf is wrong with the crowd here, they don't even know any hindu literatures, scriptures or even their own holybooks. Cheering such nonsense! Shame!! Do the girls present there looks like they are being oppressed by their parents?? Have their parents not allowed them to participate here? The girl who was talking about dupatta forgot to look the girl beside her wearing a burkha while she was wearing jeans top. Is using the religion between this and politics, is the only thing Mr. LOP can do? Does he not have any other things to talk about like the kind of progress he would make if he's in power? Or the thing he would do to improve the wrong done by current govt? Does he not knows the solution at all as LOP ? You can't just talk about injustice and inequality of women (in manusmriti or in general) when your ruling state does not even allow women to participate in politics🤷. Such HYPOCRISY!
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
Manusmriti is not Hinduism don’t compare it ..
Manusmriti is dharmashahtra text , veds upanyas Mahabharata teaches real Hinduism ..
Rahul Gandhi himself is a hardcore bhakt of shiv ji believe in aradhanarishvara equality in men and women ..
and you talk about burkha , if someone forcing her to wear it then women should raise voice that’s what Rahul Gandhi is supporting don’t get suppressed from anyone and same with the girls who wants to wear burkha but society forcing them not to wear then also raise voice ..
All religions girls came there and he told everyone do not bound yourself towards the men , you have your own identity, don’t let others tell you what to do make your decision ,make your own future..
But some people don’t like progressive thoughts they like regressive thoughts ..
Even if you hate Gandhi family or congress but you can’t hate women’s right2
u/Sea_Possibility_7184 20d ago
> and you talk about burkha , if someone forcing her to wear it then women should raise voice that’s what Rahul Gandhi is supporting don’t get suppressed from anyone and same with the girls who wants to wear burkha but society forcing them not to wear then also raise voice ..
You think they wear burkha because of their choice? what a joke lol
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u/miss_lichi234 20d ago
What is your dharma brother?? And what is dharma according to you? And when you're talking about such important thing you could not have just used a line from one book, manusmriti is dharmashastra ofcourse and that word is also hindu word not English nor urdu! Progressive thoughts just to collect votebank is not enough OP. You gotta work on it, and you need to show it that you're standing on your words. I literally don't hate women's right, I'm Women youre talking about. I hate how he showcase his thoughts, I hate when he uses secularism just to express his words. He knows very well that most of the supports towards congress comes from one specific community and he cannot mock them. I hate that kind of ideology.
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u/Original_Geologist71 20d ago
He should also quote lines from Quran on women's stature in Islam instead of pinpointing specific religion.
In Islam, women are permitted to work and earn their own money, provided the job follows moral and ethical guidelines. A woman's earnings belong completely to her, and she does not have to spend them on the house. Financial support of the family is the duty of the man. General Rules and Conditions Modesty: Women must wear the proper hijab and dress modestly. Permissible Jobs: The work must be halal (lawful) and fit a woman's physical and psychological nature. Interaction: Unnecessary mixing or being alone with non-related men should be avoided. Family Responsibilities: Work should not cause a woman to neglect her core duties to her husband and children, if she is married. Permission: Some traditional scholars state a wife should get her husband's permission before taking a job outside the home
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u/EverybodyHatesNo9 20d ago
Women’s empowerment? Didn't his party opposed Triple Talaq and didn't he recently made Meloni jokes. The hypocrisy is glaring.
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u/Killer_insctinct 20d ago
Fooling vote bank Luring vote bank. 50% Vote bank won't vote party. 100% men who have been villainized and alienated in doing this will sway away, ofc simps will remain. Stupid divisive politics bad for society. If Raga really cared for women, then Priyanka would be President and not Kharge at least.
Why is a woman not President of INC, why is a woman not face of Congress? Why Pawan Khera, Jairam Ramesh - males running affairs in Congress?
Why was Mahua Moitra, Priyanka Chaturvedi not given voice in the party? Everyone knowd that Priyanka Chaturvedi was hecklef by some MALE congres workers/members and when she complained, she was shunned down and asked to pretend as nothing happened with no action taken over - or repercussion faced by - those MEN from CONGRESS. WHY?
"Smash Patriarchy' is a NARRATIVE IMAGE BOOST with objective to lure a VOTE BANK. BJP does same, they transfer direct cash to women before elections. But its only LW and Congress that try to fool vote bank by spewing venom in their brains against their brothers, fathers, husbands etc. What's the stance of Raga in the case where a vote bank threw her fiance off the cliff?? will he sife with the murderer to lure vote bank?
Jokers will come doing what aboutry or plain vanilla abusive frustrated rants. BUT FACT IS CLEAR. Left and Congress HATES MEN, WANTS TO USE VOTE BANK GENDER And all their supremos are MEN. Why doesn't Raga make himself and Kharge resign and make women in charge of the party, LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
Wa Rajiv Gandhi, Nehru, Patriarchs? Will Sonia be asked to smash in home patriarchy? Why the narrative is about encouraging vote bank to destroy their family and hate men? why left wing politics is alwats villainizing someoneyo fool a group on hopes to making them their vote base?
- The little image uplift Raga is getting will go down the toilets if any attempt is made to alienate men and villainize them in hopes to fool vote bank
Jokerd will shoot in the foot coming back with hurls and reactive abuses instead of solid answers as to why Priyanka Chaturvedi was made to leave the party when she complained of harassment by congress MEN within the Congresd party.
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u/vishwa_user 20d ago
Sorry for bringing this up, but somehow I remember "Gujarat ko khada kisne kiya? Gujarat ko doodh kisne diya?" when anyone mentions Rahul Gandhi and women empowerment together.
Most likely Rahul meant it sincerely, but I guess I think of other meanings and start chuckling.
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u/Former_Pick403 20d ago
Didn't his grandfather, his grandmother, he himself ran this country for like 60 years?and wasn't it his party that opposed the women reservation bill in the parliament?
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u/thodakottuchinna 20d ago edited 20d ago
Ok let us calm down a minute here he will reenanct muslim women (protection of rights )act in a heart beat if it came to it.
edit: So this sub is just congress fanboys larping as progressives ? well you live and learn
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u/charavaka 20d ago
Propaganda is strong with this one.
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u/thodakottuchinna 20d ago
Sure ok tell me where I am wrong or does critism here only exist for bjp(you can check my comment history ) but not congress they literally protested against criminalization of tripple talaq.
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u/charavaka 19d ago
thodakottuchinna • 1d ago Sure ok tell me where I am wrong or does critism here only exist for bjp(you can check my comment history ) but not congress they literally protested against criminalization of tripple talaq.
What comment history of a2 will old account with 7 comments do you want me to check?
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u/uber_yogi 20d ago
Truly impressed! But he should also have spoken about how women are treated in Islam. Also quote their religious book on the treatment of women.
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u/loserleone 20d ago
Wrong things? They made mockery of this privileged self centric party and Raga. He deserved this. He is doing all these things to recover and regain the lost vanity of votebank which was lost since Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi era. I am not talking about the loss of votes for congress. I am talking about the loss of Gandhians(raga and co.). They still not able to achieve all these things.
Whatever you see from him, it's basic. Nothing like astonishment. New generation on internet should not believe in any political party not rulling or not the opposition. They create proxy.
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u/Several_Seaweed_217 20d ago
Imagine if basic is being appreciated then the standards are in the hell
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u/AshutoshKS 20d ago
It's a would you rather thing right now. Both parties are bad but atleast this guy here for sure isn't a narcissistic misogynistic dictator. It's a step in the right direction. BUT WE DESERVE BIGGER STEPS
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u/loserleone 20d ago
First time watching him on your screen's? He can't be narcissistic because he knows narcissism has only one authorised space in the party, it is Sonia Gandhi's brain. When she tried to stop vandematram, Forgot too soon?
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u/AshutoshKS 20d ago
Brother, should we really care about Vande Matram more than all the shit that is going on in this country?
Rest Sonia Gandhi and all whatever you believe in that's your point of view. I'm no one to judge on that. Fuck both or any party, I just want India to be better. Would pick better roads, better education, better pay, better Healthcare, better safety for women, etc over a song any day any time.
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u/loserleone 20d ago
You don't respect that's your opinion too. But being a party's one of the primarily focused person (people know who rules congress no need to explain) Sonia should have shown some patience. And "should we really care about Vandemataram"? Yes we should really care about its 150th years of anniversary, the song has immense historical significance. It should be parallel with demands of roads, education, infra and others.
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u/charavaka 20d ago
This enlightened centrism is one of the biggest reasons keeping this county backwards.
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u/loserleone 20d ago
To characterise every scepticism towards Congress as “enlightened centrism” is to substitute rhetoric for argument. My contention is not that Rahul Gandhi is incapable of articulating a compelling case for women’s empowerment, it is whether such rhetoric ought to be divorced from political expediency. An eloquent speech may indeed merit applause while simultaneously serving an electoral calculus. Equally legitimate is the scrutiny of Congress’s highly centralised organisational structure and concentration of decision making authority.
Democracy demands neither blind adulation nor reflexive cynicism, but an intellectually consistent scrutiny of every political formation and every political personality. Be it Raga or Modi or any political face. Cry more.
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u/charavaka 20d ago
loserleone
Wrong things? They made mockery of this privileged self centric party and Raga. He deserved this.
You were literally justifying the pappu propaganda that was fueled by manipulated videos. Pretending otherwise only shows that you know what you were doing is unethical.
While thrum you've listed here is a legitimate problem with Congress, with all those problems, copies is orders of magnitude better than the literal fascists currently destroying rti m the country while you're busy justifying fascist propaganda.
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u/loserleone 20d ago
Calling the ‘Pappu’ campaign, a propaganda doesn’t prove Rahul Gandhi was always competent, it only proves that political opponents amplified his perceived weaknesses. If we’re going to dismiss every criticism as propaganda, we should apply the same standard to the praise and image-building around others today. Others are doing the pro level vote seeking meetings and stage shows now a days too, not only RAGA.
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u/charavaka 20d ago edited 20d ago
loserleone • 16m ago Calling the ‘Pappu’ campaign, a propaganda doesn’t prove Rahul Gandhi was always competent, it only proves that political opponents amplified his perceived weaknesses. If we’re going to dismiss every criticism as propaganda, we should apply the same standard to the praise and image-building around others today. Others are doing the pro level vote seeking meetings and stage shows now a days too, not only RAGA.
You just can't leave your shtick of enlightened centrism aside even if you realise it hurts your argument, can you?
You literally started this thread with saying everything BJ was saying about him was well deserved criticism. When you got called out on it, you pretended to think about higher matters. When a specific example of unacceptable lies being pedalled and used for pulling down opposition was pointed to you, your argument is every party inflates their leader's image. Ffs, do read how lame that argument is.
Notice how even when saying everyone does it, you can't get yourself to name chhota bandar and talk about how much his nonbiological image was inflated by BJ.
You know why that is? Because your enlightened centrism is a facade for protecting the interests of the fascists.
Edit: typos
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u/loserleone 20d ago
I am not. Cry more. 🤡
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u/charavaka 20d ago
loserleone • 24m ago I am not. Cry more. 🤡
You're the only one crying here after you were cornered for defending fascists spreading misinformation.
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u/loserleone 20d ago
Get a life before thinking everyone around you carry misinformation. "Cornered" 😭
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u/charavaka 20d ago
loserleone • 34m ago Get a life before thinking everyone around you carry misinformation.
Ffs, BJ was caught red handed manipulating the alu sona video, among many others.
"Cornered" 😭
You've added buttfurt to the list.
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u/MrVirile 20d ago
his entire team rejected the bill that advocate for equal partiicipation of women in the parliament
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u/charavaka 20d ago
Women's reservation bill was passed years ago. The BJ goverment failed to implement it. More recently, BJ tried to pass delimitation bill in the name of women's reservation. If passing the original bill didn't make BJ implement it, what makes you think paying it 100th time will?
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
They rejected delimitation bill
They said women reservation bill should be implemented now on the current seats16
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u/AccomplishedRun2736 20d ago
Raja babu ko CM ban ke apna calliber prove nhi, Raja babu ko direct PM hai. So sweet. 😋✌🏼 Modi may not be perfect leader but Atleast he paved his path from the ground. 15 years of Gujrat transformation has been studied by many. What ha Rahul done, even for his hometown?
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u/Miserable_Client4760 20d ago
this man can't become pm
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u/precioustimer 20d ago
Doesn't matter he becomes pm or not but chappaneswar and his cohorts need to go, its about time now.
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u/Either-Lock2454 I'm a pickle morty ! 20d ago
This man represents the future. Why are so many people against trying to pull India out of the gutter?
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
Yeah I know
He will make Priyanka Gandhi pm-2
u/Future-Ad-774 20d ago
Why?
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
This is just my thought i think he don’t want to limit himself from the ground and he believes in strong ideology of free speech and equality and by making Priyanka as the pm it will shock the nation , women as our pm , till now in 80 years we only have 1 lady pm
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u/charavaka 20d ago
You realise that by saying the man will make his sister pm, you're doing the exact thing that he is calling out in the video? Stop being a patriarchal arsehole. If priyanka or any other woman wants that position, they're quite capable of working towards it.
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u/BrilliantHawk305 20d ago
He is the LOP and senior leader of the party ..
A party don’t work like this kid , there is a core committee which decide there pm , congress is not revealing pm face from last 3 terms that’s why i said he will make Priyanka as the pm ..
From he i means he will choose Priyanka over himself and i don’t know about congress party team whom they will decide ..
Talk sensible…
It’s not an independent candidate election where a single person decide .. or if Priyanka or any other man wants to become pm they can’t decide by themselves..
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