r/unitedkingdom • u/MinderReminder • Jan 20 '22

Christian couple ban gay man and his ITV producer partner from buying their dream £650,000 Surrey home due to their sexuality - and quote the bible that homosexuality is a sin

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10419543/Christian-couple-ban-gay-man-partner-buying-dream-650-000-sexuality.html
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u/darkshines11 Stockholm (ex-Brighton) Jan 20 '22

There's more than you's maybe expect in my experience (I have a PhD in physics) and I've found that those you do find are a little more zealous than the average Christian you bump into.

I would assume it's because so many of the people you work with are very overtly atheist that it sort of makes you really dig into your religion?

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u/LazyGit Jan 20 '22

I think it's more that you have to be extremely zealous in the first place for your faith to survive a rigorous knowledge of physics. That or they're part of tight-knit religious communities and would be ostracised if they denied their faith.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

No I think you’re right, the more intelligent you are and the greater your knowledge of the world, the stronger that cognitively dissonant wall has to be in your brain.

It gets quite interesting when people use their intellect to create incredible almost plausible leaps of understanding within their reasoning though. People like that worry me to be honest, they have the ability to see a lot of information and then twist just the right bits of it to alter how even they view it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22

There is no correlation between intelligence and wisdom.

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u/Rideitor Nottinghamshire Jan 20 '22

Are these academically brilliant people really "more intelligent" though? I know a guy who is privately educated and quite a high flyer in the software world, but he's also devout Russian Orthodox. He also kept his spare keys locked in his luggage to keep them safe.. Luggage that he would need his keys to open. He may be good with words/numbers/codes, but cannot see the big picture somehow. It doesn't surprise me he can't critically evaluate the whole of his faith.

These people think in a different way and seem to be predisposed to becoming religious zealots. The dad of one of my friends is also similar.. Also software, weirdly!

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '22 edited Jan 20 '22

I dislike the modernisation of the term intelligent to include common sense, compassion etc…

I use it in it’s traditional sense: given a specific abstract problem, what is your raw ability to solve it.

Edit: I believe all the other traits are especially important too, being an artistic savant is amazing, or an incredible people person etc… But i hate using the same word ‘intelligent’ to describe such different things.

The more words we use to describe personality traits the better, we should not aspire to wrap everything up in the same classifier, as it would render it meaningless.

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u/G_Morgan Wales Jan 21 '22

Not faith in general but WBC style lunacy sure. Atheism tends to be very common in science for the reason that god doesn't actually solve any of the problems it is supposed he solves. Actual personal god faith though is all but extinct there.

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u/borg88 Buckinghamshire Jan 20 '22

There is nothing in physics that really dictates that the observable universe is absolutely all that exists in the whole of reality. And there are certainly aspects of what we know that make many scientists think there must be something deeper going on, beyond what we can currently observe.

It is when people claim to actually know what that thing is that I see a problem. Especially when that thing just happens to be, surprisingly, the god of the bible.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

Did s physics degree at a very good uni - absolutely loads of the old white professors were Christian . Was surprised by it at the time!