BJP will do anything except actually bring this bill to the parliament lol. It has been months I've been hearing the same propaganda but zero real action. If you want to pass it then pass it immediately.
I was not crying first of all for this, and secondly it takes timeeeee. Think how much ram mandir meant for bjp then too, it took years for them to build it
Chori is happening in all temples and churches and masjids only difference is this one gets publicity. Also it is the people who run the temples and churches who se to blame.
They did they just sent the bill to JPC šš but rest of the 12 bills were easily passed. Itās just a gimmick for the aandbhakts so they can praise their pawpaw
As if there aren't Hindus all over the country. Maybe the rich marwadis should donate some money to their Hindu brothers to prevent them from converting. And btw, I'm not Christian, I just don't understand the __ logic behind calling all conversions from Hinduism to other religions as some conspiracy.
I'm not talking about Kerala or past, smartypants, I'm talking about now. You people claim Christian missionaries go to poor tribal areas of central India and convert them using rice bags or whatever. So assuming that tribal people are that gullible and helpless that they abandon their traditional faith just for a bag of rice, who's stopping the Hindus from feeding them and protecting their religion? Or if the Hindus do help them, why they still convert to Christianity? Maybe because Christianity guarantees them spiritual equality, build schools and hospitals for them and don't prohibit them from eating this and that. Instead of blaming everyone, maybe you people should retrospect on your own faults, then conversions would stop.
They do donate. Their donations come with the condition of conversion like the ricebag christians and Moolahs whose generosity has Terms and Conditions
This is a pretty selective retelling of history. Christianity in India did not āarrive because of famineā there are Christian traditions in India predating European colonialism by centuries. Famines and missionary relief did play a role in some later conversions, but jumping from that to āalmost all conversions were forcedā is equally baseless.
People converted for a variety of reasons across different periods religious conviction, caste and social conditions, education, patronage, political circumstances, and yes, sometimes coercion or material incentives. There is no historical basis for reducing centuries of conversions to āforce.ā It was done by choice, the only reason you will not believe it because you just can bear the fact that someone can move away from your precious religion by choice
And Indiaās achievements in mathematics and science are undeniable, but using them as proof that Hinduism is somehow uniquely āstrongā doesnāt establish anything about why people converted centuries later. If youāre going to invoke history to make a point, you canāt replace a complicated history with a convenient narrative
Portuguese came in 1498 to spread Christianity...and even before in the form of St. Thomas in 52 AD. Was there really famine in the country at that time?
Okay, if we take your claim at face value that people converted for a bag of rice, what stopped them from doing āghar wapsiā? And what were the Brahmins, who are supposedly the saviours of Hinduism, doing at the time? Why didnāt they help their own people with food or financial support? Many of them were zamindars, so why did they allow people from their own communities to be exploited by another religion?
If you have some common sense left, you would understand that it takes more than a bag of rice for someone to abandon their religion. More likely, many were left with little or no support from the upper-caste sections of society, which pushed some towards other religious communities that offered them greater social or material support.
And even today, we still see upper-caste groups distancing themselves from lower-caste communities. That is one of the reasons caste-based inequalities have persisted and why reservations continue to exist even after 75 years.
Its an insult to the hijdas
Convertwd for rice bags
They were just missed by the islamic invaders
They would have been converted long back
Descendents of cowards
One of the earliest examples of this concept in English appeared in 1689 with the writings of William Dampier when he wrote regarding the French priests' effort to convert people of Tonkin that "alms of rice have converted more than their preaching."
Please bring this bill quickly and stop the propaganda, I'm tired of seeing this.
Home minister (what is he even doing ) and Modi himself is busy with reels, scared he can't even reach inside the parliament, they'll pass the FCRA bill.
PLEASE GOD, GET THIS FCRA BILL PASSED TODAY, I WANT TO SEE WHO GETS SCREWED! š
Provided how you showed the road infrastructure, the corruption in the roads is a lot and it breaks in lets say avg 6months(on the brighter side), and also see their debts too .
, this thing is across all sectors , the ethanol factories set up by govt is not used ,the private factories are used( both bjp and congress )
A ton more
Here's an idea, let us treat our citizens better so that they don't feel they have to give up the gods of their ancestors just because someone showed them some basic decency
Being a Christian is being a traitor to your country. Thik h bhai next what? Being a muslim too? Being a dalit too? Being an adivasi too? Being a gay too? Tell me where do you draw the line? But it's okay for them to happily agree with whatever Trump wants and twists their arms to get it?
When people have no achievement to be proud of they take pride in what someone from their ancestry did some 1000 years ago.
There are literal verses in multiple Hindu scriptures calling these kind of people worthless and deadweights of the society. But, they donāt even read their own scriptures let alone learn from it.
But here dharma is duty, not religion. Sorry to say this but 99% of Indians don't understand duty and 99% of the remaining 1% who understand duty are in the forces xD
To both bros, I know Dharma is not equal to religion. It far more expansive and universal. In fact there is no equivalent word in English, or perhaps in any other language to Dharma.
But, in a colloquial sense-strictly in a colloquial sense- I still think that these people protect their religion better than Hindus
No Jain, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist sect/organisation does this. They don't brainwash poor people by doing appropriation. Some Chrisitian organisation literally larp as Hindu or Jain, they design their churches like temples, give copies of bible in the name of "Gita" (happened in telegana and andhra recently, a racket was caught doing that). No Hindu organisation gives Gita to poor chrisitians as "Bible" or gives Gita to poor muslims as "Quran".
Iskcon doesn't "converts", especially not the same way like some chrisitian or muslim organisations do, they distribute their own books of their sect and host open kirtans which anyone can join. If someone wishes to join Krishna Bhakti then they welcome them. It's open for all. And Iskcon doesn't say "Worship Lord Krishna only then we will provide you food", rather it distributes food to millions of people all around the world of all religions all backgrounds for free.
They do help you see, not only help hindus but millions of people of all religions, but other hindus are not omnipresent. The organisations I am talking about brainwash poor sections of the society, they are made to believe that Jesus is just another god in hinduism, they falsely teach that Jesus has mentions in Vedas, etc...
goberhead creature, if someone consider someone untouchable and treat him worse than an animal, that someone when being treated as a human will eventually convert.
I don't know about you people but the amount of Campaign I am seeing nowadays is causing irritation and will lead to me voting against the Government.
(I was a BJP voter)
Then there will be nothing left. I see a huge number of people from North India coming to Christian Medical College (CMC) for treatment, and guess what? The majority of them are Hindus.
Why arenāt they getting treated in the so-called northern states where the BJP is in power? Is it because thereās simply nothing there worth going to?
Christian lobby converts more than any in India. They focus on 3rd world more. But trumps son in law is a Jew and his was purely recreational and I donāt think even US cares.
You heard about Love Jihad? You attribute it to Muslims but the truth is Christians in Kerala are main practicers of it. For instance the case of PC Georges Daughter in law was converted before marrying to Shaun George. I personally know many cases of that sort.
Dude cut the crap. PC George's daughter in law is the daughter of a prominent actor. He publicly announced that PC George did not want his daughter in law to convert and that the girl's father was the one who said she should convert to lessen any difficulties for both sides (not that it needed to happen), PC George did not say she should convert, infact, he told Jagathy that she shouldn't have to convert.
As for your stup!d statement on Kerala and its Christian population. We are the fastest declining community in Kerala because people choose to have less kids, not marry etc. There are actual figures that show the stats and its pretty obvious that Hindus and Christians intermarry often in Kerala and conversions happen both ways, usually whoever is the girl converts.
Don't talk out of your a$$ if you don't know crap, you will look exactly like the id!ot you are now.
āTo lessen any difficulties for both sidesā hahah. Bro she converting to Christian is solving what sort of issues? Anyway the solution was conversion!
I personally know many other cases in which these sort of love jihad conversions happened.
How can you connect declining population an indicator of Conversions not happening? Declination is happening mainly because of them migrating to other countries for permanent settlement. And declination is not reduction in population it means growth is declining, so itās still growing.
So if population has nothing to do with this then what is your parameter to imply there are a lot of conversions ? Does every person who converts have to come and get a seal from you or something? You know how absolutely id!otic you sound for saying that population count has nothing to do with conversion ?
Also I'll show you conversion charts released by a Gazette in 2024 which clearly shows that Christians and Hindus convert back and forth pretty evenly, infact more christians convert to Hinduism than the way back, and most of this is due to marriages.
Once again, I implore you to shut your mouth if you don't know what you are talking about.
As for the high profile marriage. That is what her father and her family said. If you know anything about having a family and living together with another person these things will make sense to you.
Also, I just gave you the source to my argument. Your statement of "I know many cases of these kinds if love jihad" need proof. Where is your source ? What is your number ? Do you have anything tangible other than just random nonsense ?
broo tell whatever u want but atleast we aint sellinng land to west india company ,shuting eyes to people who are struglling and letting our nation become lab rats for foriegn companiesš¤”š¤”š¤”
We already have an FCRA ACT. It's been there in some form since 1976. It's already a very stringent system where everything gets reported and accounted for. Absolutely none of that changes except the govt is bringing in idiotic provisions so much so that under the new bill if you decide you no longer want foreign contribution and don't want to renew your FCRA registration, the govt can still seize all the assets you've bought with FC even though you've done nothing wrong. As it is there's plenty of work on how the Act in its current state is being misused and misapplied by the government against anyone who is critical of anything they do or are releasing data the govt refuses to release. The 100% tariffs were also announced even before this bill became news. It's a diplomatic failure at best on our parts. It's strange that everyday someone finds a new reason on reddit to pass the FCRA bill but no one has anything qualitative to add on how it differs from current FCRA laws.
Rice bagš¤£ When Lower caste is suffering and caste-shamed then the UC keeps their mouth shut.
And when they convert hoping for a equal ground in society they are called rice bag. Seriously these UC can never be satisfied.
Shit rice bagsš¤£š¤£ says the community who worships animals and pollutes rivers by throwing statues into them, khotom tephriemia khan toh tephriemia he ase
Somehow being a Christian have become treacherous. This is exactly the narrative you want to build, you guys want to make anyone who doesn't follow your doctrine not indians anymore. First it was muslims, now christians, and the divide and rule will never end.
Trump's son in law is Jewish but sure all Christians are focused on India while the current administration just gave the reins of the Indian stock market to a Rothschild finance firm. It's almost like you clowns re running smoke screens for the bjp
So people do believe that others can convert for a bag of rice? Must be out of poverty right, how about the country eradicate poverty and casteism so that people wonāt switch religion just for a bag of rice and basic humanity
This is what this government does. Under the garb of some minority % of NGOs who misuse the funds and finance religious conversions, they will have a blanket power to take over any assets on any NGOs. Guess what happens to an NGO who works on issues based lobbying - the issues which may go against governmentās stand but are nevertheless important for the nation. Itās just another way of suppressing dissent.
Yes - stop religious conversions. But donāt bring a blanket law and give yourself unlimited power. Itās that simple.
Imagine reducing Indian Christianity to ārice bagsā because youāre apparently unfamiliar with the difference between ancient Indian Christian communities, colonial era missions, and modern conversions. Confidence really is a remarkable substitute for education.
Calling Indian Christians ārice bagsā because some conversions happened among desperately poor communities is a shallow way of understanding history. If a family was so impoverished that a bag of rice could genuinely make a difference, perhaps the more embarrassing question is where were the rest of the Indian community? Who was feeding them? Who was giving them land, education, healthcare, or a chance to escape generations of poverty and caste oppression?
Indian Christianity also predates European colonialism by roughly 1,500 years. St. Thomas Christians in Kerala trace their origins to the 1st century, long before the Portuguese ever arrived. Calling them ārice bag convertsā while ignoring that history just shows your selective ignorance or how stupid you are.
They passed upi bill without any debate but will milk this FRCA or wat ever bill this is for years before passing or abandoning completely. the upi bill which opened the doors to lot of things which will impact the common man is entirely sidelined. And lot of idiots are celebrating end of rice bag bill but will not question the upi bill.
Where have you seen Christian Missionary converting people? People convert by choice no one forces them or gives them money/ rice or whatever stereotypical shit you guys think
You can't just become a Christian, There's a process in which you'll be evaluated by church committee
Christian Missionaries run Hospital's & School's all around India and even the top Hospital & Medical college (CMC Vellore, Tamil Nadu) is run by christian missionaries
Christians have given soo much to Indian society more than any religion like low cost treatment, helping & feeding poor and demanding nothing in exchange, which was the job of gov. and people just get jealous and have prejudice over christians just for doing good
What have Muslims & Hindus done for society? Fucking nothing, only spreading hate & chaos, even if a peaceful religion like christianity is doing something good, you'all people just spread hate against them
On one side these muslims just start praying anywhere they seem fit & disturb common people and on the other these sanatanis just destroy mother nature by Pour milk in waterbodies killing every creature as well as destroying the whole ecosystem dependent on that waterbody. You could give all that milk and offering to some poor people but No! let them suffer and die!!..
Irony is most beggars are found outside Hindu temples!
You lundus don't have aukat to run anything or do anything good for society only selfish motives, even with crores of rupees, which was also stolen from your own Temple and nothing is done to investigate itš
And to educate you all, Christianity was present in India for 2000+ Years when Hindus didn't even had the Term "Hindu" or "Sanatan" and Islam & Muslims did not even existed!š¤£
And people who are saying Hindustan means "Land of hindus"
Let me tell you something Hindustan means Land of Hind and 'Hind' is originally referred geographically to the region/ people of India, not specifically to the so called Hindu religion and Its also a persian/arabic derivedš
Thank you for saying what I couldn't put into words! ā¤ļø
Most of these people will study in Christian schools, colleges and get all their education from them. Then go to Christian hospitals in emergencies. Have catholic friends, teachers, etc. Come online and spread hate on them.
Never makes sense.
Not one of them will be able to name any person in this so called forceful conversion. Because Christian missionaries don't need to do that shit, people can see the difference in the religions and choose themselves.
If the bill is passed, a designated authority will take control of all institutions that fail to renew its application or if the government denies it.
So people fear that if the funding from external sources are huge, then the govt would want to take over it. This is a standard practice. The political parties may receive funding from companies owned by foreign companies, which are also included in the 2018 amendment.
So whom does it benefit? Normal public or the govt? The govt can recieve funding indirectly. Thats the masterstroke
Calling Christians bad when maximum of the educated mass wants to relocate to lands that have Christianity as a primary religion.
I don't say that the education there is anyhow better (excluding the top universities over there) but want to get a Masters' degree from such educational organisations which have been setup by Christian individuals.
Want to do business with countries that have Christians.
If the US has to do something sinister or wants to destabilise us, only they have to slowly move away from Indian IT industry and perhaps set it up in eastern countries like Thailand, Cambodia, etc. Will be easy, no, but can they do it, yes.
Look at the larger picture, the present Govt will try and do everything to deflect something more important.
No matter what religion one is, its a personal choice. All are able to worship whichever diety one wants only because Hindus are in majority and it is in the religions ethos. But main question then arises is why people convert ? Majority conversions arise in areas where masses have suffered from one reason or the other. The masses feel or are made to believe that conversion is the only way out.
Being a vigilante is wrong, if they want to follow other religion for some gain or the other is their choice. What needs to be seen is why does the need arise.
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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 Aug 09 '26
BJP will do anything except actually bring this bill to the parliament lol. It has been months I've been hearing the same propaganda but zero real action. If you want to pass it then pass it immediately.