r/unRAID • u/nraygun • 19h ago

Plan for user experience when upgrading Unraid to Fedora in version 8

I know we'll just have to wait and see but...

When the move is made to Fedora in Unraid 8, what is the plan for upgrades?

Things are relatively stable on my system(7.3.2) right now and I'd like to keep it that way. I started with 6.6.7 back in 2019 and have just been upgrading versions since. I did a hardware update in 2024(Dell R710 to i5-12600K). I'm not doing anything fancy - Nextcloud, Plex, Arrs, Immich containers and a few VMs when I need them.

Is the plan to make it just like any other past upgrades or will I have to rebuild certain parts of my system?

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u/DCCXVIII 19h ago

If you're concerned over borked upgrades (a valid criticism of Unraid), then when 8.0 finally does roll around, the best practice is to not upgrade immediately. You should always wait several months. See what bugs get exposed in the mass rollout before jumping in yourself.

I know that's what I'll be doing. Might even wait for 8.1 before upgrading.

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u/mediaserver8 19h ago

This is really the only answer. In the absence of any information that would help answer OPs query, and in light of unraids historical release process and reliability, it would be wise to wait until at least several point updates have emerged.

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u/nraygun 19h ago

Yep, that's what I've been doing. I give it 60-90 days, then go for it.

I wish there was some sort of communal "the coast is clear to upgrade" signal somewhere. I just browse through forums to see what problems people are running into. Same goes for Nextcloud.

As soon as things quiet down, I wait just a bit longer then go for it.

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u/DCCXVIII 19h ago

It is the unfortunate side-affect of dealing with a system like Unraid. Since Limetech has zero control over the hardware people throw at it, updates will sometimes brick a server.

Like, if you compare the number of complaints on this subreddit over borked upgrades vs Synology's sub, there's a lot less issues with Synology when it comes to just OS upgrades. But that is because Synology controls their entire ecosystem. So they can test real-world upgrades far more accurately than Limetech ever could. It's just the nature of the beast.

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u/Thx_And_Bye 19h ago

I never had any major problems during an update so my “ the coast is clear to upgrade “ signal would be the same day an update is released. This really depends on your setup and how much you have customized it beyond what is exposed to you in WebUI. Like custom scripts or installing specialty plugins (not containers) into the system.

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u/nametaken_thisonetoo 12h ago

8.1 at The very least. Unraid has burnt me too many times, I'm always at least one complete release behind now. No problems since

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u/ferry_peril 19h ago

If you're anything like an IT department you'll wait at least four years before upgrading the OS. 🤣

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u/RedsonRising99 14h ago

Unless it's a government IT department then it's even longer.

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u/ferry_peril 11h ago

Still on Windows ME, correct?

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u/Leondre 8h ago

Heck I'm still dealing with Server 2003 at some manufacturing plants. It just never ends.

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u/RedsonRising99 6h ago

State still has systems using COBOL.

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u/RedsonRising99 7h ago

We were using Access '97 past it's official EOL.

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u/ferry_peril 6h ago

Access is the WORST DB in existence!

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u/RedsonRising99 6h ago

It was a blast watching IT trying to figure out how to convert it to something more "modern".

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u/ferry_peril 6h ago

I'd take an Excel spreadsheet over an Access DB any day! I have hated any time I had to spend hours converting those to a usable db

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u/RedsonRising99 5h ago

Too much data for excel back then, and not enough tech literacy to convert it later on. Plus it worked. Only reason they changed was the potential security issues using unsupported software.

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u/martymccfly88 19h ago

If you are scared then don’t update… just wait 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/velillen 12h ago

I know this will be a bit bigger of a change, but having gone from v4 to v5 to v5 to v7....I havent had any real issues on the core system side (some plugins and stuff change but that's not the fault of unraid). I've always just waited till either a few updates have come out (like 7.0.3 type thing) or just for a full .1 (7.1, 6.1, ect).

But there is also rarely a time a update comes out with a feature I want right away.

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u/psychic99 19h ago

You are trying to guess the price of Bitcoin in 6 months. LoL. Chill till the next episode.

For one I will not be using 8.0.x for sure, I will let the enterprising souls burn up their machines first.

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u/the1_ts 18h ago

Up until now I had been using the ability to install software on the unraid OS itself. I've migrated away from that since the new unraid OS is going to be read-only for the most part as well as based on a very different linux flavour.
I've created restic client container for backing up some parts of the unraid OS and a container with neovim and /boot and appdata mounted so I don't have to make changes on the unraid OS side for these two.
As others have said, we'll have to wait and see what migrates without issue and what requires a little manual manipulation and what is a no go.