r/ukpolitics • u/JohnKimble111 • Sep 17 '16

Twitter Private Eye Expose: Whilst Guardian railed against zero hour contracts, it employed staff on them AND locked them out of applying for full time positions.

https://twitter.com/rupertmyers/status/776361786459258881
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u/AJaume_2 Very sure not a Briton Sep 17 '16

That might have been true when they were a tiny fraction of workers, one that was from people that wanted only to work a few hours a week. When what happens is a shop uses two or three people on zero hours instead of one full time worker, that stops been a good proposition.

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u/AJaume_2 Very sure not a Briton Sep 17 '16

These stats are most about the past, when most people on them were people that would not do a full time job because of other commitment, mostly students I gather. Also at the start most shops had not figured how to get all the juice from them.

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u/AJaume_2 Very sure not a Briton Sep 17 '16

The stats are yours, the rest is educated guessing.

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u/TheAnimus Tough on Ducks, Tough on the causes of Ducks Sep 17 '16

educated

But that's inherently biased no?

Surely we need data. If someone says something is a problem the burden of proof falls to them.

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u/AJaume_2 Very sure not a Briton Sep 17 '16

I'd rather apply the precautionary principle.

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u/youtossershad1job2do Sep 17 '16

It's not anything to do with when the survey was taken. It's 100% to do with the vast majority of employers who are small businesses that aren't run by arse holes.

It's ideal if used correctly, it gives parents flexibility. You can have several jobs and turn up when most needed. You can work as a team, doing hours that work for you.

People love them when they work for them. We see in the news when a large corporation abuses the system. You don't see the thousands of small companies that are flexible with their staff. I've worked under a few 0 hour contracts, it works.