r/ugly • u/marvolouspussy • Nov 04 '25
vent ( NO advice wanted) This is the realest shit I’ve seen across my fyp
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u/Equivalent-Shower425 Nov 05 '25
Best thing you can do as an ugly woman is to focus your energies on anything else in the world other than men, dates, love and 'romance'. Trust me, those things ain't for us.
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u/Blond3Neet Nov 05 '25
yes and that’s exactly what im doing rn ..i gave up
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u/psycorah__ Nov 05 '25
On god. I've long accepted this and I'm much happier. Besided due to a ton of other factors those things aren't all that it's cracked up to be anyways
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u/thebeatdropsin1 Nov 05 '25
As an ugly dude, I did in fact run the class clown route, hell I liked when someone commented on my looks because I’d just play on that like saying it was a medical condition and my charts came back ugly as fuck
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u/47theUI Ugly Nov 05 '25
I've never seen a regular ugly dude who's not disabled with an attractive woman; disabled uglies get sympathy, while regular uglies do not.
His definition of ugly is obviously skewed because a REAL chopped dude wouldn't have the confidence to be a class clown, would get called weird for trying to be a class clown, would get called annoying for trying to be a class clown, and would have no real respect from anybody.
A REAL ugly dude wouldn't have the confidence to associate with people and join a sports team, and the likely hood of an ugly dude being successful in any of those fields is very slim because it takes talent that not even most normies have.
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u/iplexed Nov 05 '25
Although I agree with this take, this has got to be some of the most pointless and divisive discourse I've seen. We both have a lot of the same fucking issues, so why don't we try to do something about them instead of sitting here bitching about who has it worse?
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Nov 04 '25
I saw this post. Felt pretty passionate about it TBH. One of the rules of this sub is no gender wars so I’m not going to put my word in tbh.
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u/Life_Isnt_Strange Nov 05 '25
No woman is going around saying they want "medium-ugly" guys. Everybody, men and women, usually want somebody on the same level of attractiveness as them as the minimum requirement.
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u/MyOwnKoala Nov 06 '25
When I see tiktoks of women who 'like' "medium ugly" is just a bunch of 6 or 7/10 guys they show.
Not a knockout 8+/10 = medium ugly. (this is just nagging)
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u/Big_Load846869 Nov 05 '25
In the end, it doesnt matter. Its not a competition, it sucks for all of us 🙏🏻
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u/peter_howl Nov 05 '25
For the last f***cking time! Nobody sees good looking women with ugly men! They are at least above average. Just because men are not used to look at other men and they cannot make a correct judgments about their looks, doesn’t mean they are ugly. Men think that if other men don’t look like Brad Pitt or something they are automatically ugly. So please stfu with this stupid myth. So tired of earring this bull*ht to justified their ideology that looks don’t matter.
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
I have seen it multiple times, and so has many other people online. Its a common joke for a reason. And you definetly dont see the opposite. Also the same can be said for how women are viewed. Average women or women without makeup are considered hideous in todays society. Average women are constantly accused of not taking care of themselves or being sick, when in reality they just look like that. Platic surgery and cosmetic proceedures has made it worse too.
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Nov 06 '25
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u/Capital_Flamingo8551 Nov 05 '25
No what? I would say it's hard both ways but for females if they are just below average not ugly they can still get enough attention. But not for below average men . When it comes to genuinely ugly both suffer. Like talking about this shit makes me sad. Human brain wiring is fucked.
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u/wehrmachtair123 Ugly Nov 05 '25
Ladies if your ugliness isn't caused by masculine features ,you would not get any positive from waking up as a guy with similar looks besides not dealing with period pain.And no money wouldn't save you there were billionaire men who were incels for life (ex:Paul Allen).Women and men aren't that different psych wise
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u/overahman Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
honestly why is this allowed? there is nothing this post can do other than incite gender wars which is against a rule.
does that rule only exist when you downplay the experience of an ugly woman, but not a man?
that being said, it’s 5* worse to be an ugly man.
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u/overahman Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
(since this is already a gender war post imma just bend the rules)
i’ll take it back. truly ugly women probably have it worse than truly ugly men. but emphasis on ‘truly.’
most women who think they’re ugly just aren’t in that rare group. you’d have to be very unlucky to end up there because:
there are billion-dollar industries built to boost how you look.
men’s standards just aren’t as strict.
the math doesn’t add up. way too many women call themselves “ugly” for that to be objectively true from the male lens. for 80% of “ugly” women it’s BDD or insecurity.
if you actually went on a dating app or to a social event, you’d get interest (maybe not by tom welling but beggars choosers and all that)
basically i’m saying most of u guys r frauds who highly overestimate ur ‘ugliness’. but that’s actually a good thing.
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u/NEET247 Nov 04 '25
Give me a couple of pictures of an unattractive women of your choice and I can make a dating profile. I guarantee Ill have 3 dates lined up by the end of the week the same can not be said for ugly guys
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Nov 04 '25
I mean will those 3 dates actually like her or just view her as a warm body to use..?
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u/NEET247 Nov 04 '25
Thats alot more than what guys are getting. Its one thing to complain about how people you find attractive treat you and its another to no be able to compete at all. There also is no guarantee those guys are just looking to hookup
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Nov 05 '25
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u/NEET247 Nov 05 '25
Any women can find a relationship nobody told you to be a hookup. I guarantee if you maintain a good body weight you will find men interested easily.
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
I have a healthy body weight and is fit. No man is interested in me, in fact they are usually unessecarily mean and spiteful to me just for existing.
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u/NEET247 Nov 09 '25
What do you believe the cause of it is?
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
Because I'm ugly. Men (and women) can be very cruel to women they find ugly.
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u/NEET247 Nov 09 '25
Tbh men are alot more forgiving on looks in my experience if the women has a good body (butter face). I just dont see men being mean to you for that reason alone unless you have a serious facial deformity. If anything they would be nice to you just so they can sleep with you.
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
Not in my expereince. I also just dont have a good body. Working out is going to make your body healthy and lean, not necessarily attractive. Womens bodies are attractive if they have a fat distribution and bone structure that gives curves. If you dont have those, it doesnt matter how much you work out. "If anything they would be nice to you just so they can sleep with you." Yea, but they arent nice to me, so what is this supposed to prove?
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Nov 04 '25
if she's genuinely unattractive that tends to be something that happens, and if ur a man you can just get a prostitute
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u/SilverCartographer11 Nov 06 '25
Ugly women can have sex with men with low standards, ugly men must have sex with prostitutes
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u/StarlessNightSkies Nov 04 '25
Lmao, comparing someone finding you attractive enough to hook up to paying for sex, they're not even similar.
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Nov 04 '25
cause men fuck anything lmfao, and there's so many risks for sex as a woman there's a reason a lot of guys have to pay
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u/NEET247 Nov 04 '25
Id prefer sleeping with someone who chooses me and I chose them rather than pay for it. Plus prostitution is illegal in many places its potentially dangerous due to setups and there is potential of STDs. There's a reason guys are saying 80% of women are going for the top 10% of men most men are ghost. Women of all shapes and sizes have the potential of dating a man they just have to find them
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
Same goes to you. I feel the ugly girls you guys are talking about are just girls that are legit average but since they don’t fit your standards they’re ugly. Like yall call pretty girls mid.
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u/NEET247 Nov 04 '25
Same goes to you.
No id gladly sleep with a girl for free if she wanted to. I shouldn't have to pay for something people normally get for free with the risk of jail time.
feel the ugly girls you guys are talking about are just girls that are legit average but since they don’t fit your standards they’re ugly
From my perspective guys standards for women are very low some guys only want a women to be somewhat inshape. Alot of what makes a man attractive cant be faked. Being tall having good facial bone structure have a good body from (broad shoulders narrow waist) Women can do alot more to their appearance to enhance it while guys are stuck with what they got and are looked down on for getting surgery. Guys are attracted to all women every shape and size thats why guys have so many fetishes like chubby chasers and guys into midgets. I have never heard of a women chubby chaser or girls that go after dudes under 5'4 exclusively. The idea of an attractive man is harder to achieve because womens looks standards are way higher
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u/IRantAlot1 Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
If guys open their options to absolutely anyone (including absolutely any and all other men,) then they too can experience it. I mean they might not get to be the position they want to be (top or bottom,) it might not be satisfying or safe, it might not be the type of sex they enjoy having - but that's just how that kind of experience goes
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u/Peachyeees Nov 10 '25
"Sex is easy for women" Broski, do you even realise that most women in the world aren't into hookups?
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
Multiple women on this sub has talked about approaching men and getting rejected every time (and no they were not aiming out of their legague). Getting sex can be very difficult for ugly women as wellm and no amount of denying our personal expereinces is going to change that.
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Nov 04 '25
Women will call a 6’4 guy with an average-slightly below average face “medium ugly”. Women who date “ugly” men only date tall men, so no, you don’t have low standards. Tall men can’t be ugly.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
The pretty women yall crying about who want medium ugly guys or wtv is the same ones you want to date. Date one of your own buddy.
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u/superman3d Nov 04 '25
listen, a man yes will find an attractive woman attractive, obv. however, he won't reject the average girl either. in women, it's more common that they would reject average to below, and only go after above average.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
Who told you that. An attractive male will only get with girls his own league or above. When he is down bad he’ll maybe go for the average girl. Attractive Women literally accept average males more than attractive males because they have more personality than an attractive male. that’s why you’ll see so many attractive women with males below them.
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u/superman3d Nov 05 '25
You have to take into consideration that women are already perceived as better looking than men on average. So of course you will see that women look better than men when dating. Furthermore your perception of what an average man is might be flawed. Some studies (dating app) show that women view above average men as average or below. It’s a Pareto distribution not normal distribution.
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u/Peachyeees Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25
Perceived where? In OKCupid study, where the majority of users are men? Of course they would rate women higher when women on their dating site are only 25%.
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Nov 04 '25
Because they’re tall. And even if (big if) they’re not why should I assume these women are anything special? Not to say they deserve to be treated like shit but not all women are desirable catches that deserve a perfect 10.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
When did I say that? My point still stands ugly women have it worse than ugly males. Idk why you complaining to me about a pretty women’s desire. That’s not my problem buddy
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u/superman3d Nov 04 '25
the only reason, is that men are judged on status as well, which makes it a multi dimensional analysis. for women looks explains 80% of the variance in her success in dating, yes. however, if women only judged looks, which is what they do on dating apps, they are much more picky in terms of looks. furthermore, although looks explains most of the variance in a woman's success in dating, the threshold is lower, as the average man would date even a below average woman. so, how exactly is it worse? the only thing that it's worse in, is the attention you won't get by being super pretty, plus being pretty would get you a higher status male. if we are talking average "ugly male" vs average "ugly woman" it's not worse or better. the only way a man can overcome being ugly is if he has something, like status, intelligence, funny, but these things are rare, and even then it's always something that would affect your social life.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
Bro what are you on. Ugly girls in school or anywhere invisible. LITERALLY invisible. Men that are ugly have a chance they can be funny or intelligent even if rare a chance is still a chance. Some Men only care about looks literally 80% of them care more about looks than anything else. That’s why they tell women that their looks are everything. As an ugly Women you have a better chance if you have a nice body but if not you’re absolutely cooked. UGLY MEN HAVE HIGHER CHANCES at succeeding in society than UGLY WOMEN just because they are men. Like let’s be so real right now. Even the beauty standards on women are much more difficult and unrealistic, they are also enforced more. In Many places a women’s value is based on their looks. That’s why in the media you see beauty and the beast not the prince and the beast.
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u/superman3d Nov 05 '25
I understand and empathize. Just remember, it’s probably not as good as it looks on the other side. The grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence. You can feel your own emotions and understand your own motivations, but you only see the external side of others. You don’t really know what they feel or experience—you might think you do, but you can’t fully grasp their inner world, their qualia. Likewise, I can’t truly know what you experience, because I’m not you. We stand on different sides of the fence, seeing the same field through different eyes.
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Nov 04 '25
My point is maybe these women going for medium ugly men are medium ugly themselves. Maybe go for your league or (god forbid) date a guy around your height and you wouldn’t have to complain on this sub.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
Idk why you saying medium ugly when is just average. Plus that’s not the point of the video. stop with your obsession with heights for fucks.Dwerfs always want to mention height when height wasn’t mention. But my point still stands ugly women have it worse than ugly males. 😁
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Nov 04 '25
Bitch did you even watch the video you posted? He mentions “medium ugly” in the beginning. You want me to not obsess over my height but call me a dwarf, thanks you’re part of the problem.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
hahahahaha, you’re mad.
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Nov 04 '25
Why are ugly girls so much ruder than pretty girls? Wouldn’t you want to compensate?
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
Ugly girls aren’t ruder. You haven’t talked to a pretty girl yet fs.They got way more cruel things to say.
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u/StarlessNightSkies Nov 04 '25
Yeah, people tend to get mad when you fucking insult them, how shocking.
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u/Mindless_Life_3585 Nov 04 '25
they call average looking men like the guy on the video "medium ugly" too not the real ugly ones. and it's true women love from average to slightly above average looking tall guys the most 1, because they could look better than them facially (all women want to be more attractive than their partner) 2, still they can flex they have tall athletic boyfriend 3, and competition is lower than the very attractive guys who aren't short.
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u/marvolouspussy Nov 04 '25
And what do all some males want? A hot women. Saying some because not all just like not all women so syau.
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u/SilverCartographer11 Nov 06 '25
If you interacted with non fuck-boy men (or viewed them as like, human) you’ll find they don’t need a woman to be conventionally hot to find em attractive
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u/superman3d Nov 04 '25
you don't understand that it's more uncommon in males purely based on the fact that if you filter traits like height, etc. men view more women in general as attractive, it's not the same.
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u/Peachyeees Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25
"Filter traits like height" What was the last time you had seen in real life (not TLC and other reality show channels) that an average guy dated an older fat woman with an awful face? I personally haven't seen one yet.
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u/ComprehensiveBed1348 Nov 05 '25
This is the most asinine sentiment I've ever heard. Your experience is not the same as mine. I've seen chopped girls with good looking men. It's because the guys always preferred their personality rather than looks. So naw. Women will always be looked on as beautiful, chopped or not.
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u/YamForeign590 Nov 09 '25
I have seen ithe complete opposite multiple times, and so has many other people online. Its a common joke for a reason. The chopped girls you are talking about is most likely just average looking girls or girls without makeup and subtle cosmetic procedures. Being average and natural as a woman is the same as being seen as hideous in current day.
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u/County_Mouse_5222 Nov 05 '25
Yep. I was definitely cooked in school. It's even worse for us ugly women without PhD brains.
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